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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Sep 6 05:00:40 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Sep 6 00:15:06 2009. I would think more wear and tear up here with all the traffic. |
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Posted by ctrabs74 on Sun Sep 6 07:24:59 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by rionOne on Sat Sep 5 11:47:27 2009. I did get to ride 5326 over the Ben Franklin Bridge on the 406 yesterday morning. I was, to say the least, very impressed (though they still have a long way to go to surpass SEPTA's 8000-series New Flyers as my favorite buses). That bus has some good speed to it (and, yes, it's a C9 engine; I could tell right away from my past experiences riding NJT's Neoplan artics). The seats were a little better than the Metro B's, and it looked, from what I saw, that there was no "platform" to the NABIs compared with the Flxs.On the flip side, I had 3149 heading back over the bridge on the 412 (yes, the 412; when's the last time a Flx showed up on that route?). At least I got what will probably be my last Flx Metro B ride. |
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Posted by ctrabs74 on Sun Sep 6 07:35:07 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sat Sep 5 23:52:25 2009. Well, as of FY 2008, Comly needed 23 buses to make the scheduled on the 14. Considering that service has increased on the 14 since the time the most recent cost recovery data was available (source of that information is the FY 2010 Annual Service Plan), the 30 artics (factoring in buses out of service for repairs) may not be enough to fill all of the trips on the 14.Getting back on topic (ie. NJT's NABIs - and high floors in general), the new suburban buses seat 42, while the SEPTA NABI's seat 44. I do agree with the above post in that the most notable high floor buses of recent years - the Gillig Phantom and the Orion V - have both been discontinued within the past year or two. The only other high floors on the market, such as it is, are not even worth mentioning (ie. Blue Bird, Thomas, etc). |
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Posted by ctrabs74 on Sun Sep 6 07:42:36 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Sep 6 04:59:49 2009. Academy had other RTS buses that were built by GM, some of which, as I recall, were ex-NYC Transit buses. Some of those RTS buses saw service on the #22 when it was an IBOA route, others, IIRC, saw service at EWR during the AirLink construction.One of the GM RTS buses that was owned by Academy, I believe, was an ex-DART First State RTS that ended up getting sold third-hand to Krap(f)s Coaches for use on the Coatesville-West Chester route. |
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Posted by rionOne on Sun Sep 6 09:48:41 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by ctrabs74 on Sun Sep 6 07:42:36 2009. I know which RTS you are referring to, no that wasn't Academy's at any point.Academy's first RTS was from the Detroit DOT  Then they had this one which is ex-DDOT/SEMTA  Followed by this jewel, which was Academy's first bus purchased from the NYCTA  Later on down the line, Academy purchased a bunch RTS's from the NYCTA, and put them in line service in 1999 when Academy took over the Red Apple New York-Hoboken bus line. These buses even saw occasional 22 Hillside Line service.    Academy also had 35-foot buses that came from Hertz or other small properties that were used Primarily in Airport Service until the GMC RTS's that were purchased from New York were pushed off the 22 Hillside and New York-Hoboken lines into Airport Service   The also had a 7 or 8 narrow-bodied GMC RTSs that came from a property in Texas, all but 1 was used in a Continental Express Airport contract, that 1 (Bus #67) could be seen operating the 22 Hillside or the NY-HOB Line.  Sorry for the pic quality, some of these are old prints or digitals when I was still trying to figure shit out, lol! Regards, Trevor Logan, Jr. www.ttmg.org |
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Posted by neolife07 on Sun Sep 6 10:03:43 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by TC40102A#9167 on Sat Sep 5 12:54:09 2009. Why would they tweaked the DDEC to allow for such slower acceleration? I think it's more of a poor maintenance issue...Filters etc not being replaced at the time they should.... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 6 10:16:11 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by rionOne on Sun Sep 6 09:48:41 2009. i think the 2nd picture shows a jewel of a bus |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Sun Sep 6 11:58:32 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Sep 6 00:19:04 2009. I believe the 22 is contracted to Academy. |
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Posted by Ken S. on Sun Sep 6 12:04:04 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Pablo M 201 on Sun Sep 6 11:58:32 2009. The 22 used to be ran by Academy directly as was the 23 and part of the 126. Either Academy was in the red big time on those routes or parts for the GMs were becoming scarce enough for Academy to turn them over to NJT. |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Sun Sep 6 12:04:38 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Sep 6 00:19:23 2009. Ahh, 1215, ex Red & Tan in Hudson County. I remember riding that bus almost everyday on the 16 with the same driver. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Sep 6 12:52:22 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Pablo M 201 on Sun Sep 6 12:04:38 2009. Oh wow. How many R&T routes are left? Is the 16 still there? |
