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Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by 67th Avenue on Mon May 12 00:24:16 2008

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What are your memories (good and bad) of the R26, R28, R29 and R33 both during their redbird era and previous era?

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon May 12 00:27:37 2008, in response to Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by 67th Avenue on Mon May 12 00:24:16 2008.

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I remember riding them and photographing them in 2001-2003. Those were good times.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Mon May 12 01:46:35 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon May 12 00:27:37 2008.

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I remember operating them in 2001-2003. Those were good times.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by monorail on Mon May 12 01:58:31 2008, in response to Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by 67th Avenue on Mon May 12 00:24:16 2008.

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nice to operate
but so were the 12/14, 15, 17's

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by JBar387 on Mon May 12 02:44:05 2008, in response to Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by 67th Avenue on Mon May 12 00:24:16 2008.

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I also remember the R-36WF's too. Loved riding them when I came home from work. But I think the best times were the early 90's when the Flushing line was under major re-construction. I always after leaving walking on the temp. platforms.



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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon May 12 02:50:49 2008, in response to Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by 67th Avenue on Mon May 12 00:24:16 2008.

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shot videos of them in 2000
all lines they rode on


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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by South Ferry on Mon May 12 03:00:40 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon May 12 02:50:49 2008.

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IAWTP Salaam's Redbird Videos rule!!!

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by 5119 on Mon May 12 03:04:55 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon May 12 02:50:49 2008.

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My friend and I waiting at 42nd styreet in 1962 for a train of R 29's on the #1. And my 9th grade class going to the World's Fair in 1964 on the Super Express which consisted of Blue and White R-36s. The car we were on had the State of Deleware printed on its' side.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon May 12 08:42:15 2008, in response to Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by 67th Avenue on Mon May 12 00:24:16 2008.

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Ah, yes. Remember them well.

















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A Couple More R36 photos

Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon May 12 08:46:33 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon May 12 08:42:15 2008.

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The camera I was using at the time had an automatic flash.


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Re: A Couple More R36 photos

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon May 12 09:01:20 2008, in response to A Couple More R36 photos, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon May 12 08:46:33 2008.

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Nice.


2 more reasons why the Redbirds are much more colorful (pun intended) to take photos instead of the R62A silverbirds running on the 7 line today.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon May 12 09:04:27 2008, in response to Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by 67th Avenue on Mon May 12 00:24:16 2008.

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I remember them blazing up and down the Lexington Ave line, especially inbound trains through the Joralemon tubes in the 1970's and early 80's before the slowdown. Even the R62 cars on the 4 line, when new, still blazed like speed demons.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by Railman718 on Mon May 12 09:32:52 2008, in response to Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by 67th Avenue on Mon May 12 00:24:16 2008.

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I remember operating them on that duece,4,5,6 and 7 lines...

Good times, good trains, good C/R's as well..

Well the Rebirds on the 7 line sometimes ahd a mind of their own..

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by Railman718 on Mon May 12 09:34:01 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by Railman718 on Mon May 12 09:32:52 2008.

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I remember operating them on that duece,4,5,6 and 7 lines...

Good times, good trains, good C/R's as well..

Well the Rebirds on the 7 line sometimes had a mind of their own..



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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Mon May 12 10:52:28 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon May 12 02:50:49 2008.

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nEVER HEARD OF THEM.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Mon May 12 10:56:10 2008, in response to Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by 67th Avenue on Mon May 12 00:24:16 2008.

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They were pitiful, sucky, rustbuckets. 40 year old pieces of crap that ran like shit

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 12 11:33:19 2008, in response to Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by 67th Avenue on Mon May 12 00:24:16 2008.

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The R28's were the best cars ever made for ths subway. Nothing comes close to them. The R29's were shitcans and don't make me laugh by mentioning the R33's. Pure garbage in comparison.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon May 12 11:41:06 2008, in response to Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by 67th Avenue on Mon May 12 00:24:16 2008.

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I only knew them during the Redbird era.

What I liked best about them is that they were simple yet effective veterans of the subway. No fancy doodads to malfunction, no complicated electronics to break. Subway cars the way they ought to be.

When you rode a Redbird, you were riding the subway. The R142's and the R160's are nice but too antiseptic for my taste. The Redbirds were as Noo Yawk as a bagel and a shmear.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 12 11:45:54 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by Mitch45 on Mon May 12 11:41:06 2008.

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Funny, in the 1960's the same was said about the R26-33's, in comparison to the Low-V's.

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Re: A Couple More R36 photos

Posted by JBar387 on Mon May 12 14:12:23 2008, in response to A Couple More R36 photos, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon May 12 08:46:33 2008.

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Neat Stuff!

