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Re: W to Astoria/N and Q to 96th Street? |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Wed Feb 10 11:06:03 2016, in response to Re: W to Astoria/N and Q to 96th Street?, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Feb 8 12:54:45 2016. Is this the plan or just a rumor, and if it is fact, does that mean the "N" will no longer go to Queensboro Plaza and Astoria? |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Feb 10 11:07:53 2016, in response to Re: W to Astoria/N and Q to 96th Street?, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Wed Feb 10 11:06:03 2016. It is neither a plan nor a rumor. The N will still go to Queensboro Plaza and Astoria. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 10 11:09:12 2016, in response to Re: W to Astoria/N and Q to 96th Street?, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Wed Feb 10 11:06:03 2016. It's tried and true SubChat speculation. |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Wed Feb 10 11:11:31 2016, in response to Re: W to Astoria/N and Q to 96th Street?, posted by Chris3117 on Tue Feb 9 19:50:27 2016. Just keep the Sea Beach on the Manny B and out of that damn Montague rat hole tunnel. |
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Re: N and W to Astoria/ Q to 96th Street! |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Feb 10 12:04:09 2016, in response to Re: N and W to Astoria/ Q to 96th Street!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Feb 9 21:38:54 2016. NOPE(Q) and (N) to 96th St. 63rd Street = EXPRESS = Bridge (R) Astoria to 95th Street (RR) Astoria to Ninth Avenue (W) 71st to Whitehall via Bway LCL (M) 71st to Metropolitan via 6th 60th Street = LOCAL = Tunnel ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Feb 10 12:06:56 2016, in response to Re: W to Astoria/N and Q to 96th Street?, posted by randyo on Tue Feb 9 20:16:17 2016. So then run ALL of the (R) trains to 95th Street.Fumigate OOS (R)S at WHITEHALL, then run them light to Ninth. IN AM put in extra (R) trains at 36th Street. ROAR |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Feb 10 12:38:25 2016, in response to Re: N and W to Astoria/ Q to 96th Street!, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Feb 10 12:04:09 2016. But that is not what is going to happen, however much you complain about it. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Feb 10 13:34:12 2016, in response to Re: N and W to Astoria/ Q to 96th Street!, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Feb 10 12:04:09 2016. Ridiculous.ROAR ROAR ROAR |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Feb 10 15:04:00 2016, in response to Re: W to Astoria/N and Q to 96th Street?, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Feb 10 12:06:56 2016. Whitehall is the last place you would want to fumigate any S/B trains since that is one of the heaviest load points on the BMT Southern Division and again that would only exacerbate the situation for Bay Ridge passengers. Full service to 95 St is a non negotiable MUST!!!!! |
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Posted by zac on Wed Feb 10 18:09:37 2016, in response to Re: N and W to Astoria/ Q to 96th Street!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Feb 9 21:38:54 2016. If I had to wait 6 minutes at the least while going to work, you're right. I'd just take the 4/5/6, especially from 86th St. That's the problem.My guess is the service will be more frequent than the Q is now, just to get people to use it. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Feb 10 18:30:51 2016, in response to Re: N and W to Astoria/ Q to 96th Street!, posted by zac on Wed Feb 10 18:09:37 2016. Then you have more Q trains than B trains in Brooklyn............B riders bitch. |
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Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Fri Feb 12 08:40:54 2016, in response to N and W to Astoria/ Q to 96th Street!, posted by R30A on Tue Feb 9 20:15:43 2016. Are you still turning Q's AM or starting them PM at 57th St?N's have some put ins there too. |
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Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Fri Feb 12 08:41:53 2016, in response to Re: N and W to Astoria/ Q to 96th Street!, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Fri Feb 12 08:40:54 2016. Ok that was dumb question, need to get coffee.... |
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Posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Fri Feb 12 09:15:28 2016, in response to Re: N and W to Astoria/ Q to 96th Street!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Feb 10 18:30:51 2016. Simple solution: Substitute some Q diamonds for Bs. |
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Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Fri Feb 19 10:59:57 2016, in response to Re: W to Astoria/N and Q to 96th Street?, posted by randyo on Sun Jan 3 18:48:58 2016. Its pretty much the same thing today on the 7....... |
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Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Fri Feb 19 11:04:03 2016, in response to Re: W to Astoria/N and Q to 96th Street?, posted by randyo on Sun Jan 3 20:53:28 2016. Its still SOP to send a M or R past 71st Av if there's a huge delay in Jamaica bound E/F service.... |
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Its Offical: W train returning |
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Posted by twarrior3dc on Fri Feb 19 12:16:26 2016, in response to W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by SI 93 on Sun Dec 20 10:21:41 2015. LINK" |
