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Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush) |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 13 19:09:25 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by jan k. lorenzen on Mon Nov 13 18:15:47 2017. When I worked for a manufacturing company near the Culver el in the mid 80's, shortly before demolition, a couple of adventurous young men tried to drive a "borrowed" car up one of the station staircases one weekend. Didn't get too far up the stairs. So they tried again at speed. Got a little higher up.Must have been a narrow car, those stair cases aren't that too wide. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Nov 13 20:33:46 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 13 10:53:14 2017. Wow... |
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Posted by murray1575 on Mon Nov 13 21:01:50 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by MainR3664 on Mon Nov 13 06:58:18 2017. I would think that the TA would have pulled up the rails and/or the ties for reuse (perhaps in the yards) or sold them for scrap before turning the structure over to the demolition contractor. Even the relatively short and narrow elevated trains could carry a lot more passengers than the bus services which replaced them. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Nov 14 13:54:08 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 13 10:53:14 2017. NICE! |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Nov 14 14:11:09 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 13 19:07:32 2017. Both, since in the station area they share many pillars or bents.Its somewhat like what they did at Queensboro Plaza. When the north half of the station was torn down, much leftover and unused supports & ironwork was left in place to maintain "structural integrity" of what was left up. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Nov 14 14:17:30 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by murray1575 on Mon Nov 13 21:01:50 2017. Ties and rails were still on the el remnant until the late 1990s. I saw them myself.I remember the first time I went out there- 7/3/89. I was amazed at how intact the structure still was- really an almost complete facility from Lewis Avenue north. And it stayed that way, probably till about 1998 or 1999. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Nov 14 14:19:02 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by MainR3664 on Tue Nov 14 14:17:30 2017. They just let the demolition contractor have at it. Look at Pic #2- there's ties, rails, and at least one signal still up there. |
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Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Tue Nov 14 14:28:13 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 13 19:09:25 2017. It was a big full sized mid-70's Buick I think. Smashed a bunch of stuff on the stair case which by then was abandoned, you could see it had rust deterioration already. Damaged staircase was then removed by front end loader bucket. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Nov 14 14:42:35 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Nov 13 17:50:17 2017. Although I am not a civil engineer, I fail to see how a structure above one that is in use would be needed to maintain any sort of structural integrity. Retaining the unused 3 Ave el platform at Gun Hill Rd is another matter since the abandoned potion of the structure is below the one still in use and would be needed to support the one above. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Nov 14 14:59:24 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by MainR3664 on Tue Nov 14 14:19:02 2017. When I first rode the Fkln Shuttle in either late 1958 or early 1959, the short portion of the Fulton St el structure that remained at Fkln Av still had all its ties and rails intact although extremely rusty. When I returned there about a year or so later, the rails and ties had been removed. |
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Posted by Bzuck on Tue Nov 14 15:21:59 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by randyo on Tue Nov 14 14:42:35 2017. I can understand keeping the structure above, but I was asking about a FULL BLOCK to the west kept as well. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Nov 14 16:02:55 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by Bzuck on Tue Nov 14 15:21:59 2017. I believe as was mentioned in another post that the structure is used to carry electrical cables from a substation to the eBway Bkln el. A similar situation in Manhattan existed but for a shorter period when the 3 Av el between 34 St and 42 St had to be kept up for a year after the 3 Av el ceased operations to supply power from a Manhattan el substation to the Flushing Line. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Nov 14 17:25:01 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by randyo on Tue Nov 14 16:02:55 2017. Did anyone ever have thoughts of running the M shuttle to the upper level station - maybe that's why they left the structure in place ? |
