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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 30 08:36:59 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 29 20:37:49 2005. Me too, but I'm about a year older than you I think. But I didn't begin "exploring" on my own till I was about 14, so it's probably the same year as you. Anything before I was 14 was memories from riding with my father or mother as a kid. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 30 08:44:10 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Broadway Junction on Fri Jul 29 18:16:59 2005. Yes, but it was sort of industrial, nothing like it is now. There was no "mall". Macy's had a storage facility, and a "bargain basement" for furniture, etc, but not really a "store". There was a siding that came in from the LIRR Montauk Branch, circled through what is now the parking lot down there, and went into a HUGE door where Levitt's is now (was - I don't know if Levitts is still there). The trains could pull right into the building, the tracks went INTO the building. I have seem photos of MP15's coming out of the building.When they first made Metro Mall down there in the late 80's, the siding was still circled through the parking lot, except it wasn't in use, and you could park on the tracks (they were like trolley tracks by that point). At some point they resurfaced the lot in the mid 90's, and all traces were removed, although for a while the tracks lasted in the back, and near where the big huge door was. When Metro Mall opened, Waldbaums moved downstairs, Pergament moved down there, and Sears Brand Central appliance stores were the big stores downstairs. Sears Brand Central had a cool little record/tape store I used to always go to. The downstairs was never really meant to be retail like it is now. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 30 08:49:39 2005, in response to Re: M redbird photos, posted by Broadway Junction on Fri Jul 29 18:15:54 2005. I have only seen one red Z train, and that was right at the beginning, in December 1988 when Archer opened.Like Chris said, the reds puttered on on the M for a bit after that, but the J/Z was turned to 100% R40M-42 before the M was. The M was a mix of grafittied R30, red R30, and new GOHed R40M-42 for a while after yet. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 30 13:00:36 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 30 08:36:59 2005. Ditto. My first tentative trips on the subway alone involved me taking the A home from JHS (I went to 210 in Ozone Park). I'd walk up to Liberty, grab an A (even the occasional slant!), took it to Bway-ENY, then hop on the J home. I thought I was doing something very dangerous. By 1986, I was riding the J back and forth from Broad St. on weekends, and I gradually worked up the nerve to explore the rest of the system. |
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Posted by Broadway Junction on Sat Jul 30 13:02:06 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 30 08:44:10 2005. Wow, I never knew there was a Macy's or a Sears in there.I still can't believe they haven't installed an elevator (or escalator at lesat - even a frikkin stairwell that doesn't require you to go outside would be nice) between the upper and lower levels. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 30 13:13:18 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 30 13:00:36 2005. When I first started to ride around the system, a few times I did it with friends. Actually, that time it was probably before I was 13 or 14. We told my mother we were walking to the movie theater in Ridgewood to see a movie. Instead, we hopped on the subway and rode the M to the L to the G to Forest Hills and saw the movie at the Midway Theater at Continental Ave. On the way back we took the E to the A train, the A to East New York, and then the J to the M. We were perhaps 11 or 12, and my mother would probably have killed me had she known we were "alone" on the subway, and in Bushwick and East New York no less!! Especially considering what both of those neighborhoods were like in the early and mid 80's. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 30 13:25:03 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Broadway Junction on Sat Jul 30 13:02:06 2005. The designers were morons. I worked there for two years. I was located at the extreme end of the upper section, where the loading docks are. I had to walk up and down that ramp avery day to get lunch at Burger King. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 30 13:44:46 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 30 13:13:18 2005. I used to tell my mother I was going to Prospect Park but actually I rode the systme all day all over the place. That was my railfanning start. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 30 15:44:42 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 30 13:25:03 2005. It's the stupidest building I have ever seen. Especially when they decided to make retail downstairs later on in the life of the building. That you have to go up and down that ridiculous ramp on the side of the building is absurd.BTW, that used to be a very good Burger King. I used to go there all the times, myt friends and I would walk from Ridgewood, via the nNY Connecting RR ROW, across the LIRR Montauk Branch, and then to the Burger King there. Then walk up that ridiculous ramp and take the M train back again. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 30 15:51:12 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 30 15:44:42 2005. But the Nathans which was located on the upper level was hideous. I ate there once. The new BJ's Wholesale outlet also blows big camel cocks. I still go to the one in College Point. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Jul 30 16:10:05 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 19:52:16 2005. I'm glad you posted these. I only started riding the subways at the turn of the century, so I never experienced the system at its worst. Makes me appreciate more what we have today-- and maybe I'll have a bit more patience the next time a train comes a few minutes late. I just hope we all are willing to contribute what it takes to keep it the way it is today. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Jul 30 16:23:16 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 30 13:13:18 2005. In that case you would have loved "Subway Manhubt". |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Jul 30 16:26:03 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Broadway Junction on Sat Jul 30 13:02:06 2005. Wasn't there a shutle bus at one time that would take you from the entrance on Metropolitan to the stores on the lower level? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 30 16:40:54 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 30 15:51:12 2005. I haven't been in the Metro Mall building since Pergament was still downstairs. It had to be about 1999 since I was last there. I don't even know if the Burger King is even still there.Where was Nathan's? Was that way at the top of the roof escalators (walkalators) near where you went out to the roof parking? I rememberr some food place being there, but forgot what it was (I never ate there). The best had to be the TSS lunch counter on the main level. I used to go there quite often as a kid and teenager. They had the best cheesburgers there. It was way in the back of the store. Of course, when TSS closed, and Caldor opened up there, the luch counter was gone. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 30 16:42:28 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Jul 30 16:10:05 2005. Yeah, I love when people complain today about how "bad" the subway is. They have NO idea unless they lived through the 70's and 80's on the subway. And even those that did live through it.....how quickly they forget. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 30 16:43:18 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 30 16:40:54 2005. Nathans was on the roof where the "walkalators" led to the parking lot. Not sure what it is now, I haven't been up there since 1998. Yes, the BK is still there, and the new BJ's uses the space occupied by Pergament and Waldbaums. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jul 30 21:33:53 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 30 15:51:12 2005. blows big camel cocks.That's a new one. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 30 23:37:01 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jul 30 21:33:53 2005. Not in my house. |
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Posted by Broadway Junction on Sun Jul 31 00:28:54 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 30 16:43:18 2005. Nathans is now KCafe (brought to you by KMart). Marginally better food, much crappier service (theres usually only one person behind the counter). |
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Posted by Broadway Junction on Sun Jul 31 00:30:43 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Jul 30 16:26:03 2005. Yeah, it was a cutaway. I don't even remember whether it was free or not. But it was discontinued some time ago. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jul 31 00:38:40 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 30 13:13:18 2005. I rode in with my father to work. then while he was at work, I rode the trains. That's *why* I went into the city after all. |
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Posted by Eric B on Sun Jul 31 01:30:34 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 30 15:44:42 2005. I used to try to campaign to the stores and the owners to build a connection. There was a plan to huild an extension out over the parking lot, which would have had a glass elevator. But that fell through. The two different levels are actual separate tenants, (two separate "malls") and they apparently did not want a connection to the competition. |
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Posted by vengence on Sun Jul 31 01:50:27 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Eric B on Sun Jul 31 01:30:34 2005. Metro Mall is a living hell hole and NOT worth the trip...I've been there more than enough times to know that I royally hate that place..and treat it wil every bit of distane I can muster. It sucks more than anything. Ultra sucks. |
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Posted by monorail on Sun Jul 31 02:11:26 2005, in response to Re: M redbird photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 30 08:49:39 2005. some photos exist of redbird "Z's" in servicebut they are not mine and I do not have copies |
