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Re: NY congressman Higgins writes Amtrak's Moorman in support of reopening Buffalo Central Terminal

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 19 19:14:59 2017, in response to Re: NY congressman Higgins writes Amtrak's Moorman in support of reopening Buffalo Central Terminal, posted by Joe V on Sun Mar 19 17:34:56 2017.

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Land Grants are NO LONGER subsidies. Nobody gives a shit about the 1890's.

If the government gives you something for free (or lets you buy it for less than it's worth), then that's a subsidy. At no point can you legitimately claim you never received a subsidy— especially not when you're still using the thing you got for free.

The railroads now OWN the land

Yes, if you get something for free then you own it. That's sort of how it works.

That doesn't mean you can legitimately claim you've paid for it.

pay property taxes on that land

What does this have to do with anything?

That you bring up this non sequitur suggests a fundamental lack of comprehension about how anything works.

and the government has nothing to do with that land.

And yet, you'd probably complain about SNAP recipients receiving "welfare."

Paying property taxes occurs whether the trains runs or not.

Yes, and? Everyone pays property taxes. Even airlines. In what way is this relevant?

The infrastructure is NOT subsidized by the government in any way shape or form.

It was paid for by the government. That's a subsidy.

Railroads have the own traffic control system for THEIR rights of way.

Airlines do not own airports and do not control traffic - the government does.


Airlines rent airport access and traffic control. There's no meaningful economic difference— and there's plenty of railroads who have rented trackage rights.

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