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Posted by Ken S. on Sun Sep 6 12:56:36 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Sep 6 12:52:22 2009. Just the 4 and 10 are left. The 99S was merged with the 10. The 3 and 16are gone. The 99 became NJT's 6. The MTA illegally put the 144 out of business. The 231 was replaced by the 10 and NJT 981. |
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Posted by ctrabs74 on Sun Sep 6 13:02:01 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by rionOne on Sun Sep 6 09:48:41 2009. I thought it was Academy because the number that I saw in that particular bus (I think it was 151) was in a font used by Academy. |
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Posted by rionOne on Sun Sep 6 13:02:37 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Ken S. on Sun Sep 6 12:56:36 2009. The MTA did not illegally put the 144 out of business.The 144 was dead the minute Red & Tan did away with it. TransportAzumah operates/operated (don't know if he still does) its varient of the line. The MTA came in with the S89 WAY after Red & Tan did away with the 144 Line. And the buses that operate the S89, operate with proper USDOT numbers. Nothing illegal about it. If that was the case then NJT would be ALL illegal while operating into New York City, Orange County NY and Philadelphia, PA. -Trevor |
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Posted by rionOne on Sun Sep 6 13:03:38 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by ctrabs74 on Sun Sep 6 13:02:01 2009. Understandable, that font used by Academy has pop'd up in other places too though.-Trevor |
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Posted by Ken S. on Sun Sep 6 13:04:04 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by rionOne on Sun Sep 6 13:02:37 2009. He stopped running it after the S89 began operations. |
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Posted by Ken S. on Sun Sep 6 13:05:47 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by rionOne on Sun Sep 6 13:03:38 2009. PABCO has 2 buses with that font on them. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Sep 6 13:42:01 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Ken S. on Sun Sep 6 13:04:04 2009. ! I'm sorry to learn that happened. Oh well, I guess.. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Sun Sep 6 13:44:20 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by rionOne on Sun Sep 6 13:02:37 2009. You need more than USDOT numbers to operate interstate. Yes, even the MTA needs more than that.NJT gets its buses inspected every year (ALL of them) by NJDOT. USDOT ignores MTA buses because "they do not have the resources" to inspect those buses. When I spoke to NYSDOT about it, "no one wants to lose their job" stopping an MTA bus. |
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Posted by QM18Express on Sun Sep 6 14:18:33 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by JAzumah on Sun Sep 6 13:44:20 2009. I have seen other buses and trucks operating with just USDOT only numbers! |
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Posted by JohnnyMints on Sun Sep 6 15:14:20 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Ken S. on Sun Sep 6 12:04:04 2009. Academy never had anything to do with the 126. They ran their own Hoboken-Port Authority route that competed with the 126. |
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Posted by JohnnyMints on Sun Sep 6 15:18:30 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by rionOne on Sun Sep 6 09:48:41 2009. Oh yeah, I remember those buses! I used to try to chase them down all the time. Lafayette and Greenville also bought a couple ex-NYCDOT buses too, which I rode on the 16 and 5/6. |
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Posted by tbev on Sun Sep 6 15:26:42 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Sep 6 00:15:06 2009. Too bad you didnt ride this one. |
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Posted by mci guy on Sun Sep 6 15:56:26 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by JohnnyMints on Sun Sep 6 15:18:30 2009. Academy bought some 1982 1700 hard seaters. saw some at yukon in the sunset of their lives. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Sun Sep 6 15:59:46 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by QM18Express on Sun Sep 6 14:18:33 2009. §390.21 Marking of CMVs.