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Posted by monorail on Sun Jul 31 02:15:24 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Broadway Junction on Sun Jul 31 00:30:43 2005. free for people shopping at waldbaum's |
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Posted by monorail on Sun Jul 31 03:55:40 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 30 23:37:01 2005. someone in your house blows big camel cocks??????? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Jul 31 09:14:39 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Eric B on Sun Jul 31 01:30:34 2005. That explains everything about the place.I think Metro Mall refers to just the stores on the lower level only. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jul 31 10:48:44 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 30 15:44:42 2005. What's even more crazy is there is no connection between the lower level stores and the upper level stores in the building. |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Sun Jul 31 11:54:13 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Rail Blue on Fri Jul 29 11:04:46 2005. Reading all you young wippersnappers posts about Metropolitan Ave,I was riding the old gate cars to Metropolitan Ave with my friends then to all points from there, the summer time was the best as they would run the convertibles with several open panels on each side, the smell of the trees,the creosote from the ties and the ozone from the motors is still embedded in my mind as I can still seem to recall those smells, when I left NYC in mid 1967 Metropolitan Ave was still as I remember it throughout the 60's on looking at the google satellite photos there seems to be a very large building at the left of the station and some other buildings to the right of the ststion at right angles to the train tracks, the gate cars were and still are my favorites, when the cars entered the station, the conductor would start down the asile flipping the seats to face the trains direction, one time us kids would follow and flip them back again he caught us and we got escorted out onto Metropolitan Ave, but we got back into the station by climbing through the mens rest room window....great memories. Karl |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jul 31 12:00:31 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by monorail on Sun Jul 31 03:55:40 2005. No, but I have relatives who use that phrase. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jul 31 12:07:05 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Jul 31 09:14:39 2005. True. What really sucks is that you cannot park on the roof and shop on the lower level. That was great for us tennant workers who needed parking, but it was awful for business, as the LL always filled up faster. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jul 31 12:12:07 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Sun Jul 31 11:54:13 2005. when the cars entered the station, the conductor would start down the asile flipping the seats to face the trains direction, Finally, someone confirms my mother's memories that the Myrtle Ave. el cars had these kinds of seats! The gate cars I rode on fantrips had fixed seats. Which ones had these flippable types? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 31 12:36:20 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Sun Jul 31 11:54:13 2005. Amazingly, until about 1986 or 1987, there was no fence along the right side of the station (Christ the King HS side). There were holes cut in the chain link fence along the old Conrail tracks (now CSX), and you could walk right onto the Conrail tracks, walk up the embankment a bit, and then onto the subway tracks and onto the Metro Ave platform. There was no fence or anything between the Conrail tracks and the M tracks.I didn't need to "sneak" in because I had a free subway pass, but I remember a bunch of kids always cutting in from the school. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Jul 31 13:16:41 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jul 31 10:48:44 2005. I thought there was an elevator to the left of the entrence on Metropolitan that went from the upper to lower levels. I haven't been there is a while. |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Sun Jul 31 18:55:06 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jul 31 12:12:07 2005. These were the 1300 series cars I beleive,most of them were a dark green color but playing around the Fresh Pond Rd yard there were other colors or rather varied stages of "weathering" with browns and gray painted areas. Karl |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jul 31 18:59:20 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Sun Jul 31 18:55:06 2005. The "museum" trio has fixed seatbacks. I assumed all the gate cars had them like that, but I guess I was wrong. Since the museum el cars were converted to Q-types and back, they may have a unique interior not seen on their cousins which remained gate cars until they were retired. |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Sun Jul 31 19:17:39 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 31 12:36:20 2005. Ok...where that railroad track is that goes under Metropolitan Ave had steam engines running with freight trains...I think from the LIRR but I can't be positive anyway us kids had an idea one evening