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Re: LIRR East Side Access

Posted by J trainloco on Tue May 23 01:22:29 2006, in response to Re: LIRR East Side Access, posted by ALSTOM R160A on Tue May 23 00:44:47 2006.

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...It isn't a given...

The given in question is that boring tunnel is more expensive than just adding a new terminal space.

That didn't involve massive delays in train service to unrelated lines that have no financial gain from one another.

Who said anything about massive delays? The work can be done without massive delays.

I'm against it because it doesn't increase capacity of MNRR in Manhattan. ESA increases LIRR capacity without having to modify a station owned by another entity, build a new tunnel to get to those new tracks/adjacent station, and has the added advantage of bringing some LIRR riders to the east side of Manhattan. It's an added advantage...one of its two main purposes, probably the more important one being the added capacity.

You're stance on the matter still baffles me. Capacity can be increased with permission to expand on Amtrak property for far less. Additionally, building a new terminal structure at NYP could increase Capacity for MNRR if MNRR used that new track space (Much as NJT wants to), and this could also be done for a fraction of the cost. Money does not grow on trees. If you need to add capacity, so so with the cheapest possible alternative and then use your savings to contribute toward other necessary projects.

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