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Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 22 20:48:44 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Dec 22 20:21:37 2015. They absolutely do, just to keep the grease from crusting up. :) |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Dec 22 21:58:12 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 22 20:48:44 2015. Just dont mess with thjem during the rush hours!ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Dec 22 21:58:49 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 22 20:48:44 2015. Mine dont frees up that way, and some of them have not been moved all year.ROAR |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 22 22:48:32 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Dec 22 21:58:12 2015. During rush, I believe they have orders to shoot to maim even on the MTA. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 22 22:53:52 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Dec 22 21:58:49 2015. Yours are newer than prewar though. Newer stuff went NX. :) |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Dec 22 23:21:55 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 22 18:32:22 2015. so if the fluorescent tubesare simply swapped out for LEDs you willneedsunshades |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Dec 23 15:04:46 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Dec 20 12:01:16 2015. Didn't the "QT", "RR", and "T" share the 60th St tunnel during rush hours? |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Dec 23 16:01:18 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 22 22:53:52 2015. Correct. The entire Bway Subway is NX, controlled from City Hall Master Tower although there are satellite towers with mini levers at Lex, 57, 34, and Whitehall. |
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Posted by VictorM on Wed Dec 23 16:33:28 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 22 18:37:30 2015. The 2010 service cuts were to save money, which means fewer trains and therefore a higher spare factor. If they reduce the spare factor to what it was before the service cuts, they would need only four additional train sets to extend the Q to 96/2 at the same frequency they had in 2010. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Dec 23 16:42:53 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Elkeeper on Wed Dec 23 15:04:46 2015. Yes. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Dec 23 16:47:59 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by randyo on Wed Dec 23 16:42:53 2015. So, what's the problem with 3 routes sharing the 60th St tunnel? Come to think of it, the "QT", "RR" and "TT" shared the Montague tunnel, as well. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Dec 23 17:04:42 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by VictorM on Wed Dec 23 16:33:28 2015. You are making the assumption that they have the cars still. |
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Posted by VictorM on Wed Dec 23 17:19:25 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by R30A on Wed Dec 23 17:04:42 2015. The last of the R160's went into service just before the 2010 service cuts. By then, all the older cars they had replaced were gone. They had enough new cars to completely fill out the N,the Q and the W, except possibly for a handful of R68's or R68A's which are still running. None of the R160's has been retired. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Dec 23 17:35:52 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by VictorM on Wed Dec 23 17:19:25 2015. Some R32s and R42s, and all R44s in service then are no longer around. |
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Posted by VictorM on Wed Dec 23 17:42:54 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by R30A on Wed Dec 23 17:35:52 2015. The R32's were kept to make up for the R44's early retirement. The 32's and the 42's run on the C and the J/Z in 8 car sets. This (and the 8 car R160 sets) has nothing to do with the N, Q or W. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Dec 23 18:05:53 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by VictorM on Wed Dec 23 17:42:54 2015. Not all of them.222 R32s remain, 50 R42s remain, for a total of 272 cars, which is exactly how many R44s were intended to be kept. However, when you account for the fact that 272 R44s makes the same number of trains as 340 R32/R42s, there is a not insubstantial loss! |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Dec 23 18:20:21 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by VictorM on Wed Dec 23 16:33:28 2015. You are not seeing this through clearly.We are talking about the W and it requires 10 train sets, Astoria - Whitehall. Diverting the Q to SAS is quite irrelevant. It will require the same number of train sets as now. |
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Posted by VictorM on Wed Dec 23 18:22:36 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by R30A on Wed Dec 23 18:05:53 2015. Yes, they probably were hoping they could run full length (600 ft trains) on the C but they couldn't so they had to settle for 480 ft trains. If they plan to increase C service they're going to have to increase the utilzation factor of the remaining R32's. I agree if there is a further delay in the R179 order it could cause a car shortage when the SAS "stubway" opens. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Dec 23 18:32:14 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Elkeeper on Wed Dec 23 16:47:59 2015. How many trains per hour through each tunnel did they operate ?How much degradation to capacity did eliminating key-by do ? |
