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Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jul 14 18:20:52 2008, in response to Re: ''Just only'' $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines?, posted by Aq Arcticson on Mon Jul 14 17:46:00 2008. My guess is that it's mostly a matter of converting infrastructure.The subway in this area - NYCT and PATH - have a variety of characteristics that would have to be met to allow compatible running. So that means the power (third rail at the correct voltage DC), signal system, clearances (especially vertical - subway tunnels are fairly tight), high platforms at the right height and of the proper length, etc. It would be fairly difficult and expensive to do. Plus I doubt that we would ever see street running with subway equipment. |
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Posted by 156n3rd on Mon Jul 14 19:04:31 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by ntrainride on Mon Jul 14 18:20:29 2008. I agree with you 100%! Greed is not good. And greed is driving this country down the toilet. I heard something said on CNBC today, that the economy is bigger than the government. Think that over. And while our Congress works about 60 days a year, and spend the rest of the time being cajoled in the hallways and get their palms gresed, we get the BOHICA, bend over here it comes again. Necessities such as health care, good education, job availability and good dependable transit are poofed away by the men behind the curtain. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 14 19:13:54 2008, in response to Re: ''Just only'' $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines?, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jul 14 18:20:52 2008. I doubt that we would ever see street running with subway equipmentOff-topic, but the Chicago, North Shore & Milwaukee and Chicago, Aurora and Elgin interurbans were exactly that, albeit they had to switch to trolley wire for the street running. Also, the SIR ran once with commuter equipment. Remember the MP72s on there?  Not to mention that the BMT-like cars on SIR had seating more conducive to commuter rail.  |
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Posted by 156n3rd on Mon Jul 14 19:37:14 2008, in response to Re: ''Just only'' $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 14 19:13:54 2008. That's what I was talking about. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jul 14 20:22:55 2008, in response to Re: ''Just only'' $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 14 19:13:54 2008. Also, the SIR ran once with commuter equipment. Remember the MP72s on there?Well, I'M not nearly old enough to remember that... :) But I've seen pictures. Not sure what the long term plans for SIR are, but theoretically they could replace their R44s with either the NYCT successor to the R44s (the R179s, we believe), or even LIRR's future order of M9s (which they will need for fleet expansion, possibly for M3 replacement, although I tend to doubt the latter). Assuming that the clearances are OK to run M9s, which would be rather larger than their subway relatives, the big question is how those cars would be maintained. From what I've read, SIR's heavy duty maintenance is done at NYCT shops, and the cars are nowadays trucked over; apparently there was a barge used in the past, but not for some years now, after modifications at the St George terminal. Having NYCT do the heavy work on the R44s makes perfect sense, since NYCT knows their R44s. But LIRR would really be the source for maintaining M9s, which would involve getting those cars out to probably Arch St or Hillside shops. Plus, the M9s would be designed for LIRR's more slightly more generous DC potential. They would also be considerably heavier than R44 cars. All of that leads me, off the cuff, to think that either a standard R179, or an R179A with a modified interior would do the trick. Are those seats reversible?