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon May 12 14:23:32 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 12 11:33:19 2008.

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Who are you calling garbage you shoundt be talking R16. with all your door problems at least i lasted 39 years you only lasted a mere 20 years. I gave much better service and was much more reliable LOL. J/K

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon May 12 14:33:42 2008, in response to Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by 67th Avenue on Mon May 12 00:24:16 2008.

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I have nothing but good memiories on those great cars. They gave great service fun to ride had RFW and went fast. They were my favorite cars then those POS R142/A came and ruined everything. Just like what the R160 is doing in the B div. I wish i knew how to build an time machine so i could go back to the 90s and ride these great cars again.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon May 12 14:39:48 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon May 12 14:33:42 2008.

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******Truth***********
the replacements were

ugh
ratz

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon May 12 14:49:41 2008, in response to Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by 67th Avenue on Mon May 12 00:24:16 2008.

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Re: A Couple More R36 photos

Posted by RAILFAN_7_40ST on Mon May 12 14:50:25 2008, in response to A Couple More R36 photos, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon May 12 08:46:33 2008.

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i love the first one.
remind me when i move to sunnyside.


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Re: A Couple More R36 photos

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon May 12 14:51:14 2008, in response to A Couple More R36 photos, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon May 12 08:46:33 2008.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Mon May 12 17:03:24 2008, in response to Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by 67th Avenue on Mon May 12 00:24:16 2008.

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My first ride on a Redbird was in 1996 when I was in third grade. I was with my father on a 6 train going up the East Side to see a plastic surgeon after I had smashed up my left arm. I was 9 or 10 at the time and I thought it was the coolest thing in the world to be able to stand at the window and look out into the tunnel. This was a few years before I started to really like the subways. I though the Redbirds were so much cooler then the R46 they had on the F line neat my house.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by Midnight Rider on Mon May 12 20:39:24 2008, in response to Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by 67th Avenue on Mon May 12 00:24:16 2008.

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R33WF & Mainliners plus R36WF & Mainliners on the #7 line - that's all I knew as a child until the 2000s came.

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Re: A Couple More R36 photos

Posted by monorail on Tue May 13 01:35:30 2008, in response to A Couple More R36 photos, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon May 12 08:46:33 2008.

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taken yesterday?

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Yet Another Photo!

Posted by R36 #9346 on Tue May 13 10:02:31 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon May 12 08:42:15 2008.

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L-R: 8697, 8776, 7954, 8785. Check out the end sign on 8785.


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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by straphanger9 on Thu May 15 20:43:18 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 12 11:33:19 2008.

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I remember a certain R29 from when I was much younger...

pulling into a station on the 6 as a kid the front storm door slid open...front OF THE TRAIN storm door and no safety gates no nothing just air...kind of scary, was sitting down nearby when it happened, someone just got up and closed it, don't even think the T/O even knew it happened.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Thu May 15 21:00:42 2008, in response to Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by 67th Avenue on Mon May 12 00:24:16 2008.

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How I'd take the R33MLs all the time on the 4 line. Really great rides on the Jerome line. Great memories from the Redbird Era. Those were the times...

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 15 21:32:12 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by straphanger9 on Thu May 15 20:43:18 2008.

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Some railroads used to run trains with even the end doors unlocked. Old NYC companies did this too.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by R42 4787 on Thu May 15 21:47:55 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 15 21:32:12 2008.

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I've occasionly seen NJT Comet Is running end door open with just a thin aluminum bar blocking the end vestibule.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 15 22:09:55 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by R42 4787 on Thu May 15 21:47:55 2008.

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but only the engineer and conductors are allowed in that area. :(

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by Broadway Buffer on Thu May 15 23:37:47 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by R42 4787 on Thu May 15 21:47:55 2008.

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A few years ago someone here reported opening the front stormdoor on an R-40S. As I recall, the poster informed the T/O who then locked it. I wonder how many railfans check whether or not the storm door of the RFW is locked when railfanning. Some people use the handle as something to onto.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by Broadway Buffer on Thu May 15 23:38:35 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by R42 4787 on Thu May 15 21:47:55 2008.

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A few years ago someone here reported opening the front stormdoor on an R-40S. As I recall, the poster informed the T/O who then locked it. I wonder how many railfans check whether or not the stormdoor of the RFW is locked when railfanning. Some people use the handle as something to hold onto.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by straphanger9 on Fri May 16 00:24:43 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by Broadway Buffer on Thu May 15 23:37:47 2008.

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I always check it since I hang onto the handle for support. As to the R29 incident I described above, (thankfully) no one was at leaning on or near the door when it slid open, and no one opened it, it slid open entirely on its own as the train was pulling into a station

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri May 16 03:08:49 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon May 12 08:42:15 2008.