[Change Notice] [New Text] Editor''s Note: Paragraph 390.21(a) below is effective until June 17, 2009. (a) General. Every self-propelled CMV, as defined in §390.5, subject to subchapter B of this chapter must be marked as specified in paragraphs (b), (c), and (d) of this section. [Change Notice] [New Text] (b) Nature of marking. The marking must display the following information: (b)(1) The legal name or a single trade name of the motor carrier operating the self-propelled CMV, as listed on the motor carrier identification report (Form MCS-150) and submitted in accordance with §390.19. Editor''s Note: Paragraph 390.21(b)(2) below is effective until June 17, 2009. (2) The motor carrier identification number issued by the FMCSA, preceded by the letters “USDOT”. LINK New York City Transit is in violation of this. New York City Bus is not an operating entity. I know someone that was fined for this. The ticket was $200 for one violation. §396.17 Periodic inspection. [Change Notice] [New Text] (a) Every commercial motor vehicle shall be inspected as required by this section. The inspection shall include, at a minimum, the parts and accessories set forth in Appendix G of this subchapter. EDITOR''S NOTE: Appendix G is located at the back of this pocketbook. EDITOR''S NOTE: Appendix G is located at the back of this handbook. NOTE: The term commercial motor vehicle includes each vehicle in a combination vehicle. For example, for a tractor semitrailer, fulltrailer combination, the tractor, semitrailer, and the fulltrailer (including the converter dolly if so equipped) shall each be inspected. (b) Except as provided in §396.23, a motor carrier shall inspect or cause to be inspected all motor vehicles subject to its control. (c) A motor carrier shall not use a commercial motor vehicle unless each component identified in Appendix G has passed an inspection in accordance with the terms of this section at least once during the preceding 12 months and documentation of such inspection is on the vehicle. The documentation may be: (1) The inspection report prepared in accordance with paragraph 396.21(a), or (2) Other forms of documentation, based on the inspection report (e.g., sticker or decal), which contains the following information: (i) The date of inspection; (ii) Name and address of the motor carrier or other entity where the inspection report is maintained; (iii) Information uniquely identifying the vehicle inspected if not clearly marked on the motor vehicle; and (iv) A certification that the vehicle has passed an inspection in accordance with §396.17. (d) A motor carrier may perform the required annual inspection for vehicles under the carrier’s control which are not subject to an inspection under §396.23(b)(1). (e) In lieu of the self inspection provided for in paragraph (d) of this section, a motor carrier may choose to have a commercial garage, fleet leasing company, truck stop, or other similar commercial business perform the inspection as its agent, provided that business operates and maintains facilities appropriate for commercial vehicle inspections and it employs qualified inspectors, as required by §396.19. (f) Vehicles passing roadside or periodic inspections performed under the auspices of any State government or equivalent jurisdiction or the FMCSA, meeting the minimum standards contained in Appendix G of this subchapter, will be considered to have met the requirements of an annual inspection for a period of 12 months commencing from the last day of the month in which the inspection was performed, except as provided in §396.23(b)(1). (g) It shall be the responsibility of the motor carrier to ensure that all parts and accessories not meeting the minimum standards set forth in Appendix G to this subchapter are repaired promptly. (h) Failure to perform properly the annual inspection set forth in this section shall cause the motor carrier to be subject to the penalty provisions provided by 49 U.S.C.521(b). LINK This is a $500-$1,000 fine per violation. Again, New York City Transit is in violation of this. A bus company just received an $80,000 fine for not inspecting buses, not having full insurance, AND using drivers after they tested positive for drugs. The fine is fair, but USDOT likes to go after little guys struggling to eat. It was a big deal when the guy in California flipped his bus, but we have someone running over 200 interstate trips a day that has no external oversight on their buses. Talk about cute. |
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Posted by mci guy on Sun Sep 6 16:20:04 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Pablo M 201 on Sun Sep 6 12:04:38 2009. wow when did it snow. seems too warm. |
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Posted by JohnnyMints on Sun Sep 6 17:44:39 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by mci guy on Sun Sep 6 16:20:04 2009. My guess would be sometime during the winter months... |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Sep 6 20:09:14 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by tbev on Sun Sep 6 15:26:42 2009. ! That's it, I need to visit No. Jersey before the last ones go. However, where to the Metro Bs run now, and do they even see service outside of the rush?I'm guessing Fairview is 100% out. Where does/did 3608 run out of anyway? |
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Posted by neolife07 on Sun Sep 6 20:25:39 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Sep 6 20:09:14 2009. Ditto and we got jipped with the slow ones!Now thats something thats worth waiting and riding on! |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Sun Sep 6 22:22:31 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Sep 2 13:06:21 2009. So far so good. |
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Posted by tbev on Sun Sep 6 22:52:59 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Sep 6 20:09:14 2009. That was 3603 and unfortunately she is gone. Out of PABT the metros run on the 123 125 and 126 lines basically. |
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