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Posted by twarrior3dc on Fri Feb 19 12:18:11 2016, in response to Its Offical: W train returning, posted by twarrior3dc on Fri Feb 19 12:16:26 2016. Though I can't find the release that Ben uses in his article... |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Feb 19 12:30:33 2016, in response to Re: Its Official: W train returning, posted by twarrior3dc on Fri Feb 19 12:18:11 2016. Though I can't find the release that Ben uses in his article...He has special access. |
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Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Feb 19 12:32:24 2016, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Dec 20 13:29:01 2015. That is a year a way. Even if they tell you anything today they will surely change it before the line opens. And then, once it does open, they will make more changes because the people who run and plan the MTA are not as far sighted as your LION.!As usual, you were incorrect. They apparently announced only two months after you made your ignorant post. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 19 12:36:03 2016, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Feb 19 12:32:24 2016. Ha. You need to bookmark this. You can't be sure they won't make changes until the SAS actually opens and the W is running exactly as promised. :) |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Feb 19 12:37:29 2016, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by AlM on Fri Feb 19 12:36:03 2016. Agreed. But the LY'IN implied that we for sure wouldn't hear anything about this until much closer to the opening of the StubWay. He was wrong about that, as usual. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Feb 19 12:42:39 2016, in response to Its Offical: W train returning, posted by twarrior3dc on Fri Feb 19 12:16:26 2016. Guessing they have the rolling stock!I think they should look into a way for the W to more effectively help the R with servicing Bay Ridge. I imagine the special Ws to Sea Beach will be back for the sake of yard access. I wonder if they can send some Ws in lieu of some Rs past Whitehall to Bay Ridge, though only if there's a way to do that while maintaining or increasing reliability. On paper the W should be more dependable than the R, so any Ws that come to Brooklyn should help, even if it is at the cost of some Rs. JAM would have to send some cars to CI. But at least we have a direction for our rumors / ideas to go in now, so long as this report is accurate. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 19 12:42:48 2016, in response to Its Offical: W train returning, posted by twarrior3dc on Fri Feb 19 12:16:26 2016. OK, Subchat, so what about all the claims that there aren't any cars available to do this?They've just promised an estimated extra 6 tph between Whitehall and 57th. That requires 50 cars that aren't supposed to exist. And then when the SAS opens they need even more cars that don't exist to extend the Q to 96th. |
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Posted by BenYankee on Fri Feb 19 12:43:57 2016, in response to Re: Its Official: W train returning, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Feb 19 12:30:33 2016. I'll drop in a link somewhere when it's live on the MTA's site. They sent out word this morning at around 11. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 19 12:44:36 2016, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Feb 19 12:37:29 2016. And his dream that all Broadway express service must run to 96th while all local service runs to 60th street will have to wait another few decades. :) |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Feb 19 12:50:57 2016, in response to Re: Its Official: W train returning, posted by BenYankee on Fri Feb 19 12:43:57 2016. They sent out word this morning at around 11.Yeah they're sneaky like that. I'll drop in a link somewhere when it's live on the MTA's site.Thank you. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Fri Feb 19 13:02:35 2016, in response to Re: Its Official: W train returning, posted by BenYankee on Fri Feb 19 12:43:57 2016. MTA Proposes Bringing Back W Line |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 19 13:10:33 2016, in response to Its Offical: W train returning, posted by twarrior3dc on Fri Feb 19 12:16:26 2016. Nobody can find the alleged press release. |
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PRESS RELEASE Re: It's Offical? W train returning |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Fri Feb 19 13:11:15 2016, in response to Re: It's Offical? W train returning, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 19 13:10:33 2016. W PRESS RELEASE |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Feb 19 13:11:22 2016, in response to Re: Its Offical: W train returning, posted by AlM on Fri Feb 19 12:42:48 2016. 2 of the trainsets will come from the Q. It should take 10 minutes less time to go from 57th to 96th/2nd than from 57th to Astoria.Current travel time from 57th to Astoria on the Q is 20 minutes. It's 10 minutes between Grand Central and 96th on the 6. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Fri Feb 19 13:16:20 2016, in response to Re: Its Offical: W train returning, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Feb 19 13:11:22 2016. What if the headway on the Q is decreased? |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 19 13:21:06 2016, in response to Re: Its Offical: W train returning, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Feb 19 13:11:22 2016. 