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Posted by VictorM on Wed Dec 23 18:48:04 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Joe V on Wed Dec 23 18:20:21 2015. 57 St to Ditmars and back is 40 minutes. 57 St to 96/2 and back will be approx 16 minutes. That saves 24 minutes - enough for a substantial reduction in the number of W trains needed. On the other hand if they plan to increase Q service when SAS opens there could be a definite equipment shortage. A lot also depends on the utilization factor. I think at the present about 15% of the NTT cars are out for maintenance, inspection etc. If that could be reduced it would help. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 23 19:02:28 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Joe V on Wed Dec 23 18:32:14 2015. How many trains per hour through each tunnel did they operate ?They operated 29 tph through Montague St in 1954 and 30 tph in 1949. The corresponding figures for 60th St are before the 11th St Cut became operational. They ran 18 and 19 tph from Astoria. If it's assumed that that Astoria service was not reduced, then the service level would have been 29 tph immediately after BMT service from Forest Hills was introduced. How much degradation to capacity did eliminating key-by do ? None. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Dec 24 09:35:17 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by R30A on Wed Dec 23 17:35:52 2015. The R40 slants too. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Dec 24 09:37:25 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Dec 24 09:35:17 2015. Sorry, they were gone in 2009. My mistake. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 24 10:51:47 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by VictorM on Wed Dec 23 18:48:04 2015. The W would run to Astoria.If you are saying the Q will save 2 train sets if diverted to SAS, then you still need 8 more train sets, net. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 24 11:08:21 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 23 19:02:28 2015. The TA says Cranberry capacity is down to 26 TPH.People were saying that is because they got rid of key-by. But then the 60th Street tunnel does better than 26 TPH every day |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Dec 24 12:45:52 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 24 11:08:21 2015. Here's what they are putting into Cranberry St from Jay St"arrival_time";"route_id";"destination";"original_departure_time";"departed_from";"travel_time";"headway" "08:04:30";"A";"DYCKMAN ST";"07:33:00";"A65N";"Ozone Park - Lefferts Blvd";"00:31:30";"00:02:00" "08:06:30";"A";"INWOOD - 207 ST";"07:13:00";"H11N";"Far Rockaway - Mott Av";"00:53:30";"00:02:00" "08:08:30";"A";"INWOOD - 207 ST";"07:18:30";"H15N";"Rockaway Park - Beach 116 St";"00:50:00";"00:02:00" "08:10:30";"C";"168 ST";"07:45:30";"A55N";"Euclid Av";"00:25:00";"00:02:00" Here's what's coming out at Fulton (ex Bway-Nassau) "08:10:30";"A";"DYCKMAN ST";"07:33:00";"A65N";"Ozone Park - Lefferts Blvd";"00:37:30";"00:02:00" "08:12:30";"A";"INWOOD - 207 ST";"07:13:00";"H11N";"Far Rockaway - Mott Av";"00:59:30";"00:02:00" "08:14:30";"A";"INWOOD - 207 ST";"07:18:30";"H15N";"Rockaway Park - Beach 116 St";"00:56:00";"00:02:00" "08:16:30";"C";"168 ST";"07:45:30";"A55N";"Euclid Av";"00:31:00";"00:02:00" They have no problem operating 30 tph over short intervals. They have problems supplying a sufficient number of trains to maintain 30 tph over a longer interval. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 24 12:46:56 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 24 11:08:21 2015. But then the 60th Street tunnel does better than 26 TPH every dayReally? Not all Q and N trains from Brooklyn go to Astoria. Some turn at 57th. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Thu Dec 24 14:04:03 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by AlM on Thu Dec 24 12:46:56 2015. Those N and Q trains technically do not turn. They drop out to lay up after the AM rush and turn for PM rush hour service. They drop out because they are not needed for another trip out of Astoria on the AM shoulder. |
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Posted by Hamilton Express on Thu Dec 24 15:16:12 2015, in response to W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by SI 93 on Sun Dec 20 10:21:41 2015. Even though no official info has come out, here's what I think how this service restoration is gonna go down.The (W) will run it's usual Astoria-Whitehall route, but on rush hours runs to Coney Island via Sea Beach. It would most likely run local under 4th Avenue. It may also run on weekends or late nights between 57th Street-Whitehall Street (since in recent months there's been an increase in late night ridership. For the cars, it would mainly get the R68's and R160's, the exact type of fleet it was before the 2010 discontinuation. I would say in the long run it would get the R179's and R211's. For the (Q) overall, I think it would get more R68/R68A's or maybe even a R46 (but I doubt this ever gonna happen). Anyways, that's just my thoughts on this. |
