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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Feb 1 09:59:20 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 1 09:48:55 2008.

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>>>>...if all of you people would quit giving him an audience.<<<

Why should anyone listen to you? You give him all the audience he requires.


I know full well you won't respond to this, troll that you are.

BTW replace "Ron" with "Brian" in your little diatribe and it looks like you are describing your pathetic self. Take a good long hard look in the mirror and maybe you'll see why the majority of people who post here simple cannot stand you AND cannot be bothered even debating you about it. I truly feel sorry foer your wife.

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by trainsarefun on Fri Feb 1 09:59:44 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 1 09:48:55 2008.

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Like I've said before, I reply to anyone here to further the conversations we find interesting. That includes some people unpopular with other people. I honestly don't care about the local political agenda of whoever wants whoever else off here. Doesn't concern me. Not my forum to administrate - I'm a guest here, I'm grateful to whoever provides this place, and I don't trouble with them with my views about who should bugger off. You'll note that more than a few make such opinions known about either you or me. And it's not me. Doesn't bother me in replying to yours' or anyone else's posts.

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Feb 1 10:04:17 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by trainsarefun on Fri Feb 1 09:59:44 2008.

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very well put

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OT Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by trainsarefun on Fri Feb 1 10:11:17 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 1 09:50:58 2008.

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Well, I'll label this OT.

Honestly, you're way too wrapped up in politics here. Not my job to influence or police anyone here. I have some conversations, make some points, enjoy myself in a debate or two, maybe learn a thing or two, and have a nice cup of tea (or two). You seem to treat this place as a recipe for hypertension; there are things in this world to get worked up about - the politics of an online forum sure as hell isn't one of them!

Seeing firsthand how concerned you are about Ron, well, in the words of another reply to you, 'Practice what you preach'....


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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 11:08:57 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by trainsarefun on Fri Feb 1 09:06:24 2008.

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"Moreover, you don't have to take the word of foamers for it. Listen to the MTA. They recently promised to make escalator and elevator performance better, and recognized its a longstanding problem. That recognition alone has taken a long time to materialize, but its a positive step. In a news story on the same, I also recall an MTA official also recognizing that escalator renovations took too long, and that too needed updating. This was around the time when the ability to check to see what's actively working came online. "

That much is true. MTA did say that.

"WMATA, a much newer system, to be sure, has lots of escalators, some of them very long given the construction of their system, and I've noticed they seemed to have a rather better record on escalators."

WMATA's decision not to put canopies over their escalators led to extensive outages due to snow and ice. There was extensive reporting about that too. Also, WMATA has the advantage of shuttingh down completely between 1AM and 5AMor so. Any system which is not a 24/7 operation has an advantage over 24/7 system.

Still, if WMATA is doing better o escalators (that's possible), the opposite is true with their trains. Ironic isn't it? The escalator's working but the train breaks down more often. In New York, you run into a problem with the escalator, but you can count on the train.









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Re: OT Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 11:12:13 2008, in response to OT Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by trainsarefun on Fri Feb 1 10:11:17 2008.

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So you like tea?

I like tea? I drink black tea, different flavors...spearment, orange, peach, raspberry, vanilla caramel, vanilla almond, vanilla hazelnut, regular. I admit that gree tea doesn't appeal to me, nor does herbal. White tea (young tea leaves of the same plant that gives you "black tea") is pretty tasty.

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 11:13:05 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Feb 1 09:59:20 2008.

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Brian's wife is a remarkable woman.

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Re: OT Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Feb 1 11:28:03 2008, in response to Re: OT Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 11:12:13 2008.

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uh oh now brian will not like anyone who drinks tea.

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Feb 1 11:29:13 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 11:13:05 2008.

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Has to be.

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Re: OT Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 11:45:29 2008, in response to Re: OT Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Feb 1 11:28:03 2008.

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Starbucks should have paid me for that post. 8-)

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by R30A on Fri Feb 1 12:17:45 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Fytton on Fri Feb 1 07:46:35 2008.

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Until a year or 2 ago, the middle escalator at 53/Lex stated that it would reopen in 2003. It closed sometime in 2000-2001 IIRC. It still has not reopened(at least, not the last time I was there, which was probably december)

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 1 12:40:24 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by trainsarefun on Fri Feb 1 09:59:44 2008.

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I reply to anyone here to further the conversations we find interesting.

Argh, this is what I am trying to say.