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Posted by subfan on Tue Nov 14 19:44:44 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by Joe V on Tue Nov 14 17:25:01 2017. I actually asked if that would have been a possibility now, when they're rebuilding the connector viaduct, we're it not for the structure now on the old platform. Nobody answered that question, but there are two issues - the first is that the el structure was built for narrower cars, so the platform edge would have to be cut back. The second is if the girder placement - further down the line, it wasn't only the platform edge that was too close, but the actual structural girders - which, if also the case at Broadway, would make it impossible to run B division cars to the upper level.Regards, subfan |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Nov 14 19:55:52 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by MainR3664 on Tue Nov 14 14:19:02 2017. That just re-enforces the thought that the city was in a hurry to rid Myrtle Ave of the el thus preventing any efforts to resurrect the service. Normal el destruction usually is the remove the tracks etc first before the acetlylene hits the iron. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Nov 14 21:01:21 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by randyo on Tue Nov 14 16:02:55 2017. After the 6th Ave el closed on 12/04/1938, the section above 53rd St, from 9th Ave to Broadway was kept to connect to the power station there.The Broadway-Brooklyn spur, from west of Marcy Ave to Broadway Ferry was kept primarily for the power cable connection from Kent Ave. Gate cars were also laid up there until August, 1927, when sufficient steel cars were found for rush-hour B'way-Bklyn service. Also, a section on Grand Ave, south of Myrtle, on the Lexington Ave el was kept up for the same reason. The underground-to-elevated power cable was about 2 blocks away on Grand. That portion of the Lex el was demolished, along with the Myrtle Ave el's Grand Ave station in early 1953. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue Nov 14 22:39:19 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by randyo on Tue Nov 14 14:59:24 2017. rode it and took a few black and white photos in the mid to late 60s. Have one picture of the orginal station house at the top of the steps. I've posted before, never went down to street level to photograph the structure. Wish I had. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Nov 15 14:11:04 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by Joe V on Tue Nov 14 17:25:01 2017. I'd wondered the same thing, especially since tracks remained in place until the late 1990s.But the GO that Joe Korman posted on his website shows pretty clearly that the TA abandoned the line all the way to the switches south of Central Avenue |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Nov 15 14:18:19 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave "el" Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Nov 9 16:14:56 2017. The Flatbush Ave Viaduct looks newer than the rest of the Myrtle Ave El. Was it built during the Dual Contracts? |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Nov 15 15:18:20 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Nov 15 14:18:19 2017. The Flatbush Ave Viaduct looks newer than the rest of the Myrtle Ave El. Was it built during the Dual Contracts?Here's the story about that arch span over Flatbush Ave. When the Myrtle Ave el was built, there was no Flatbush Ave underneath it. Flatbush Ave at that time ended at Fulton St.. Then Flatbush Ave Extension was built when the Manhattan Bridge opened. In the years when Flatbush Ave Ext was carrying vehicular traffic, there were accidents involving cars hitting the el pillars that were in the middle of Flatbush Ave Ext. Around 1932 or 33, the arch span that was featured in my photos was built to eliminate the el pillars in the street. This reconstruction was done while Myrtle and Lexington Ave el service was ongoing with motorman told to proceed at a slow speed in the construction area. If that was today, the line would be shut down and bustituted. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Wed Nov 15 15:23:02 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Nov 15 14:18:19 2017. The original Myrtle el structure in that area dated to 1888.The Flatbush Ave. viaduct structure was erected sometime around 1914 or '15. . When Flatbush Ave was extended from Fulton St. to the then new Manhattan Bridge (hence "Flatbush Ave. Extension") in 1909, and it was soon discovered that them new fangled auto-mobiles, lorry trucks and probably bicycles would collide into the original 1888 pillars that were in the middle of the roadways. There are some photos online (I think NYPL) of the construction of the Flatbush Ave Ext viaduct being built and some others in the Transit Museum collection of the reconstruction at Navy St. structure in 1944 to remove the remainder of the old main line structure and add structure to remove a pillar and also at Vanderbilt Ave. structure in the 40's to remove pillars from the intersecting roadways. |
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Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Wed Nov 15 15:42:25 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by jan k. lorenzen on Wed Nov 15 15:23:02 2017. There's a photo online of the Manhattan Bridge 3 Cent Line terminal at Fulton St. looking north with the old Myrtle structure still in place, and a later photo of the new structure while the MB3CL was still running. Since the MB3CL's new cars were delivered beginning in 1914 and that line's closure was in 1929, the viaduct was built between those dates. When I find more definition, I'll post. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Nov 15 16:00:31 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Nov 15 15:18:20 2017. The 2nd Ave el at Allen & Delancey Sts had a similar bridge type structure. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Nov 15 16:43:04 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by jan k. lorenzen on Wed Nov 15 15:23:02 2017. Didn't have Jersey barriers, guard rails, and energy absorbing sand bags back then, did they ? |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Nov 15 17:03:23 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by subfan on Tue Nov 14 19:44:44 2017. The structural girders at Bway/Myrtle upper were different from the ones at the other Myrtle stations between there and Bridge St so that wouldn’t have been an issue. The structural girders at the other stations were built the way they were to allow for the staircases from the platform to the street. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Nov 15 17:15:03 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by Elkeeper on Wed Nov 15 16:00:31 2017. 
