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Posted by R32_3671 on Mon Nov 21 10:08:26 2011 I grabbed these 2 this morning![]() ![]() |
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Posted by trav-one on Mon Nov 21 10:09:57 2011, in response to (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by R32_3671 on Mon Nov 21 10:08:26 2011. Nice catch!!! |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Mon Nov 21 10:39:56 2011, in response to (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by R32_3671 on Mon Nov 21 10:08:26 2011. Alright, nice man! |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Nov 21 10:46:10 2011, in response to (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by R32_3671 on Mon Nov 21 10:08:26 2011. Interesting and nice catch.LIB continues their tradition of borrowing buses from other operators to make service. Years back, borrowed fishbowls, new look flxibles and even RTS's made their way over from NYCTA/MaBSTOA. Of course, not to forget the MCI over the road buses as of late. Some were re striped, some were not. But still, a golden opportunity for some interesting photos. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by mac5689 on Mon Nov 21 11:27:09 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Nov 21 10:46:10 2011. I thought the MCI's were for LIRR service only, not for LIB to make service. |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Mon Nov 21 11:35:52 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by mac5689 on Mon Nov 21 11:27:09 2011. No one said they were "to make service." They were for LIRR service only. |
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Posted by PATHman on Mon Nov 21 11:45:07 2011, in response to (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by R32_3671 on Mon Nov 21 10:08:26 2011. Awesome! |
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Posted by mac5689 on Mon Nov 21 13:30:03 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by Joe Saitta on Mon Nov 21 11:35:52 2011. I knew that Mr. Saitta, it was just that Newkirk said LIB continues their tradition of borrowing buses from other operators to make service........Of course, not to forget the MCI over the road buses as of lateWhich to someone not quite smart enough, or a newbie, would make it sound like they weren't only used for LIRR service. Hopfully that doesn't sound to mean, I didn't notice it was you when I first read your reply. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Nov 21 14:12:37 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by mac5689 on Mon Nov 21 13:30:03 2011. Even though not used for local service, the MCI's were still stored and serviced at LIB. Some buses that I saw were relettered MTA Long Island Bus.Bill Nerwkirk |
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Posted by mac5689 on Mon Nov 21 15:21:23 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Nov 21 14:12:37 2011. I know that.The way you worded it with adding the MCI's to a list of buses borrowed for Local Service, could make it seem to people who wouldn't know any better, that the MCI's were used for Local Service. As for the re lettering of those MCI's, that was one thing I didn't understand, though the MTA probably had some reason for doing that. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Nov 21 16:53:08 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by mac5689 on Mon Nov 21 15:21:23 2011. As for the re lettering of those MCI's, that was one thing I didn't understand, though the MTA probably had some reason for doing that.Sorry for the confusion in my post. Maybe since those MCI's were based and serviced at LIB that they should identify with that MTA company. On a side note, when MSBA borrowed old NYCTA or MaBSTOA GM Fishbowls and new look Flxibles, they retained their blue stripes and were not rebranded MSBA. Fishbowls from the #6XXX series were ones I remembered. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by mac5689 on Mon Nov 21 17:00:26 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Nov 21 16:53:08 2011. Thats ok, although I have to admit that I was actually wondering in LIB had used the MCI's in Local service LOL.Yeah, the relettering prob had something to do with identifying what MTA company. Maybe it was so if any passengers had something to complain about they would figure to contact LIB instead of MTA Bus or LIRR. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Nov 21 17:01:43 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Nov 21 16:53:08 2011. On a side note, when MSBA borrowed old NYCTA or MaBSTOA GM Fishbowls and new look Flxibles, they retained their blue stripes and were not rebranded MSBA. Fishbowls from the #6XXX series were ones I remembered.Maybe some were borrowed and returned, but 55 Flxibles (15 4xxx and 50 7xxx) and 17 Fishbowls (10 1xxx and 7 6xxx) were repainted and renumbered by MSBA. |
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Posted by mac5689 on Mon Nov 21 17:06:33 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Nov 21 17:01:43 2011. Maybe some were borrowed and returned, but 55 Flxibles (15 4xxx and 50 7xxx) and 17 Fishbowls (10 1xxx and 7 6xxx) were repainted and renumbered by MSBA.I was just going to mention about seeing photos of buses that were from NYCTA and MaBSTOA that had been painted in LIB's (MSBA) scheme. Though now I do recall seeing a few photos of a bus with the MTA Scheme. |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Mon Nov 21 17:26:58 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Nov 21 16:53:08 2011. No completely true. For quick borrowing, perhaps, but for long-term operation, renumbering and repainting, or rather adding stripes, did occur. The best and most recent example were the New Look Flxibles (they were hard steering, though!) that were renumbered in the 300-series. Mr. Kim Kimball had just arrived as General Manager and immediately borrowed them to alleviate a shortage of buses. I remember those buses well, having driven many of them. Can't pinpoint the exact year at the moment, but it was between 1985 and 1990. In my early days at MSBA, we had a great variety of buses. Today - ugh! |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Nov 21 17:30:07 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by mac5689 on Mon Nov 21 17:00:26 2011. I have to admit that I was actually wondering in LIB had used the MCI's in Local service LOL.MCI's on the N-80 LOL ! Twenty years ago, I leased a 1991 Chevy S-10 Blazer at Robert Chevrolet in Hicksville. Since I wasn't trading in my old car, I had to go there by bus, taking the N-19 and transferring to the N-80 at Sunrise Mall. Believe it or not guess what rolls into the bus stop at Sunrise Mall ? A GM Suburban Fishbowl #100 series, with the blue strip last used by NYCTA !! Yes, in service and I got on a found a seat. En route, a twenty something guy gets on and looks at the luggage racks as mutters "where did this bus come from, Greyhound ?" True story. I wish I had my camera with me. : ( Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Nov 21 17:38:05 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by mac5689 on Mon Nov 21 17:06:33 2011. I was just going to mention about seeing photos of buses that were from NYCTA and MaBSTOA that had been painted in LIB's (MSBA) schemeAt one time, you could go to Zahn's depot in a property's adjacent lot, you could see these buses through the chain link fence. MSBA covered up the fence so you can no longer see through. Once I dropped by on a weekend and saw some NYCTA or MaBSTOA Flxibles awaiting re branding. The re branding consisted of a can of orange paint and a roll of masking tape that sat on a 4 ft step ladder. That's all, part of the TA blue stripe was used. Not making this up ! Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Nov 21 17:44:05 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by Joe Saitta on Mon Nov 21 17:26:58 2011. No completely true. For quick borrowing, perhaps, but for long-term operation, renumbering and repainting, or rather adding stripes, did occur.Then how about those #6XXX series Fishbowls I saw and photographed in service ? I don't think they were repainted. I know the GM Blitzs were. The best and most recent example were the New Look Flxibles (they were hard steering, though!) that were renumbered in the 300-series. Mr. Kim Kimball had just arrived as General Manager and immediately borrowed them to alleviate a shortage of buses. I remember those buses well, having driven many of them. Can't pinpoint the exact year at the moment, but it was between 1985 and 1990. In my early days at MSBA, we had a great variety of buses. Today - ugh! Yep, I remember those Flxibles renumbered into the #3XX series. IIRC some had standee windows, some didn't. No roll signs of course. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by mac5689 on Mon Nov 21 17:55:37 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Nov 21 17:30:07 2011. I have no memory of seeing on a GM Fishbowl, but since CBS Lines had some and my mom has said that I've ridden buses since I was a baby (on CBS Lines routes) I've probably ridden on one at one time. |
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Posted by mac5689 on Mon Nov 21 17:58:17 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Nov 21 17:38:05 2011. I guess masking tap was the easiest was to get a straight line LOL. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 21 18:54:36 2011, in response to (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by R32_3671 on Mon Nov 21 10:08:26 2011. Whose bus barn was College Point before MTA Bus Company ?Who did that bus belong to ? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Nov 21 18:58:59 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 21 18:54:36 2011. Queens Surface. |
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Posted by B53RICH on Mon Nov 21 19:00:03 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Nov 21 10:46:10 2011. During the early 90's, I recall seeing some new look NYCTA Flxibles and one GM new look LI Bus had borrowed. The numbers remained the same and I don't even think any MSBA restriping was done. I had seen 9032,9052,9054,9055,7596 and 6149.Unfortunately, this will probably the last time this exchange will ever happen. |
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Posted by orionviidieselbus on Mon Nov 21 20:54:29 2011, in response to (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by R32_3671 on Mon Nov 21 10:08:26 2011. Nice! |
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Posted by R40SlantontheB on Mon Nov 21 22:15:17 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Nov 21 17:44:05 2011. 9991 on the N22! |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Nov 22 07:30:34 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Nov 21 17:44:05 2011. Then how about those #6XXX series Fishbowls I saw and photographed in service ? I don't think they were repainted. I know the GM Blitzs were.Either they were put into service before repainting and renumbering, or some were simply borrowed and returned. Here's MaBSTOA 6582 at MSBA: ![]() Most of the Blitzes had half of the blue stripe covered over in orangem but not all. The "LI BUS" markings were just stenciled on. ![]() |
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Posted by mac5689 on Tue Nov 22 07:36:51 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Nov 22 07:30:34 2011. I take it that the bottom photo was taken in or around 1995, since the Flex behind the GM Blitz has MSBA on it and the Blitz has LI Bus on it and 1995 is when its said that they started using LI Bus instead of MSBA? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Nov 22 07:38:30 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by mac5689 on Tue Nov 22 07:36:51 2011. I take it that the bottom photo was taken in or around 1995June 1995 by r17-6599 |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Nov 22 08:21:32 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Nov 22 07:30:34 2011. I have a shot of #6149 in service with white and blue stripe on N-80. No blue roof.Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Nov 22 08:48:31 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Nov 22 08:21:32 2011. I have a shot of #6149 in service with white and blue stripe on N-80. No blue roof.OK; there were some that were just loaners and not renumbered (the 9000 Flxibles, too). |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Nov 22 08:54:51 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Nov 22 07:30:34 2011. Nice photos. I'm sure I've driven those buses. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Nov 22 08:55:54 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Nov 22 08:54:51 2011. Nice photos.Not mine; Doug Grotjahn and Joe Caronetti, respectively. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 22 09:11:59 2011, in response to Re: (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Nov 22 08:55:54 2011. :) |
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Posted by Hart Bus on Tue Nov 22 11:46:35 2011, in response to (PHOTOS) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by R32_3671 on Mon Nov 21 10:08:26 2011. I saw 716 e/b on the N79 yesterday at Woodbury and Jericho. |
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Posted by orionviidieselbus on Tue Nov 22 21:26:22 2011, in response to (VIDEO) MTA Bus Orion V's in LIB service, posted by R40SlantontheB on Mon Nov 21 22:15:17 2011. Nice! |
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