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Re: OT Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 1 12:41:50 2008, in response to OT Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by trainsarefun on Fri Feb 1 10:11:17 2008.

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so like I said, YOU are taking his side now. at least we've made that clear.

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Feb 1 12:41:53 2008, in response to A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by WillD on Thu Jan 31 23:50:23 2008.

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Considering how real estate is now in a SHORTAGE---why, oh WHY? Just sell or net-lease the damn air rights!

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 1 13:14:40 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by trainsarefun on Fri Feb 1 09:59:44 2008.

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I honestly don't care about the local political agenda of whoever wants whoever else off here.

I do not want anyone off here. I want the end of the unwarranted personal attacks. On a normal forum, the moderator would warn and then ban such people. This forum instead is controlled by the anarchy model of moderation, where the users take things into their own hands.

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 14:47:30 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Fytton on Fri Feb 1 07:46:35 2008.

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Problem is this:

In the NYC stations where the escalators are a necessity not luxury, they have the most problems.

63/Lex is a station that needs escalators, and they breakdown often.

Parsons/Archer is also pretty deep, and they breakdown constantly.

You don't know how many times I've walked from the J at Parsons which is on the lower level, all the way up to the street without a working escalator. I'm young, but I feel bad for those older people coming home from a hard days work, having to perform an unscheduled step aerobics class that their doctor wouldn't recommend.

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 14:48:41 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by avid reader on Fri Feb 1 08:34:01 2008.

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Thank you. Maybe Ron will read this and see it's a legit discussion, not foaming.

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 14:52:02 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 1 05:14:35 2008.

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I don't know why Ron is like that. He's probably an intelligent guy. Bet he's one of these people who got between 1380 and 1430 on his SAT, is respected in whatever field he's in, etc......

My guess is no one ever gave him a bloody beating, to humble him a bit.

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 14:52:40 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by R30A on Fri Feb 1 05:50:23 2008.

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He needs to be humbled by the Iron Sheik.

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 14:57:49 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Feb 1 05:50:10 2008.

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No one is playing victim. Maybe "locked out" is not the proper term.

Inconvenienced is accurate.

Lefferts Blvd, 168, are two excellent example of stations where a well-meaning passenger may want to buy a Metrocard and be denied by the MVM. These customers will then have to walk back up the stairs, cross several streets, and walk several blocks to access the system through an entrance with a token booth clerk. By then you'll miss your train.

If you think this is cool, then good for you.

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 14:59:08 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by R30A on Fri Feb 1 05:52:53 2008.

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You should not have to walk. The machines should work. NYCTA should be held accountable. More people should get injured making the walk to a staffed entrance, and SUE. Then the bullshit will stop.

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 15:02:39 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Feb 1 05:56:18 2008.

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If ALL or even MOST machines worked properly, we'd be prepared. Can't prepare if the shit is not working.

MVM in NYC are a joke. Daily News should do an article on how poorly they function, and the great inconvenience good New Yorkers go through dealing with this. Class action lawsuit should follow.

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 15:09:18 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by avid reader on Fri Feb 1 08:34:01 2008.

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That was pretty stupid of the manager to do.

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 15:11:13 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 14:48:41 2008.

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I didn't say it wasn't a legit discussion. I said exaggeration of the impact of reakdowns is common because people don't notice it when everything goes fine.It's human nature.

I had a problem at Parsons twice in four months. Your experience is different and more recent. Maybe conditions have changed thee.

I've never used the 63/Lex station, so I can't comment o it.

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 15:12:43 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Feb 1 09:59:20 2008.

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Hey guy, there's no need to bring family into this. If you want to make fun of a subchatter that's one thing, but you shouldn't bring someone's wife or any family member into this.

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Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 15:15:06 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 15:02:39 2008.

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The sky is falling...

I notice that you have complained about every aspect of the subway:

1) The type of people who ride it (you don't want them in your neighborhood)
2) The escalators (they never work for you and if they do, they are always going in the wrong direction for you)
3) The MetroCard Vending Machines
4) The trains

Do you have a peersecution complex?


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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 15:51:48 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 14:52:02 2008.

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That sounds just like your style. Seig Heil! When do you and the other storm troopers get together for your White Power rally?



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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 16:42:48 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 15:51:48 2008.

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Only hate group on this message board is the Aryel Brotherhood.

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Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 17:08:52 2008, in response to Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 15:15:06 2008.

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I live near a subway station, so you can't say I don't want subway riders in my neighborhood. The MVM's are always malfunctioning. The escalators often breakdown giving everyone a step aerobics class/subway ride combined.