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Nov 15 18:32:04 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by randyo on Wed Nov 15 17:03:23 2017. I'll go with the theory that they were not so ruthless to tear down the part down to Lewis Street should operations had ever wanted to send the M shuttle there instead and not disrupt Bway/Jamaica trains with at-grade crossings.With escalators and escalators, there is some merit to it. Imagine if they had done so as they rebuild the Cut. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Nov 15 18:37:17 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Nov 15 15:18:20 2017. They did just about everything in those days while keeping full service. The show must go on! |
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Posted by subfan on Wed Nov 15 18:55:00 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by randyo on Wed Nov 15 17:03:23 2017. Then it's too bad they didn't cut back the platform edges so regular B division equipment could use it as a terminal. That would have been useful in general when the M wasn't running through, as it would have eliminated the need for an at-grade merge, and would have been particularly useful now, when it could have allowed a direct connection with Manhattan-bound trains while the viaduct is being rebuilt.subfan |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Nov 15 21:10:08 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Nov 15 17:15:03 2017. Still great!! |
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Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Wed Nov 15 23:51:04 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by MainR3664 on Wed Nov 15 14:11:04 2017. I remember the remaining track going all the way to the switches, the switches were removed right after service on the old Myrtle ended. Track was there into the 90's. I think it was removed only after neighborhood folks complained that old track parts and other crap was falling off the el and hitting people and their cars. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Thu Nov 16 01:52:27 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by jan k. lorenzen on Wed Nov 15 15:23:02 2017. Joe Brennan has a photo on his abandoned Myrtle Ave page showing the street and subway construction, with two sets of pillars underneath the Myrtle el. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Nov 16 07:15:58 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by jan k. lorenzen on Wed Nov 15 23:51:04 2017. This pic from 2007(!) shows the walkway and ties (can't see if the rails are there or not) on the Jay St.-bound trackway.https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?72956 This one, from 1994, shows what you describe- everything in place except the switches: https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?127891 Sorry about the lousy job linking... |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Nov 16 07:21:47 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Nov 14 19:55:52 2017. That does seem to be the case. Considering how a whole section of Brooklyn lost service, I'm amazed there weren't meaningful protests against this. I think one or two small groups said something, but that was it. OTOH, look how community pressure saved the Franklin Shuttle. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Nov 16 07:46:39 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by MainR3664 on Thu Nov 16 07:21:47 2017. The MTA always knew which areas of the city were politically impotent.Maybe because of this, the 3rd Av el, pre-mature demolition of the Jamacia el decimating ridership on the whole line, threatening to kill east of ENY or Crescent Street, RPA's plans in the 1980's to tear down els all over the city that got press coverage, and years of distrust of MTA in general, people were on-guard for the Franklin shuttle. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Nov 16 08:12:11 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by MainR3664 on Thu Nov 16 07:15:58 2017.  This one, from 1994, shows what you describe- everything in place except the switches: 
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Nov 16 08:15:40 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by jan k. lorenzen on Wed Nov 15 23:51:04 2017.  Line: BMT Myrtle Avenue Line...Location: Broadway/Myrtle Avenue (Upper Level)... Car: BMT Elevated Gate Car... Collection of: George Conrad Collection...Date: 8/30/1948...from nycsubway.org |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Nov 16 08:18:28 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by K. Trout on Thu Nov 16 01:52:27 2017. 