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Posted by Hamilton Express on Thu Dec 24 15:16:12 2015, in response to W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by SI 93 on Sun Dec 20 10:21:41 2015. Even though no official info has come out, here's what I think how this service restoration is gonna go down.The (W) will run it's usual Astoria-Whitehall route, but on rush hours runs to Coney Island via Sea Beach. It would most likely run local under 4th Avenue. It may also run on weekends or late nights between 57th Street-Whitehall Street (since in recent months there's been an increase in late night ridership. For the cars, it would mainly get the R68's and R160's, the exact type of fleet it was before the 2010 discontinuation. I would say in the long run it would get the R179's and R211's. For the (Q) overall, I think it would get more R68/R68A's or maybe even a R46 (but I doubt this ever gonna happen). Anyways, that's just my thoughts on this. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 24 15:22:20 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Hamilton Express on Thu Dec 24 15:16:12 2015. Do SAS stations get platform doors ? |
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Posted by Hamilton Express on Thu Dec 24 15:26:37 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 24 15:22:20 2015. No. If you want platform doors, you have to make sure that the train is in the correct position.This is obviously seen in a ton of transport systems worldwide (Hong Kong, Jubilee Line of the London Underground, most of the subway systems of China). |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Dec 24 18:47:11 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Hamilton Express on Thu Dec 24 15:16:12 2015. There would be no reason to have a completely new route to CI via the sea Beach. The only reason for an additional service to Astoria would be to handle rush hour crowds that the N can’t handle on its own. Otherwise the W really only needs to be a M - F rush hour only service. If it should happen that ridership can be handles by adding an extra N or two in the rush rather than reestablishing an entirely new line, then that’s what will likely be done. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Dec 24 18:51:39 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Hamilton Express on Thu Dec 24 15:26:37 2015. Not only that but before platform doors are considered, all cars on the respective divisions have to be exactly the same dimensions which means that perform doors cannot be considered until the very last 75 ft car is permanently removed from service. It’s interesting that there are people who are pressing to have the NYCTS install platform doors, yet I haven’t heard any pressure for the other major transit systems in the US to do the same even though the newer systems like DC, Baltimore, Atlanta, Bart and LA could probably have done so from their beginnings. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Dec 24 19:00:21 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by randyo on Thu Dec 24 18:51:39 2015. and in BART's case, door locations will change when the new fleet on order shows up. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Thu Dec 24 21:06:00 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by randyo on Thu Dec 24 18:47:11 2015. Astoria trains are jam packed during rush hours with N and Q trains serving Astoria.Any reduction in service frequency would be both operationally and politically impossible. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Dec 24 22:01:37 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by randyo on Thu Dec 24 18:51:39 2015. Actually, things have changed. There's now a technology known as Dokodemo Saku or "adjustable doors". |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Dec 25 07:09:53 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by randyo on Thu Dec 24 18:51:39 2015. And that will always be an issue.It's just many other systems have not had the large number of idiots and others who get on the tracks, surf trains and so forth. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Dec 25 07:12:39 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Hamilton Express on Thu Dec 24 15:16:12 2015. If you're going to run the (W) late nights and NOT run it to Astroia, I would run it to 96th/2nd to supplement the (Q) when not running to Astoria in this setup. Given the dense population of the upper east side, it likely would be warranted (same reason why I would consider if you can't have the (M) run to 71-Continental during CBTC work on weekends running it to 96th/2nd then and late nights once the SAS opens). |
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Posted by Michael549 on Fri Dec 25 12:44:07 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by randyo on Thu Dec 24 18:51:39 2015. Is this one of those times when something appears to be a good idea, but is really a boon-doggle in disguise, because it is really about making a huge amount of money for a company somewhere?Given the huge variety of "subway stations" - underground, elevated, on the ground, as well as the different configurations of stations, etc. ------------ First they came for the close end-doors, and I said nothing. Then they came for the token and subway clerks, and I said nothing. Then they killed various subway routes, and I said nothing. Next they came for the rail-fan window, and I said nothing. It seems that they won't stop until subway