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Posted by mike cruz on Sat Jan 19 23:24:02 2013, in response to The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sat Jan 19 23:04:49 2013. no blue doors?! j/k lookin pretty good man! |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Sat Jan 19 23:52:57 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by mike cruz on Sat Jan 19 23:24:02 2013. I wouldn't rule out a 70's R38 as a possibility in the future... |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jan 19 23:59:51 2013, in response to The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sat Jan 19 23:04:49 2013. I like this but make on slight alteration.In the cab between Parkside and Church: have the black needle (brake pipe) at the 110 lb. mark and use the red (straight air) needle to stop the train. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Jan 20 00:09:43 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jan 19 23:59:51 2013. Thanks for mentioning that, I didn't notice that somehow.One of the reasons why I post videos of my progress online is so I can get a second set of eyes to look at my work. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jan 20 05:11:35 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by mike cruz on Sat Jan 19 23:24:02 2013. R-38s didn't have blue doors and nothing had blue doors after GOH. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 20 05:48:33 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by randyo on Sun Jan 20 05:11:35 2013. No, but for the purists in the crowd, they DID have a blue stripe. :)
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Posted by chud1 on Sun Jan 20 06:09:38 2013, in response to The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sat Jan 19 23:04:49 2013. 5 stars out of 5 stars as i am out of foam.chud1 |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Jan 20 08:28:24 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by randyo on Sun Jan 20 05:11:35 2013. I recall a very select few of them having exterior blue end doors while crossing through my K trains |
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Posted by Westcode44 on Sun Jan 20 11:22:42 2013, in response to The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sat Jan 19 23:04:49 2013. They were my favorite "SMEE" cars,, too bad you didn't jave the orginal E1 Brake Package "release" sound. The PATH PA1-3's were the last to have em so their all gone now. Nice Job.!WE-44 |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jan 20 11:38:01 2013, in response to The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sat Jan 19 23:04:49 2013. I guess my big question is why R38s?A few nitpick points. You would never see the sun rise or set in the south. You left out the E in Beverley on your note at the bottom. And the interior signs need to be corrected. Can't wait to see the whole thing when it's done. Great work. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jan 20 12:47:58 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by Westcode44 on Sun Jan 20 11:22:42 2013. If I recall, the Broad St cars in Philly still have that sound. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jan 20 12:49:01 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 20 05:48:33 2013. As delivered, yes, but once they were GOHed all traces of blue disappeared. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jan 20 12:50:52 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Jan 20 08:28:24 2013. During the Gunn/Kiley period there were all sorts of color permutations pre GOH including blue doors on some R-42s. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Jan 20 13:23:18 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by Westcode44 on Sun Jan 20 11:22:42 2013. I may work on a 70's version in the future, with the E1 darth vader air release, field shunting, and pre-goh exterior/interior.There is however, a 70's R16 out there on openbveconnection for those who want some retro: Link! |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Jan 20 13:26:20 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jan 20 11:38:01 2013. whoops! nice typo catch. It's a bit late to fix that now thoughThe sun issue will be brought up to the route developer. With regards to the rollsigns: Those signs are actually animated. By pressing the 0, 8, and 9 buttons, you can scroll through rollsign and flipdot readings to sign up your train correctly. This functionality is driven by a plugin, which, unfortunately only works on windows machines. On Mac and Linux computers, the lack of plugin functionality makes the rollsigns a bit messed up. But on windows, they work fine. |
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Posted by The Queen on Sun Jan 20 14:17:39 2013, in response to The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sat Jan 19 23:04:49 2013. What a dreary announcement. Someone take that Conductor out of service, lol |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jan 20 14:21:25 2013, in response to The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sat Jan 19 23:04:49 2013. Speaking of R38's, does BVE simulate Mean Time Between Failures? |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jan 20 18:32:07 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Jan 20 13:23:18 2013. The link doesn't seem to work. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jan 20 18:34:13 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Jan 20 13:26:20 2013. I wonder when BVE is going to wise up and realize that there are a significant number of MAC users who are left out because of the company's unwillingness to accommodate them!!! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 20 18:48:38 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by randyo on Sun Jan 20 12:49:01 2013. Fortunately, I left the city before that GOH stuff. I still remember markers and bulkhead signs and cranking the SOB's. I was long gone before they messed up them cars. And air conditioning ... lol! :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 20 18:53:56 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by randyo on Sun Jan 20 12:50:52 2013. I worked some 42's way back when and I remember ALL of the end doors being blue ...