You're wRONg again.

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wRONgInBayside Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 17:15:07 2008, in response to Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 15:15:06 2008.

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As I've stated, it's no coincidence your name is found within the word wrong, because you are on every point. Not unusual.


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Re: LuchAryan

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 17:24:37 2008, in response to wRONgInBayside Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 17:15:07 2008.

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When were you going to start your own version of Kristallnachr in Harlem?

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Re: LuchAryan

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 17:35:48 2008, in response to Re: LuchAryan, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 17:24:37 2008.

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Did you know?

The AAA in LuchAAA stands for Aryel's An Asshole?

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Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 17:40:48 2008, in response to Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 17:08:52 2008.

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So all those threads where you wished you lived in Bayside were wrong?

Hmmm...could it be you're a hypocrite? Could be...

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Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 17:47:31 2008, in response to Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 17:40:48 2008.

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I could move to Bayside tomorrow if I want to.



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Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 17:49:28 2008, in response to Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 17:47:31 2008.

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Indeed. An alcoholic can stop drinking tomorrow if he wants to. :0)

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Re: wRONgInBayside Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Feb 1 18:32:24 2008, in response to wRONgInBayside Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 17:15:07 2008.

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That's a good one! :-D :-D :-D :-D

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Feb 1 18:40:19 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 15:12:43 2008.

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Why not, he's brought her in before and I only post good things about her. I truly do feel sorry for her.

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Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 18:44:28 2008, in response to Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 15:15:06 2008.

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What you don't understand, is that one can love trains, and hate the New York City Transit Authority.

It's easy to develop this attitude. Just spend most of your adult life being a passenger every day(especially nights and weekends). If that isn't enough, try working for them.

When you get a job with Transit, especially RTO, the first thing you need to do is buy a car. Transit bounces you all over the city at all hours of the night. You need a car when you're a new Train Operator.

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Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 18:49:19 2008, in response to Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 18:44:28 2008.

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I hear you.

You're entitled to hate what you like (is that an oxymoron?)

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 18:50:00 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Feb 1 18:40:19 2008.

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If they make each other happy, that's cool.

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Re: LuchAryan

Posted by JohnL on Fri Feb 1 19:05:39 2008, in response to Re: LuchAryan, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 17:35:48 2008.

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Zing!

ROTFLMAO!



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Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA

Posted by monorail on Fri Feb 1 19:27:10 2008, in response to Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 17:08:52 2008.

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'The MVM's are always malfunctioning.'

doubt it VERY MUCH!

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Re: OT Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by trainsarefun on Fri Feb 1 19:29:03 2008, in response to Re: OT Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 1 12:41:50 2008.

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so like I said, YOU are taking his side now. at least we've made that clear.

Right. Let me pee on the relevant fire hydrants in cyberspace to make my stance clear. Not.

This is pretty juvenile, if you actually think I care enough about your online dispute with someone else here to take sides in what for all purposes seems like a pissing contest.

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by trainsarefun on Fri Feb 1 20:05:15 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 15:02:39 2008.

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My own observation has been that the smaller vending machines are more reliable than their larger cousins. This was also relayed to me by a 'burgundy' station agent, who on seeing two straight larger machines unable to handle my transaction, suggested that I should try the smaller machines. I did. And I've done so ever since; at least, if I can find one.

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Feb 1 20:07:11 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by trainsarefun on Fri Feb 1 20:05:15 2008.

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That's probably because the smaller machines don't have cash- and coin-handling apparatuses (apparati?) and therefore don't need to be maintained or emptied.

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 20:10:37 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Feb 1 20:07:11 2008.

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True. Also, fewer mechanisms that can jam.

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by trainsarefun on Fri Feb 1 20:26:34 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Feb 1 20:07:11 2008.

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Indeed, I should've mentioned that; they're little use to those without the requisite plastic card.

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Feb 1 21:48:01 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 1 12:40:24 2008.

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AND THIS IS WHAT HE'S TRYING TO SAY:

He
Will
Reply
to
anyone
he
damn
well
pleases
to.

Got
it?

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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Feb 1 21:50:20 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 1 13:14:40 2008.

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>>>>On a normal forum, the moderator would warn and then ban such people.<<<<

And you'd be the first to go

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Re: OT Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Feb 1 21:58:27 2008, in response to Re: OT Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by trainsarefun on Fri Feb 1 19:29:03 2008.

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lol

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