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Re: Some Subways Found Packed Past Capacity

Posted by shadyelstation on Tue Jun 26 11:22:38 2007, in response to Re: Some Subways Found Packed Past Capacity, posted by PATHman on Tue Jun 26 10:59:39 2007.

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have to disagree with some of the data (though I agree that the V is underutilized and useless). The 1 train has to be way above 84%. Even during middays it's often SRO. The 3 doesn't really seem that crowded (same as the 5 train-except between Bowling Green and Grand Central). The 7 has to be above 83% (unless the they counted the local and express).

Remember that the table lists average crowding, which implies that some trains are more (or less) crowded than others. While emphasis is made on peak levels it is possible that the table was compiled using crowding levels both during rush hours and non rush hours.

There is no way more people ride the C than D.

The figures list loads as a percentage of capacity; remember that the (C) runs 480' trains as opposed to the (D)'s 600' trains (thus, it is entirely possible for more people to use the (D) than the (C), but for the (C) to be more crowded).

As for the E, I agree with that figure-it's always crush loaded. This is the result of a failed service pattern that makes the E the only viable line on Queens Blvd.

I believe making the (J)/(Z) a more viable option (via a new express service, perhaps) as well making better use of the (V) (either combine it with the (M) or send it to Brooklyn) could help alleviate the (E) a bit. I agree that the (E) is VERY crowded at peak hours.

In general, the A Division lines will experience more crowding since their rolling stock is smaller than their B Division counterparts.

True, but the A Div makes up for its smaller space by running more frequent service than the B Div. In a way each division's shortcomings cancel each other out and we return to the crux of the problem...peak crowding reaching its peak.

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