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Which stop is Borough Hall in this case?

I don't remember ever seeing that particular Borough Hall Station.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri May 16 07:23:12 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by Wallyhorse on Fri May 16 03:08:49 2008.

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It's the Borough Hall station on the 4 line.

The extreme south end of the station. From there, you can see the northbound 2 and 3 trains turn away from the line.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 16 07:51:22 2008, in response to Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by 67th Avenue on Mon May 12 00:24:16 2008.

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Does a duck quack?:)

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 16 10:38:16 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon May 12 14:23:32 2008.

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You were crap compared to the might R28!

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 16 10:39:10 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by straphanger9 on Thu May 15 20:43:18 2008.

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That would never happen on the awesome 28's.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by Broadway Buffer on Fri May 16 14:00:00 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri May 16 07:23:12 2008.

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Yes, and to those unfamiliar with the station it seems as if those 2 and 3 trains are going to enter that station. But that photo is sort of deceiving since those fridge tiles are only at the extreme ends of the two Borough Hall stations.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by irt1958 on Fri May 16 14:43:48 2008, in response to Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by 67th Avenue on Mon May 12 00:24:16 2008.

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The R26 above all. When I was 8 years old, I was waiting on the north end, of the southbound platform, of the Franklin Ave IRT station, when one came roaring into the station, on the express northbound track. It was 1959, (sometime in October; the sun set at about 6:00PM) and I was shocked; I never saw a new Lexington Ave Express before. I remember the new fluorescently lit sign; is said WOODLAWN RD (in green letters) instead of WOODLAWN JEROME AVE like the Lo V's it (and other SMEEs) was to later totally replace. I told a couple of friends later, but they didn't believe me, we still somehow knew it was inevitable anyway. I told my father, who was a TA Construction Flagman, and he just laughed as he told me: "we have to progress".

The last time was when I caught 7752, on the 6 line, sometime in 2003. I got off at 110th St and thought back to 1959, it could very well have been the same car that I saw then. That irony was not lost as I watched it pull out; it was the last time I saw an R26 in revenue service.

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by South Ferry on Fri May 16 15:02:20 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon May 12 14:49:41 2008.

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THAT'S w00t I'm token about!!!!!!!!

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GO RIDE Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by South Ferry on Fri May 16 15:11:51 2008, in response to Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by 67th Avenue on Mon May 12 00:24:16 2008.

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CLICK HERE FOR DA RIDE----> IRT Redbirds 14 Street to Chambers (shot in 2000; a Sharp Viewcam 8mm camurrah)


My Recollections:

-R17s on the 1 line (1982 or so).
-Storm door cracked open nb between Dyckman and 225, and I was out there unshielded for a blissful 7 minutes.
-INTENTIONALLY waited for a Redbird on the 2 in the year 2000 after the R142 junkers started arriving, I'd wait around on the platform 10+ minutes just for a Redbird in Manhattan.

and there's this GEM with the Birdies roaming around East 180th and moar~~!!!




-WAITED AROUND TWO HOURS-PLUS at TSQ in 2003 only to hear the sole redbird set was in the yahd that day and didn't come out.
-RODE A THREE-TRIPPER with Kool-D at the RFW on the 7 a coupla days before the Last Ride.



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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by South Ferry on Fri May 16 15:18:07 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by straphanger9 on Thu May 15 20:43:18 2008.

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pulling into a station on the 6 as a kid the front storm door slid open...front OF THE TRAIN storm door and no safety gates no nothing just air...

SAME THING happened to us, 'xcept we were nb on the 1 at Dyckman and the thing slid open while myself and a buncha neighbors kids huddled at the RFW (which was at forehead-level for us tykes) so anyway, door slides open, one of them N00bies foolishly shuts it, while others realize we can open it a few inches short and peer around it... got to teh Bway Bridge and it was my turn... wide open space, fresh air and tracks.. we only opened it about four-five inches at MAX... just enough to pop a head around the door and see bliss.. till my ratty sis gets up and realizes what we're doing and bangs us in to teh T/O.

that was our stop anyways.

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Re: A Couple More R36 photos

Posted by error46146 on Fri May 16 15:49:08 2008, in response to Re: A Couple More R36 photos, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon May 12 14:51:14 2008.

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i thought they got rid of the redbirds in 2006 ?

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Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?

Posted by error46146 on Fri May 16 15:52:37 2008, in response to Re: Do You Remember The R26, R28, R29 And R33 Redbirds?, posted by Broadway Buffer on Thu May 15 23:38:35 2008.

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i hold onto the RFW door handle sometimes, i never came across one that was not locked

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