riders travel about in computer controlled hermetically sealed tubes that must show constant advertising glued to our eye-balls as on of the prices for transit. Mike |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Dec 25 16:16:45 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Dj Hammers on Thu Dec 24 21:06:00 2015. Operatins planning will send out its staff of traffic checkers to assess the ridership volume and then forward the results to scheduling for appropriate action. If ridership warrants, then the W could be resurrected. The way you are describing it, it seems that Astoria ridership is approaching levels of Qns Blvd and as high as Astoria ridership make have gotten, I find it hard to believe that it is anywhere near Qns Blvd levels. Also, where is the ridership coming from. I don’t recall seeing any major building taking place along that corridor since the time when 8 car trains of 60 footers operated there so I don’t understand why 600 ft trains with a decreased headway couldn’t handle the loads. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 25 16:31:27 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by randyo on Fri Dec 25 16:16:45 2015. Also, where is the ridership coming from. I don’t recall seeing any major building taking place along that corridor since the time when 8 car trains of 60 footers operated there so I don’t understand why 600 ft trains with a decreased headway couldn’t handle the loads.Increasingly, people who live in Astoria are Midtown white collar office workers. So the same population is accompanied by a rise in subway usage. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Dec 25 16:33:41 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Dj Hammers on Thu Dec 24 21:06:00 2015. And I remember those days when the (RR) handled Astoria as you mentioned just fine (early 1980s).What I believe happened with Astoria was you had a major change in the kind of population there just since 1990, especially as Manhattan became more and more expensive and those who replaced those who were there in the '80s are much more transit-savvy and not afraid to ride the trains. That's why one thing I would consider is this: (W) runs from 9th Avenue (possibly even extended to Bay Parkway or Coney Island via West End rush hours) to Astoria at all times, running rush hours as many trains as can fit after the regularly scheduled run of (R) trains through Montauge and 60th Street. Both the (R) and (W) would be local. (N) and (Q) both run at all times to 96th Street/2nd Avenue with if needed a limited number of trains during rush-hours short-turned at 57th Street. This would be express at all times except possibly late nights. Having both the (N) and (Q) go to 96th/2nd would likely really make the SAS attractive since then it would really take pressure off the (6). |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Dec 25 17:31:15 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by randyo on Fri Dec 25 16:16:45 2015. Here are some figures from the 1998 and 2014 Hub Bound Reports regarding the number of inbound passengers through the 60th St Tunnel.1998 8-9am: 22,722; 7-10am: 53,274; 24 hr: 116,139 2014 8-9am: 26,473; 7-10am: 60,016; 24 hr: 138,914 A lot of people transfer from the #7 to the BMT at Queensboro Plaza. By comparison the figures for the Steinway Tunnel are: 1998 8-9am: 25,480; 7-10am: 55,127; 24 hr: 106,030 2014 8-9am: 20,458; 7-10am: 46,731; 24 hr: 102,827 |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Fri Dec 25 17:46:10 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by randyo on Fri Dec 25 16:16:45 2015. Check out the ridership figures for Astoria line stations:http://web.mta.info/nyct/facts/ridership/ridership_sub_annual.htm Many stations have experienced significant increases in ridership over the last 5 years. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Dec 25 18:03:11 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Dec 25 17:31:15 2015. So 4k decrease 7 and 22k increase Astoria. Interesting. |
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Posted by arli3835 on Fri Dec 25 18:41:07 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by randyo on Fri Dec 25 16:16:45 2015. I commute to work on the Astoria line, and I can say from personal observation that trains are EXTREMELY crowded during the rush hours. |
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Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Dec 25 18:58:32 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by AlM on Fri Dec 25 16:31:27 2015. From my days of working out of Astoria as a C/R. M/M and T/D the Astoria passengers were always white collar workers heading for midtown. |
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Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 25 19:09:06 2015, in response to Re: W train returning when Phase I of the 2nd Av subway opens in December 2016?., posted by randyo on Fri Dec 25 18:58:32 2015. Yes, but they are a greater percentage of the population now. |
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Re: W to Astoria/N and Q to 96th Street? |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Dec 25 21:46:20 2015, in response to Re: W to Astoria/N and Q to 96th Street?, posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Dec 25 16:33:41 2015. You can't turn trains at 57th St. while others are continuing to 96th/2nd. |
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