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Re: NY congressman Higgins writes Amtrak's Moorman in support of reopening Buffalo Central Terminal

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 19 20:42:46 2017, in response to Re: NY congressman Higgins writes Amtrak's Moorman in support of reopening Buffalo Central Terminal, posted by Joe V on Sun Mar 19 20:00:05 2017.

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Airlines do NOT pay property taxes.


So in your magic fantasy world, airlines are somehow exempt from property taxes? Because here in the real world, property taxes apply to everyone. If you own property, you pay taxes on it.

Government owned Airports do NOT pay property taxes.


No, but they don't fly planes either. Government owned airports receive rent.

Airlines do NOT own airports.
Railroads OWN property.
Railroads PAY property taxes.


I think the argument you're trying to make here is that a property tax that applies to everyone is unfair to railroads because railroads need to own large amounts of real estate for their infrastructure while airlines don't.

If you're trying to defend the idea that airlines are unfairly subsidised, then you've just shot yourself in the foot— you've actually conceded that according to the free market, airlines are a superior transportation method because they occupy less space for their infrastructure.

After all, imagine that the government decided to stop running airports and sold them off to the airlines. At the same time, they bought up all the railroad tracks and rented them back to the railroads.

Now, airlines would own property and pay taxes on it. Railroads would pay no property tax, but they'd have to pay rent on their tracks. The rent paid by the railroads on tens of thousands of miles of track would be greater than the property taxes owed by the airlines— and you would indignantly claim that the airlines are unfairly subsidised because the government isn't charging them rent.

Property taxes are NOT income taxes.

Who said they were? You're just spewing non sequiturs now.

Airlines do NOT pay for air traffic control.

They pay airport landing fees.

Air passengers DO through the ticket tax.

That's the same thing. After all, an entire industry's cost is ultimately paid by its customers; if costs go up, prices go up too. This is just a roundabout way of doing it— instead of paying $110 to the airline for the ticket, which then pays $10 to the airport in fees, you pay $110 to the airline, of which $100 is kept by the airline for the ticket and $10 is paid to the airport in fees. It's the same thing.

An airline is nothing more than a flying bus company.

In the sense that, unlike passenger trains, they continue to operate without government subsidy or mandate instead of shutting down in the 1960s. The free market has spoken.

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