that we can have a freight train roll over us...well at about where the track is level with the transit station there was a pit with some boards covering it we four kids removed some boards and were almost able to stand in it, there was ash and cinders at the bottom, we were all having a grand old time untill one of us saw the steam wngine aapproaching from the direction of Metropolitan Ave,it was on the other side and it was coming at a pretty good speed one of the boys started getting second thoughts and wanted to climb out, we had to hold him down as the train was on top of us there was a short blast of hot air then the noise....to this I can still hear that noise of the box cars and the squealing of the cars and the loud empty cars and a few flat wheeled cars,talk about dumb things to do, as soon as that train was a little distance those boards flew up and we were out of there,that kid that wanted out at the last minute told his parents on us but luckly they didn't beleive him, he never hung out with us again, yea that whole area even around farmers oval park on the other side of the PRR tracks was plenty of trees and places to go and watch GG1's fly by with freight and passenger trains....THEM were the good ol days. Karl |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 1 10:54:57 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Sun Jul 31 19:17:39 2005. Wow, that's some story!Yeah, I always hung out in that area as a kid too. Of course, by then the steam trains were gone, the GG1's were gone, as was the catenary. Other than that though, the area around there hasn't changed all that much. It's still quite wooded, the cemetery is still there of course, and Farmer's Oval is still there too. I used to hang out with my cousin or friend on the old bridge that carries the NY Connecting RR over the LIRR, next to the M train. We spent hours up there watching the trains, etc. We would even bring breakfast or lunch with us and eat it on that bridge. When the LIRR engineers down below saw us, they would usually toot the horn and wave. I haven't been there in about 10 years (other than by on an M train), but since the New York and Atlantic took over the LIRR's freight operations in the late 90's, they have become very security conscious, so you can't really walk around there anymore even if you wanted to. It all looks the same...except you can't walk around. Here's a couple photos, although they are dated...they are from the early 90's. It really hasn't changed there all that much though: The M train taken from on top of the NY Connecting RR Bridge, looking towards Metro Mall:  The M train bridge looking west:  The NY COnnecting RR bridge looking east with POND tower pre-renovation on the left:src="http://www.transitspot.com/albums/LIRR/lirr_Pond_Tower_Fresh_Pond_1992.sized.jpg"> M Train looking from on top of NY Connecting RR Bridge (Notice Waldbaums, Pergament, and Sears Brand Central are all still in Metro Mall). This is about 1991 I believe:  This is taken from the NY COnnecting RR enbankment, looking towards the M's Fresh Pond yard (behind the trees). This is about 1990 or so:  HEre's a photo of nearby Fremont Tower before they tore it down. It was torn down around 1992 or so. It was never the same there again after it was gone:   
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Aug 1 11:02:56 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 1 10:54:57 2005. Great pics! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 1 11:14:54 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 1 10:54:57 2005. HERE's THE POST AGAIN WITH THE MISSING 3rd PHOTO and 1st photo got mixed up by accident in my original post.Wow, that's some story! Yeah, I always hung out in that area as a kid too. Of course, by then the steam trains were gone, the GG1's were gone, as was the catenary. Other than that though, the area around there hasn't changed all that much. It's still quite wooded, the cemetery is still there of course, and Farmer's Oval is still there too. I used to hang out with my cousin or friend on the old bridge that carries the NY Connecting RR over the LIRR, next to the M train. We spent hours up there watching the trains, etc. We would even bring breakfast or lunch with us and eat it on that bridge. When the LIRR engineers down below saw us, they would usually toot the horn and wave. I haven't been there in about 10 years (other than by on an M train), but since the New York and Atlantic took over the LIRR's freight operations in the late 90's, they have become very security conscious, so you can't really walk around there anymore even if you wanted to. It all looks the same...except you can't walk around. Here's a couple photos, although they are dated...they are from the early 90's. It really hasn't changed there all that much though: The M train taken from on top of the NY Connecting RR Bridge, looking towards Metro Mall:  The M train bridge looking west: The NY COnnecting RR bridge looking east with POND tower pre-renovation on the left: M Train looking from on top of NY Connecting RR Bridge (Notice Waldbaums, Pergament, and Sears Brand Central are all still in Metro Mall). This is about 1991 I believe: This is taken from the NY COnnecting RR enbankment, looking towards the M's Fresh Pond yard (behind the trees). This is about 1990 or so: HEre's a photo of nearby Fremont