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 20 19:25:03 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by randyo on Sun Jan 20 18:34:13 2013. Actually, that problem is with the person who did the coding for OpenBVE. She abandoned the project and our guys here are trying to maintain it. The problem is that BVE (and OpenBVE) are written in Microsoft "dotNET" and other Microsoft stuff. The EMULATION for dotNET on other platforms is shaky at best. Linux, OSX and even our KNOS product end up having to run it on MONO and VALA libraries instead of Microsoft's and both of those are incomplete owing to patent issues.But OpenBVE was somebody's hobby activity and is as good as it gets unless there's resources available to pick up the ball and run with it some more. I wanted to include it in our KNOS OS, but the amount of work required to finish it for such a small audience is prohibitive. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 20 19:47:31 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Jan 20 14:21:25 2013. Only on Windows ... very realistic too. :)
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Jan 20 20:05:36 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by The Queen on Sun Jan 20 14:17:39 2013. IAWTP. Who closes the doors while making an announcement, especially before getting to the "Stand clear of the doors" portion of that announcement? |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jan 20 21:26:43 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 20 19:25:03 2013. How "small" do you think the audience actually is? I would suspect there are more MAC users out there than anyone realizes. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jan 20 21:28:44 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 20 18:53:56 2013. I forgot about that. When delivered all the end doors were blue on the 40Ms and the 42s. During GOH some 42s got silver colored end doors and some got them repainted blue. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Jan 20 21:35:17 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by randyo on Sun Jan 20 21:26:43 2013. Kevin's talking about an app written for BSD/KNOS |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 20 21:35:29 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by randyo on Sun Jan 20 21:26:43 2013. I was talking about the BVE audience in particular. The original author, "Mackoy" in Japan had a fairly decent audience in the early years when it was for Windows ONLY. After he got out of school, that audience (even in Japan) was no longer worth his time and effort. What's happening here is that OpenBVE took his original (abandoned) code and attempted to "port" it to Microsoft dotNET rather than something a bit more open (like OpenGL) as its "code engine." Had they gone with OpenGL, it could have been easily ported anywhere, particularly if the scripting for it were something like Python. So on a purely technical basis, along with patent issues, porting the software to Linux and Mac with the Microsoft-based original code has some serious limitations.Microsoft dotNET isn't licensed for Linux or OSX. There's a substitute thing called "MONO libraries" which emulate the Microsoft stuff within certain limits. It also needs VALA and some other libraries in order to work but without Microsoft's "DirectX" which Microsoft won't license, there's problems. Mac users can install Parallels which emulates Windows by installing Windows onto a Mac (with all the security issues) whereupon the Windows version can be run. For Unix, there's WINE which emulates Windows and can run the Windows version. But again, because of DirectX running only on native Windows, there's limitations there too. It won't run as well as on Windows because of all this. So the "small" of a limited number of train buffs, coupled with the limitations of the libraries on other platforms, makes for a very small number indeed despite the likes of us. :) That's where I was going. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 20 21:48:49 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by randyo on Sun Jan 20 21:28:44 2013. S'OK, bro ... it's that Alzheimer's thing. When they were still shiny new though, the yellow/gold lettering on the doors looked pretty snazzy too until they got spray-painted over. :(I'm so glad I was out of there before they GOH'd some snazzy railcars into oblivion. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 20 21:58:41 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Jan 20 21:35:17 2013. Actually, we'd LOVE to import OpenBVE for KNOS, but the Linux MONO libraries are a mess in Linux, therefore until they get their stuff working, no point in bringing it over here so far. The MONO libraries are also used for OSX and they've been problematic over there too. Microsoft did some squirrely stuff that's hard to reproduce elsewhere.It's been more than a year since I last chatted with Michelle (she was the maintainer and is no longer doing it) and begged her to move from the old dotNET/Mono code to OpenGL, but Microsoft has never supported OpenGL very well over the years as she explained and well ... Microsquish still is the 500 pound gorilla. :( |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Jan 20 22:06:12 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 20 21:58:41 2013. "Microsquish still is the 500 pound gorilla."If the Redmond Retards keep on pinching off loaves like Windows 8, they'll be the 98 pound weakling. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 20 22:11:33 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Jan 20 22:06:12 2013. We can only hope ... :)But Apple hasn't been doing themselves any favors lately, and Linux just keeps getting more messed up with each pass. The whole industry is headed for the shitter. Maybe OpenBVE on fruitphones perhaps. Heh. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Jan 20 23:42:09 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Jan 20 20:05:36 2013. That was sort of my fault.The method in which I routed the sound back in the computer made it so I could not use my speakers to hear what is going on in the program. I misjudged how long the announcement was, and closed down before it finished. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Jan 20 23:45:07 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by randyo on Sun Jan 20 18:34:13 2013. To be honest, some major improvements have happened regarding Mac and Linux functionality.There are now automated installers for both OS's, and Mono functionality has increased to a point where operation on Mac/Linux is nearly identical to that of Windows, except for the lack of support for windows-only plugins (which are being phased out). Keep in mind that OpenBVE is being made for free by a small group of people. They don't have the level of resources and time that payware developers have, yet they still manage to put out a very respectable simulator. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Jan 20 23:46:06 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 20 21:35:29 2013. The use of .NET is being phased out in the long term development goals; an OpenGL menu is a goal. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 20 23:51:52 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Jan 20 23:46:06 2013. Yep ... that's what Michelle was trying to do, and it was making her crazy with all the bad libraries from the Linux tree. We talked about that several times before she threw in the towel. :(But if it ever imports into BSD without that crap, I'll put out a special BVE edition of KNOS for all those who've been at BVE as long as I have. :) |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Jan 21 02:26:47 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 20 21:35:29 2013. Mac is Unix; I've installed WINE for a few things on my Fruitbook.I should seriously consider downloading BVE it looks pretty cool. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 21 02:29:18 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by Nilet on Mon Jan 21 02:26:47 2013. Yep ... WINE comes with KNOS ... it isn't so much WINE that's a problem with OpenBVE, it's the MONO libraries and trying to get the "DirectX" substitute going ... therein lies the rub. :(And yes, MUNDO cool! OpenBVE runs rings around the original. Be sure to get the newest WINE package that'll run on your toy though - Mono has sharp enough edges, which is why WINE has been spitting out so many versions lately. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Mon Jan 21 16:31:28 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 21 02:29:18 2013. Mono 2.8 and later seems to work well enough to not require WINE. Try it out, sometimes it works better. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 21 17:54:52 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by Dj Hammers on Mon Jan 21 16:31:28 2013. Wine is for running "native winblows" stuff and of course eats mono in order to emulate the dotNot stuff - our world is based on BSD and depends on any Linux code to be portable enough to compile in BSD. In recent years, Linux devs have written code so poorly, it isn't even portable across different Linux distros, much less other 'nixes.It's been about a year now since the last time I tried to compile the sources for OpenBVE (we're in the process of a new 9.1 version of KNOS) and it was major fail. The problem with Mono in general is that because it emulates Microsoft, it also brings along many of the high stupids of poor security with it, and since KNOS is military-grade secure, we can't allow any of that. This is the reason why I have pushed Michelle so hard in the past to drop that stuff and use OpenGL which doesn't require hooks into the kernel itself. Once we have 9.1 fully built though, I'll give it a try. But that's the reason why I'm so down on all that Mono stuff ... |
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Posted by The Queen on Tue Jan 22 14:50:36 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Jan 20 23:42:09 2013. You should get a real conductor to do those announcements =) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Jan 22 14:58:07 2013, in response to Re: The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Jan 20 23:42:09 2013. That's okay. I've been on plenty of trains when the conductor shuts the doors too quickly and all you hear is "Stand clear of the closing" |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Tue May 7 18:30:00 2013, in response to The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - BIG Update!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sat Jan 19 23:04:49 2013. Ok folks, the R38 is around 95% done. Here's some teasers for you guys.Once again, suggestions are always welcome!
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue May 7 19:22:06 2013, in response to The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - Final Update!, posted by Dj Hammers on Tue May 7 18:30:00 2013. That's gorgeous! |
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Posted by Mr. MTA on Tue May 7 23:58:15 2013, in response to The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - Final Update!, posted by Dj Hammers on Tue May 7 18:30:00 2013. Woah it looks perfect!!!! |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed May 8 00:50:38 2013, in response to The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - Final Update!, posted by Dj Hammers on Tue May 7 18:30:00 2013. Awesome job on this! |
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Posted by grand concourse on Wed May 8 01:18:56 2013, in response to The R38 for OpenBVE Train Simulator - Final Update!, posted by Dj Hammers on Tue May 7 18:30:00 2013. Great work! |
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