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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 08:31:28 2022 Here stands #647 [#5915] before application of blue stripe and painting of end bonnet silver. Looks very much like they do today. (Feb. 28, 1976)  #539 [#6079] shows the completed process. (Feb. 28, 1976)  Assembled in Croxton Yard (NJ) are R-46's for their final leg of the journey to NYC. (Oct. 11, 1976)  In Hoboken, NJ with the Twin Towers as a backdrop. (May 3, 1976)  At the car float docks in Brooklyn, NY. Yes, the R-46's had signs for the (EE) but to my knowledge, may never have run there. (June 27, 1976)  I believe this location is City Yard, adjacent to Coney island Yard. (April 1976)  #888 [#5742] after being off loaded from the car float bridge at 50th St & 1st Ave.(Dec. 30, 1976)  At Freemont Jct. where some R-46's were sent to the LIRR for high speed testing. (April 22, 1975)   For the U.S. Bi-centennial, two R-46's were decked out with stars and stripes. #680 [#6046] was temporarily numbered #1776. The second car to receive this treatment #681 [#5613] was temporarily renumbered as #1976. (June 27, 1976)  The window banner proclaiming this to be the 200th R-46. (June 27, 1976)  I was riding the (B) train on this date and at 9th Ave witnessed the delivery of new R-46's. Luckily I had my camera bag with me to photograph #1162 [#5608] and others. (July 1978)  On the north end of the consist was #1164 [#6148] looking spotless. (July 1978)  Awaiting the trip to Coney island Yard, out pops a (RR) put in that was stored in 9th Ave lower level. (July 1978) 
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Posted by frilter199 on Thu Jan 13 09:20:52 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 08:31:28 2022. Pretty awesome pictures. NYC trains used to have character. |
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Posted by W.B. on Thu Jan 13 10:52:25 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 08:31:28 2022. How apropos, the last pic, to show one of the cars (R-32) which last remaining fleet was just retired. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 13 10:55:03 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 08:31:28 2022. They may not be the most popular cars but I think they’re great. The photos are magnificent! Thanks for sharing.I especially like the 9th photos. That’s my close cousin’s station and one of my favorite stations in the system. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 11:02:31 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 13 10:55:03 2022. They may not be the most popular cars but I think they’re great. The photos are magnificent! Thanks for sharing.Thank you. I felt the R-46's were an improvement over the R-44's. The R-46's rode like a dream with the original Rockwell trucks. The came the Rockwell HPT-2 truck fiasco and their SMEE truck replacements made for a harsher yet harder ride. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 11:06:10 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by frilter199 on Thu Jan 13 09:20:52 2022. Pretty awesome pictures. NYC trains used to have character.Thank you. When all the R-211's come in, then the system will have no character. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Q4 on Thu Jan 13 11:08:11 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 08:31:28 2022. Thanks as always for these. Love them all especially the last one and the one showing the EE and GG rollsigns. Got a quick at the one at Freemont Tower with the canine in the group of guys in the picture. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 11:09:06 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by W.B. on Thu Jan 13 10:52:25 2022. How apropos, the last pic, to show one of the cars (R-32) which last remaining fleet was just retired.I agree. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 11:10:58 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Q4 on Thu Jan 13 11:08:11 2022. Thanks as always for these. Love them all especially the last one and the one showing the EE and GG rollsigns. Got a quick at the one at Freemont Tower with the canine in the group of guys in the picture.Thank you, were you in that photo at Freemont ? Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jan 13 11:18:37 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 08:31:28 2022. Those cars were beauties when new. I thought so then, and I still do.I've long said on here that I wasn't too fond of them in the past 20 years, but I'm starting to re-think that. I will miss the seating pattern when they're gone. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 13 11:18:46 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by W.B. on Thu Jan 13 10:52:25 2022. Yup |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 13 11:21:56 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 11:02:31 2022. I wish I was old enough to have ridden them with the Rockwell trucks then. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 13 11:22:30 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 11:06:10 2022. So stale |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 11:33:43 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 13 11:22:30 2022. So staleIt will be a "cookie cutter" fleet. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 13 11:42:53 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 11:33:43 2022. That’s the worst.We had such a nice variety for a while. That’ll never happen again. |
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Posted by Q4 on Thu Jan 13 11:53:30 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 11:10:58 2022. No I was not. Left out the "laugh" after "quick" on my post. |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Jan 13 11:57:17 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 11:02:31 2022. Bill: I was never a fan of the seventy five footers. Nevertheless I will say that the R-46's were the best of a bad lot. And to be fair they have given many years of service. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jan 13 13:01:18 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 11:06:10 2022. They will be vertical eleavtors with a few seats. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 13 13:31:05 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 08:31:28 2022. Great photos, but one correction. There is no Pullman,Il., Pullman is a neighborhood on the south side of Chicago. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 13:31:48 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Joe V on Thu Jan 13 13:01:18 2022. They will be vertical elevators with a few seats.You must mean 'horizontal' elevators. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jan 13 13:53:35 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 13:31:48 2022. Yes, that's right |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 13 14:09:49 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 08:31:28 2022. The Bicentennial Train ran on the Sea Beach as well. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jan 13 14:14:18 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 13 11:42:53 2022. Like the LIRR in days of yore. When I was a kid, after school I'd go down the the Woodside Sta & watch all the different diesel & electric trains, all mixed up, looking and sounding great.A train lovers smorgasbord!No more. It went from that to the sterile looking M1s & M3s now on to M7s & M9 and the C-3 bilevels with their 43 diesel electric and dual mode locomotives. No variety. A very boring show. |
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Posted by W.B. on Thu Jan 13 14:52:44 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Jan 13 11:57:17 2022. Ironic they've outlasted the R-44's . . . must've been a tribute to the workmanship of Pullman Standard . . . |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 15:30:13 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 13 13:31:05 2022. Great photos, but one correction. There is no Pullman,Il., Pullman is a neighborhood on the south side of Chicago.Thanks for the correction. Pullman, Il was written on the slide mount, so I guess Gerald Landau must have abbreviated it. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 13 16:51:32 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jan 13 14:14:18 2022. Exactly |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jan 13 21:55:12 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 13 10:55:03 2022. Aside from the truck issues, much better cars after they took out the consistently failing P-Wire System....and as it turned out, according to a TSS I was taking to one night, the problem was poor maintenance. Not taking care of the batteries.For the crews the cabs were much roomier than the R44's. And for the t/o (both pre and post P-Wire, very easy and fun to operate with the controller right in the middle. I would operate with either hand. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jan 14 00:02:35 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 11:33:43 2022. You condemn the NYCT’s “cookie cutter”fleet yet in the early days of the BRT, and IRT most of the cars were close enough to each other in appearance that to the average passenger, they were the same type of car. While it is true that the various contracts of BMT steels had a few minor differences like roofs and signs, they were still basically a single type of car and remained so till the D types came along. As for the IRT even taking into consideration the deck roof Hi-Vs and the small group of World’s fair Steinways, almost all the IRT cars looked alike to the average person. The same or even more so of the IND which had almost completely identical cars from the R-1s through the R-9s and kept that same appearance till the R-10s came in after WWII. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jan 14 00:04:57 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jan 13 21:55:12 2022. It was the R-44s that had the controller in the middle post GOH. The R-46s had it on the right. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jan 16 09:25:58 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 08:31:28 2022. Well, here they are #513 [#5947] & #510 [#5538] at the LIRR Kew Gardens station. (April 24, 1975)  After the Bi-Centennial festivities waned, #680 [#6046] & #681 dropped their temporary numbers of #1776 & #1976. (Coney Island - Sept 10, 1977)  Three years later, #680 was separated from #681 and the colorful Bi-Centennial colors have faded with some graffiti to add insult to injury. The diamond CC sign looks taped on the glass. This was the time of the Rockwell truck fiasco that sent the R-46's all over to the delight of railfans. (Nov. 4, 1980)  The R-46's were not assigned to the BMT eastern division but that didn't stop a special ERA fan trip from venturing there, unfortunately I didn't attend. Fresh Pond Rd [Myrtle Ave Line] (July 4, 1976)  The flyover track at Broadway Jct is on the top ten best places for photos for years. (July 4, 1976)  An (N) Sea Beach PM rush hour "put in" from Coney Island yard waits for the lineup at the Bay 50th St 'wye'. (July 1978)  The ramp at the Culver line's Ditmas Ave at full 210mm telephoto looking more execrated than normal. My 80-210mm two touch-tele zoom lens was like a miniature mortar shell and weighed just as much ! (July 1978)  Now for some Culver line action! Seen at 18th Ave, an (F) Culver Exp switches over to the express track at Ditmas Ave. (July 1978)  An (F) local train switches over to the express track at Kings Hwy. which I believe is the last stop. (July 1978)  An (F) Culver Exp switches over to the local track at Kings Hwy. The final destination should be Coney Island.(July 1978))  About three months after the previous Kings Hwy. photos on a clear rather than hazy day the Empire Bldg is more prominent. (October 1978)  At the Forth Ave station, looking towards Smith-9th St on full telephoto. When I was young and riding the old (D) train I always wondered where that center fifth track went. (July 1978)  At the Smith-9th St station when the Twin Towers commanded the skyline, a four car (GG) train approaches the station. (October 1978)  Some twenty three years later, the (GG) is now the (G) Crosstown Local. If you look where the Twin Towers once stood, you'll see faint white smoke from the underground fires still burning at "ground zero" from September 11th. (November 2001)  At the Brighton Line's Ave H station, I was doing some photography when this R-46 (N) appeared. Not a reroute, probably taking the scenic route to Coney Island yard. (July 1979)  Before undergoing a total rebuild of Stillwell terminal, the employee crew room was getting makeover. A solitary R-10 [#3089) was set up a a temporary locker room from what I was told. (October 1979)  An R-46 (N) on the Astoria line is approaching the Astoria Blvd station. (Oct. 7, 1979)  South motor #993 [#6165] leads an (F) reroute to Lefferts Blvd at Liberty Jct. (June 1994)  With a single track operation at the West 8th St station, #728 [#5638] is the south motor of an (F) train. (undated photo) COMING SOON........R-68's.  |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jan 16 09:26:23 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 1, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 13 08:31:28 2022. Well, here they are #513 [#5947] & #510 [#5538] at the LIRR Kew Gardens station. (April 24, 1975) After the Bi-Centennial festivities waned, #680 [#6046] & #681 dropped their temporary numbers of #1776 & #1976. (Coney Island - Sept 10, 1977) Three years later, #680 was separated from #681 and the colorful Bi-Centennial colors have faded with some graffiti to add insult to injury. The diamond CC sign looks taped on the glass. This was the time of the Rockwell truck fiasco that sent the R-46's all over to the delight of railfans. (Nov. 4, 1980) The R-46's were not assigned to the BMT eastern division but that didn't stop a special ERA fan trip from venturing there, unfortunately I didn't attend. Fresh Pond Rd [Myrtle Ave Line] (July 4, 1976) The flyover track at Broadway Jct is on the top ten best places for photos for years. (July 4, 1976) An (N) Sea Beach PM rush hour "put in" from Coney Island yard waits for the lineup at the Bay 50th St 'wye'. (July 1978) The ramp at the Culver line's Ditmas Ave at full 210mm telephoto looking more execrated than normal. My 80-210mm two touch-tele zoom lens was like a miniature mortar shell and weighed just as much ! (July 1978) Now for some Culver line action! Seen at 18th Ave, an (F) Culver Exp switches over to the express track at Ditmas Ave. (July 1978) An (F) local train switches over to the express track at Kings Hwy. which I believe is the last stop. (July 1978) An (F) Culver Exp switches over to the local track at Kings Hwy. The final destination should be Coney Island.(July 1978)) About three months after the previous Kings Hwy. photos on a clear rather than hazy day the Empire Bldg is more prominent. (October 1978) At the Forth Ave station, looking towards Smith-9th St on full telephoto. When I was young and riding the old (D) train I always wondered where that center fifth track went. (July 1978) At the Smith-9th St station when the Twin Towers commanded the skyline, a four car (GG) train approaches the station. (October 1978) Some twenty three years later, the (GG) is now the (G) Crosstown Local. If you look where the Twin Towers once stood, you'll see faint white smoke from the underground fires still burning at "ground zero" from September 11th. (November 2001) At the Brighton Line's Ave H station, I was doing some photography when this R-46 (N) appeared. Not a reroute, probably taking the scenic route to Coney Island yard. (July 1979) Before undergoing a total rebuild of Stillwell terminal, the employee crew room was getting makeover. A solitary R-10 [#3089) was set up a a temporary locker room from what I was told. (October 1979) An R-46 (N) on the Astoria line is approaching the Astoria Blvd station. (Oct. 7, 1979) South motor #993 [#6165] leads an (F) reroute to Lefferts Blvd at Liberty Jct. (June 1994) With a single track operation at the West 8th St station, #728 [#5638] is the south motor of an (F) train. (undated photo) COMING SOON........R-68's. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Jan 16 14:37:07 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 2, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jan 16 09:25:58 2022. Very cool |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jan 16 14:43:42 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 2, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jan 16 09:25:58 2022. Thanks. Especially the photo entering Fresh Pond. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jan 16 16:09:04 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 2, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jan 16 09:25:58 2022. That R46 N train near Astoria Blvd....I think 1987 is a better date for this pic. |
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Posted by R33WF on Sun Jan 16 22:41:16 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 2, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jan 16 09:26:23 2022. Bill Back in October 2020 I tried to replicate the photo you took in 1979 of Avenue H. The station may have been renovated but the angle is exactly the same. Taken during (N) via Brighton GO October 25, 2020 |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 17 06:45:51 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 2, posted by R33WF on Sun Jan 16 22:41:16 2022. It looks like in your photo a big tree or two was removed since I took my photo.
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Jan 17 13:08:33 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 2, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jan 16 09:25:58 2022. Awesome set of photos!!I heard (on this board, but I can't remember who posted it) years ago that the extra track on the Culver Viaduct was intended for a freight connection, and that at some point further down the line, they intended to make a connection to the SBK or LIRR. But that connection was never made, and the extra track was rarely used at all, and never for the purpose intended. It was eliminated in the viaduct rebuilt around 2010. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jan 17 13:27:35 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 2, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 17 06:45:51 2022. The missing trees probably fell on the roadbed and jacked up service. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 17 13:52:27 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-46 - Part 2, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Jan 17 13:08:33 2022. Awesome set of photos!!Thanks Mr. Main I heard (on this board, but I can't remember who posted it) years ago that the extra track on the Culver Viaduct was intended for a freight connection, and that at some point further down the line, they intended to make a connection to the SBK or LIRR. But that connection was never made, and the extra track was rarely used at all, and never for the purpose intended. It was eliminated in the viaduct rebuilt around 2010. The concrete viaduct at Smith-9th St & Fourth ave or the Culver EL ? Bill Newkirk |
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