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Re: Air Train question

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 3 14:43:46 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 14:19:09 2008.

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Yes there is. People boarding at the HB station from anywhere but the subway do so for free.


Correct. Parking lot people, and some people that come in via "Kiss and ride". The fee is waived for parking lot people, but kiss and ride people luck out. Since there is no PEDESTRIAN TOLL to enter the airport, some people can enter through the Lefferts gate.

No, the fence was closed so that they could charge the fee.


No instead of the "slip system" the MTA used as a way to avoid fare evasion for the shuttle bus they used to operate, the PA however decided not to0 require slips from the parking lot people, so they closed the fence to avoid people trying to evade the airtrain fare.

And one or more of those buses take you to the Lefferts stop of the AirTrain. Therefor the people from the A at H B are being charged a $5 fare (in your words) just to ride from HB to Lefferts, where other NYCT transferees board for free.

No, they are charged a fee to use the airtrain from Howard Beach subway station, which is much more convenient than taking the Q10. Smart people that value their time will use that option. However, some people who may not want to use the $5 AirTrain are free to use the other A train for access to Lefferts with a free transfer. If they do that, more power too them. Most people are coming from somewhere before the A train splits, so most people have achoice of which A train they use (or if they want to use the E train when still in manhattan). Many choices out there. Something for everyone. All NYCT people who chose to use AirTrain, whether it be through the A or the E, pay for A train. Those who chose the less convenient Q10 don't have to pay that.

No. The (A) parallel TTTTP all the way to HB. I want to know what free service parallels AirTrain from the HB subway station to the Lefferts airtrain station. There is none. You have to take a non-parallel service to make that trip for free.


There isn't. But there doesn't need to be since most people are NOT walking to Howard Beach. Almost all of them are coming in from the A train. Most of the A train riders have a choice of weather to use the Lefferts A, the Far Rockaway-Howard Beach A, or the E. For those that choose the A, they can chose whether they want to take the more convenient route via Howard Beach and AirTrain, or the cheaper less convenient route via Lefferts A. It's a choice anyone can make.

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