2 of the trainsets will come from the Q.Yes, the train sets needed to go from 57th to Astoria will come from the Q. But I only estimated the extra train sets needed to go from Whitehall to 57th, not Whitehall to Astoria. The former is about a 50 minute round trip, so 6 tph will require 5 train sets. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 19 13:27:09 2016, in response to Re: Its Offical: W train returning, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Feb 19 13:11:22 2016. But even if the q doesn't go to astoria anymore, the w will, so you are still adding the length of a route from Whitehall to 57th, as you still will need the q running the length from lower Manhattan to 57th also. So even if the q will need less trains from 96th to 57th than it needed from Astoria to 56th, that train or two will cover Astoria to Whitehall? |
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Posted by caine515 on Fri Feb 19 14:32:04 2016, in response to Re: Its Offical: W train returning, posted by AlM on Fri Feb 19 12:42:48 2016. Pull some "Q" for now that would have been assigned to Astoria to go on the "W". By the time the 2nd Ave 🚇 is open the "L" shutdown could occur..there are your extra cars |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Feb 19 14:33:10 2016, in response to Re: Its Offical: W train returning, posted by AlM on Fri Feb 19 13:21:06 2016. But I only estimated the extra train sets needed to go from Whitehall to 57th, not Whitehall to AstoriaServes me right for not double checking your numbers. :=) |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 19 14:41:10 2016, in response to Re: Its Offical: W train returning, posted by caine515 on Fri Feb 19 14:32:04 2016. The SAS is supposed to open this year (lol)....the L could be a few years. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 19 14:47:44 2016, in response to Re: Its Offical: W train returning, posted by caine515 on Fri Feb 19 14:32:04 2016. Pull some "Q" for now that would have been assigned to Astoria to go on the "W".I already did that. The shift of Qs covers the cars needed for the W to get from 57th to Astoria. More cars are needed to get the W from Whitehall to 57th. Those are the 50 cars that various Subchatters claim don't exist. |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Feb 19 15:49:40 2016, in response to Re: Its Offical: W train returning, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Feb 19 12:42:39 2016. Send the W to 9th Avenue or 62nd Street to replace the M service lost. |
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Re: PRESS RELEASE Re: It's Offal? W train returning |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 19 18:14:00 2016, in response to PRESS RELEASE Re: It's Offical? W train returning, posted by Union Tpke on Fri Feb 19 13:11:15 2016. So they're holding a hearing. That makes it clearer.The Q ought not stop serving Queens, methinks. |
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TWarrior3DC, That is Great News, W train returning |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 19 18:15:55 2016, in response to Re: Its Offical: W train returning, posted by SLRT on Fri Feb 19 15:49:40 2016. Lots of great ideas in store. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Feb 19 19:05:39 2016, in response to Re: Its Offical: W train returning, posted by AlM on Fri Feb 19 14:47:44 2016. The 50 cars will come via a lower spare factor from the yards. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Feb 19 19:06:49 2016, in response to Re: Its Offical: W train returning, posted by SLRT on Fri Feb 19 15:49:40 2016. If we only had the cars..... |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 19 19:19:58 2016, in response to Re: Its Offical: W train returning, posted by AlM on Fri Feb 19 14:47:44 2016. When the killed the W, which consumed 10 train sets, they extended the Q, which cost them 5 trainsets. So I suppose they now need 5 trainsets from somewhere. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 19 19:22:02 2016, in response to Re: Its Offical: W train returning, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Feb 19 19:05:39 2016. Sure hope they have enough #2 pencils in stock for all those ABD's. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 19 19:23:32 2016, in response to Re: Its Offical: W train returning, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Feb 19 19:06:49 2016. Problem solved! :)
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Feb 19 19:34:26 2016, in response to Re: Its Offical: W train returning, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 19 19:23:32 2016. Dont uou really mean "cattle cars"? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 19 19:39:21 2016, in response to Re: Its Offical: W train returning, posted by Edwards! on Fri Feb 19 19:34:26 2016. Wouldn't they need to put the seats back in them? ;)
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 19 19:53:25 2016, in response to Re: Its Offical: W train returning, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Feb 19 19:05:39 2016. I suppose as a part time service, it will get R68's, and more likelihood of R160's on the D. |
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Posted by SI 93 on Fri Feb 19 20:09:23 2016, in response to Re: Its Offical: W train returning, posted by Edwards! on Fri Feb 19 19:34:26 2016. The W train must be extended to Brooklyn prehaps terminating at 9th Av. |
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