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 16 12:02:03 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by Joe V on Wed Nov 15 16:43:04 2017. Those would take up even more space and lead to more congestion. Not to mention the congestion from the aftermath of the collision with the guard rails or sand bags.I hate those els where the columns are in the street, unlike the Flushing Line. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 16 12:22:26 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by MainR3664 on Thu Nov 16 07:21:47 2017. Considering how a whole section of Brooklyn lost service, I'm amazed there weren't meaningful protests against this.There were. But since the protesters weren't white, nobody listened. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Thu Nov 16 12:27:28 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by randyo on Tue Nov 14 14:59:24 2017. I remember that too. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 16 13:42:17 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by Joe V on Thu Nov 16 07:46:39 2017. The issue with the Jamaica El was the thought that getting rid of it would actually improve an area that was in decline. There the community even advocated for it. And then the opposite happened, the community went further into decline after the loss as it's link was destroyed. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 16 13:43:52 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 16 12:22:26 2017. What a crock of shit.The area around it was unfortunately in decline, and the population was decreasing so no one cared. Els were also seen as a blight on a neighborhood as opposed to an asset. It was a different thinking than now. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 16 13:49:10 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by MainR3664 on Wed Nov 15 14:11:04 2017. The switches were ripped out long before the 1980's. But that was probably because the tracks were redone some time in the early 80's on the M part of the line. I don't know if they were ripped out prior to the M's running tracks being replaced in the early 80's.The tracks did remain until the early to mid 90's on the incline, at least into the Broadway station upstairs. It was around the early 90's that they ripped up the upper platform and replaced it with that structure that is there now. Until that point, right into the late 80's and very early 90's, the upstairs station was completely intact, right down to the signs themselves. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 16 13:50:03 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 16 13:43:52 2017. I see he got PW3NT again! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 16 13:52:49 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Nov 16 08:12:11 2017. The second photo is how I remembered it right through the mid 90's. The Metro bound track was removed somewhat prior to the other side. They were all gone very soon after the top photo. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 16 13:55:54 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Nov 15 18:37:17 2017. Yes, amazing! The entire Broadway El, the Myrtle between Wyckoff and Broadway, and the Fulton El between Franklin and Atlantic were entirely rebuilt in place, and realigned from two tracks to three, and stations rebuilt, all while service continued to roll. And with 1910's technology and equipment no less. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Nov 16 13:59:00 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by randyo on Tue Nov 14 14:59:24 2017. I wish I'd have know about the Fulton remnant standing there so long. I'd definitely have gone to see it. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 16 14:11:02 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by randyo on Tue Nov 14 14:59:24 2017. The fancy railings and some other features did remain into the early 90's there, until the shuttle was rebuilt. I only saw it once before it was closed down for the reconstruction. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 16 14:42:57 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Myrtle Ave ''el'' Comes Down (Myrtle & Flatbush), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 16 13:43:52 2017. I was going to point out that you're full of shit as usual, but I doubt it would do any good.After all, you are a self-confessed white supremacist. You have stated that you think racial equality is, in your own words, "nonsense and propaganda." And in numerous previous threads, you have demonstrated that your reading comprehension is so poor that you are functionally illiterate. Your diseased brain is in dire need of some percussive maintenance that I am unfortunately unable to provide over the internet. Perhaps you should take a moment to ponder the life choices that led you to this pitiable condition where your sense of self-worth is entirely contingent on believing that having pale skin makes you inherently superior despite your complete lack of personal success, social contribution, or community standing. |
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