Tower before they tore it down. It was torn down around 1992 or so. It was never the same there again after it was gone: |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 1 11:16:13 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 1 10:54:57 2005. HERE's THE POST AGAIN WITH THE MISSING 3rd PHOTO and 1st photo got mixed up by accident in my original post.Wow, that's some story! Yeah, I always hung out in that area as a kid too. Of course, by then the steam trains were gone, the GG1's were gone, as was the catenary. Other than that though, the area around there hasn't changed all that much. It's still quite wooded, the cemetery is still there of course, and Farmer's Oval is still there too. I used to hang out with my cousin or friend on the old bridge that carries the NY Connecting RR over the LIRR, next to the M train. We spent hours up there watching the trains, etc. We would even bring breakfast or lunch with us and eat it on that bridge. When the LIRR engineers down below saw us, they would usually toot the horn and wave. I haven't been there in about 10 years (other than by on an M train), but since the New York and Atlantic took over the LIRR's freight operations in the late 90's, they have become very security conscious, so you can't really walk around there anymore even if you wanted to. It all looks the same...except you can't walk around. Here's a couple photos, although they are dated...they are from the early 90's. It really hasn't changed there all that much though: The M train taken from on top of the NY Connecting RR Bridge, looking towards Metro Mall: The M train bridge looking west: The NY COnnecting RR bridge looking east with POND tower pre-renovation on the left: M Train looking from on top of NY Connecting RR Bridge (Notice Waldbaums, Pergament, and Sears Brand Central are all still in Metro Mall). This is about 1991 I believe: This is taken from the NY COnnecting RR enbankment, looking towards the M's Fresh Pond yard (behind the trees). This is about 1990 or so: HEre's a photo of nearby Fremont Tower before they tore it down. It was torn down around 1992 or so. It was never the same there again after it was gone: |
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Posted by R32 on Mon Aug 1 14:06:26 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 30 16:42:28 2005. "Yeah, I love when people complain today about how "bad" the subway is. They have NO idea unless they lived through the 70's and 80's on the subway. And even those that did live through it.....how quickly they forget."Very valid point chris. I'm of the same inclination when I hear complaints about the fare; when compared to driving, it's peanuts. To think I used to 'jump the train' as often as one drinks water; now, I'm only too glad to pay the two dollars. R-32. |
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Posted by R32 on Mon Aug 1 14:14:50 2005, in response to Re: Broad St Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 29 10:20:21 2005. That's very interesting. What do you mean by 'put-in'?R-32. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 1 14:29:07 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by R32 on Mon Aug 1 14:06:26 2005. Plus, most people aren't even paying $2 per ride. With metrocard discounts, the average ride is cheaper. Unlimiteds make it cheaper, and also, the $10 cards where you get 6 rides give you a ride for $1.67 per ride. Considering that in the mid 90's the fare was a straight $1.50, the fare today is only in theory 17 cents more than a decade ago. That's a pretty good deal if you ask me. |
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Posted by M15 to South Ferry on Mon Aug 1 14:35:11 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 16:10:44 2005. Not really, it is still an island platform, but the 'ramp' connects the station to the exit/entrance. To comply w.ADA standards of course. |
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Posted by M15 to South Ferry on Mon Aug 1 14:42:33 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 29 11:00:41 2005. Ditto. I wonder how many tourists have been fooled by that? |
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Posted by Red Line to Glenmont on Mon Aug 1 15:16:16 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by R32 on Thu Jul 28 23:56:21 2005. Also, wasn't there an actual Jamaica Bus Terminal near Parsons Blvd. or 169 St. near the Jamaica Public Library halfway between the E/F and the QJ/RJ/JJ/J/Z/15? |
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Posted by Red Line to Glenmont on Mon Aug 1 15:18:00 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Jul 29 18:27:05 2005. He could have thought he was going to be near Boardwalk in Atlantic City :-) |
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Posted by Red Line to Glenmont on Mon Aug 1 15:19:32 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 29 09:32:02 2005. It's not that far from the Botanic Garden. Besides, when the two train lines did not have a free transfer, it was the best BMT way to get to the Botanic Garden. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Aug 1 15:28:46 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Red Line to Glenmont on Mon Aug 1 15:16:16 2005. There still is. The big bus terminal is at 165 Street. |
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