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Jul 14 20:25:58 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 14 12:25:13 2008. Yes i am even more sorry now that i seen that juvenile remark..I guess im just another decent person you alienated on this board. You need to grow up. |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Mon Jul 14 20:30:27 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by 156n3rd on Mon Jul 14 15:56:26 2008. That "board" if it even is one or just looks like it, is the way SIR covers their cab-door windows. You can't make a tit-for-tat comparison with NYCT equipment. There are many little difference here and there since they are not one entity. They post the old Evacuation Instructions and in a different place, they have "Watch the Gap" on the doors, they have "Do Not Lean On Door" atop the doors and do not have "Do Not Hold Doors" they're also less concerned about people holding doors open than NYCT from what I've seen. And they have the /\/\ logos.The cars are not in the greatest shape, but the reasons for it have already been explained and go beyond the fact that they're "old". NYCT has even older equipment which is still running and will continue to do so for a few years. When 2011 or 2012 comes along, SIR will get new cars, but based on how their R-44s have been treated by the SI riding public, don't expect the NTTs or M9s to be treated any better. In a few years they're going to be in the same shape. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 14 20:33:46 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by Railman718 on Mon Jul 14 20:25:58 2008. ?????i said you're not. I don't know what rant you went off on, but why in the world would i ever lump you in with an idiot like Edwards? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Jul 14 20:40:41 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 14 20:33:46 2008. If i said.."Im Sorry".. Then you say.... No,you are not in a replay what in hevans name whould you think i would repsond if you didnt clarify it? If you would have said No Railman i dont think you are like so and so individual then i just would have said Ok got you. I misunderstood what you was saying. Clarification is a good thing. Listen im not in the mood and im sure you arent either to go back and forth over this so lets squash it ok? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 14 20:42:48 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by Railman718 on Mon Jul 14 20:40:41 2008. dude, you're NOT Edwards. And you never will be. So don't EVER think I'd say you are like him. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 14 20:43:24 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by Railman718 on Mon Jul 14 20:40:41 2008. sorry for the misunderstanding. hope you feel better. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Jul 14 20:45:15 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 14 20:43:24 2008. No Problem...Now that i got FOOD in me much better thanks.. LONG day on that Bravo... |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Jul 15 08:11:42 2008, in response to Re: "Just only" $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jul 13 02:48:52 2008. The North Shore line is in such serious disrepair that they'd likely need to tear out anything that exists and replace it. The ROW hasn't seen a train in 20+ years; the section that runs along the waterfront is so badly deteriorated that in some places the rails hang in midair above the shoreline. And the line runs through a number of private industrial properties, without any grade speration (Caddell, Atlantic Salt) and under a building that I'm surprised hasn't been completely demolished (US Gypsum). The costs don't surprise me. A better solotion, given the cost, would be a completely new line along the SI Expressway from the existing ROW to Richmond Ave.As for a line along the West Shore Expressway? Completely useless. There is such a low population along that corridor, the cost could never be justified. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Jul 15 08:13:52 2008, in response to Re: ''Just only'' $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Mon Jul 14 15:02:30 2008. Except in the case of Staten Island's west shore, the majority of the land is either protected wetlands or parkland that can't be developed. The only area that's really available for development is the former GATX site, and that's more likely to see a toxic waste dump than housing. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Jul 15 08:19:11 2008, in response to Re: ''Just only'' $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Jul 14 18:05:49 2008. No, the connection currently in use connects to the (compass) northbound chemical coast line. The old connection, which has not been used since they reactivated the line to SI, connected to the NEC northbound, but currently lacks track. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Jul 15 08:22:52 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 13 10:11:02 2008. There's no such thing as a good ROI where public transit is involved. You have to measure public benefit vs. cost. Otherwise we'd still have private transit operators. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Jul 15 08:33:27 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jul 14 16:30:47 2008. The R44s on Staten Island are in much worse shape, both mechanically and visually, that they SHOULD be replaced with something else. The overhauls of the cars were done poorly by NYCT in-house crews, and the SIR crews didn't change any of their lousy maintanence practices when they came back from overhaul. For trains that only run through one short tunnel, the HVAC vents are particularly grimy; the ceiling paint is peeling, the walls are cracking where the door motors are, and the floors and seats are peeling (the latter due mostly to vandalism). |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Jul 15 08:37:02 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jul 14 15:32:35 2008. The cars were delivered as FRA compliant, but the line is now embargoed and they are no longer under FRA jurisdiction. It's solely a rapid transit line. There have been no freight trains on the line since 1985. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jul 15 12:24:24 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by Railman718 on Mon Jul 14 20:45:15 2008. My God,man...You went through all that with that idiot...all for nothing.. You KNOW he will never change his ways...nor will he EVER admit that he IS A FOOL... So why waste your time on gutter rats like Him? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 15 12:26:56 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by Edwards! on Tue Jul 15 12:24:24 2008. Edwards like i said ..Its just a message board. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 15 12:30:42 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 15 12:26:56 2008. Dewd ... you two GOTTA hook up some day! Hell ... we THREE gotta hook up some day! :) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 15 12:53:05 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 15 12:30:42 2008. Im off Weds Thurs Next Pick... |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Tue Jul 15 13:00:54 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 15 12:53:05 2008. question: just curious, but how often is it that employees will end up with non-consecutive RDOs, e.g., off Mon/Wed, or off Tues/Thurs or something like that? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 15 13:04:49 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by trainsarefun on Tue Jul 15 13:00:54 2008. It dont happen in RTO for T/O's and C/R and TWO's..Not sure about anything else... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 15 13:06:24 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 15 13:04:49 2008. You woulda LOVED "the splits" ... S/S RDO EVERY week ... it was the 6 hours between shafts that was the killer. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 15 13:09:32 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 15 12:53:05 2008. Middle of the week ... MIGHT be a possibility then ... only question is next trip down south ... got a FEW folks I'd like to hook up with for a hangout together ... and no, no need for a pitcher either except for those who feel they can dry up in time. Heh. But yeah, as one that doesn't see "weekends" myself off either, just might work! YOU, I wanna haunt! Heh. :) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 15 13:43:07 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 15 12:26:56 2008. See, what did I tell you? Edwards didn't apologize for posting the lie that "all transportation service enhancements were off the table for now". Instead he lashes out at the people who call him on it. Sounds like he's a real honorable fellow... |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jul 15 13:51:02 2008, in response to Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by GOLD_12th on Sun Jul 13 02:14:08 2008. Good: More rail options for Staten Island.Bad: It's light rail. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but capacity is limited from the start. If more people move to Staten Island, the light rail gets overwhelmed and we have another Blue Line fiasco. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Jul 15 19:34:20 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 15 13:09:32 2008. Email me if that's going to happen. Gotta probably bring the kid along though. |
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Posted by Aq Arcticson on Tue Jul 15 20:05:53 2008, in response to Re: ''Just only'' $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines?, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jul 14 18:20:52 2008. Ah okie...thanks =) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 15 20:22:16 2008, in response to Re: ''Just only'' $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines?, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jul 14 20:22:55 2008. Are those seats reversible?I believe that those were reversible seats on the original SIR cars, yes. Typical of interurbans, too. (Also IINM, the Tottenville Local used to be called the "Perth Amboy Local" on old B&O schedules, since you used to be able to get a ferry across the Arthur Kill. Where's NY Waterway when we need 'em for that?) |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jul 15 20:32:19 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 15 12:26:56 2008. True that...But look what you have to contend with... But to get BACK ON TOPIC.... Staten Island NEEDS more transportation options...what little it has is choking it to death. The NSR would be a start...and IF they somehow FOUND the money,like they bent over backwards for MANHATTAN..then all will be well. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Jul 15 21:45:37 2008, in response to Re: ''Just only'' $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines?, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Jul 15 08:19:11 2008. Oops, missed that connection to the chemical coast line. Thank you for pointing that out. Still, it runs nowhere useful. Also, I noticed the NEC NB connection, but that also lacks any real useful destination other than EWR and Newark. Unless you wanted to use it as an express to boost service to NYP from, say, Elizabeth, there's no point to using that routing. If the North Shore line were to run anywhere useful, it would have to run SOUTH on the NEC. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 16 08:44:24 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Jul 15 19:34:20 2008. I'll buy him a beer. Heh. Dunno when, but sometime soon ... :) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 16 08:47:05 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 16 08:44:24 2008. You dont have to buy me one Kevin since i dont drink alcohol..A Pepsi will be fine though ... ;o) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 16 08:55:05 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 16 08:47:05 2008. I *knew* that already ... that's one thing about rail folks ... even if you have a taste for the stuff, you don't want to take that chance even if you do. Know it well which is why I write code for a living. "I can HAS Saturdays, plz." Heh. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Wed Jul 16 09:27:21 2008, in response to Re: ''Just only'' $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 14 19:13:54 2008. And one such case remains in the suburbs of Kyoto, Japan. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Wed Jul 16 10:04:34 2008, in response to Re: ''Just only'' $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 15 20:22:16 2008. Where's NY Waterway when we need 'em for that?Word to the wise: don't hold your breath waiting for that! I actually don't know how efficient or inefficient ferry operations are, but NY Waterways certainly seems inclined to work only rather small-scale operations. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Wed Jul 16 10:05:52 2008, in response to Re: ''Just only'' $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines?, posted by Wado MP73 on Wed Jul 16 09:27:21 2008. Most impressive! |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Jul 16 10:25:10 2008, in response to Re: ''Just only'' $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 14 19:13:54 2008. CSS&SB still has street running. Full-size, electric MU cars. |
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Posted by MJF on Wed Jul 16 18:36:09 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 16 08:55:05 2008. I'll have his Belgian-weiser. :-) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 16 18:41:10 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by MJF on Wed Jul 16 18:36:09 2008. Yeah, just remembered how limited the deer-brinking options are in the city ... ah well ... hopefully we can find better drinking swill than THAT! :) |
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Posted by MJF on Wed Jul 16 18:47:34 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 16 18:41:10 2008. Find yer way over to Franklin Square. Croxley Ale House has 70 taps.Their beer list clearly states: NO BUD, NO MILLER, NO COORS. |
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Posted by 156n3rd on Wed Jul 16 18:51:12 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by MJF on Wed Jul 16 18:47:34 2008. May I interject that I had a Blue Moon for the first time recently. I liked it so much that 1 turned into 5! Excellent Molson product. I always found Bud to be bitter, like Schmidt's of Philadelphia and the old New York Rheingold. Just not for my taste. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 16 19:13:12 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by MJF on Wed Jul 16 18:47:34 2008. Gotcha on a technicality, bro ... Franklin Square is ever so slightly out of the five burros. :)But yeah, one of the reasons I avoid the gin mills in NYC is that the other three are typically all you can find. I remember last year, ended up with a buddy at Junkee Stadium ... asked if they had Sam Adams. Heh. Had a coke. (grin) |
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Posted by MJF on Thu Jul 17 17:50:14 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 16 19:13:12 2008. Not a problem. And to brighten your day, Croxley Ale House recently opened a beer garden in Alphabet City. Somewhere around Avenue B & E.3rd Street.So on your trip to the stadium you had a Coke & a smile? (ducks from thrown rotten tomato) |
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Posted by MJF on Thu Jul 17 17:54:15 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by 156n3rd on Wed Jul 16 18:51:12 2008. Blue Moon on tap? With an orange slice? Good stuff.I recently found Blue Moon in bottles. tried it and wasn't impressed. For me the only beer that's as good canned as it is on tap is Guinness. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 17 18:06:35 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by MJF on Thu Jul 17 17:50:14 2008. Heh. Wasn't my tab for the seats and a boring ball game. =)Croxley, eh? Nice touch ... now if only 2nd Avenue Deli hadn't moved uptown. Ah well ... will find a way to get down there one of these days. |
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Posted by MJF on Thu Jul 17 19:09:46 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 17 18:06:35 2008. So did you have a Coke or a Tab? ;-)Lemme know if you ever venture to the East Village. First round is on me. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 17 19:35:13 2008, in response to Re: Just only $1.4 Billion to build Staten Island North Shore & West Shore Lines, posted by MJF on Thu Jul 17 19:09:46 2008. Kewlness on a stick! And as to "diet" or "lite" ... I either do the real thing, or I pass. Had a couple of cokes, if it matters. Would have prefered rum perhaps, but it was a ball park. Heh. |
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