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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by UWS Greg on Wed Mar 14 01:32:29 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Mar 13 18:51:51 2007.

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But Newt did his Jimmy Swaggert number-- "Boo hoo hoo I have sinned" before the Focus on the Family crowd. If they bought that, they're dumber than I thought.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 14 02:40:41 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Mar 13 22:06:26 2007.

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LMAO!!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 14 02:43:28 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 13 22:16:29 2007.

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No, and his boyfriend wasn't a skinny young boy either. McGreevey is a gay man, not a predator.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by metropod on Wed Mar 14 09:54:53 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by italianstallion on Wed Mar 14 00:42:49 2007.

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The thing this will more than likely end up in front of the Spream Court if it occurs. They could find against the the idea.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Mar 14 10:45:43 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Mar 13 22:06:26 2007.

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Mark Foley?

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 14 11:05:22 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Mar 13 21:03:00 2007.

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Giuliani won't make it, unfortunately, because of his shadowy history of family and the family wing of the GOP won't stand for him. I dunno, if you get a guy who's got his head on straight during a crisis like 9/11 but his family life is crappy, then screw the family bullshit and get a guy in there who can lead under fire. Of course, this won't fly because we can only elect a saint who attends a church every Sunday. I did say 'saint' and 'church' intentionally.

BTW, I think Hillary v. Giuliani would be a close race.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Mar 14 11:46:09 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 13 21:24:15 2007.

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1. Who cares?

2. Hardly

3. Yes. Remember, they eventually settled on Bob friggin' Dole. He had no serious competition, even from the right, where he was vulnerable.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Mar 14 11:52:44 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 14 11:05:22 2007.

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Giuliani won't make it, unfortunately, because of his shadowy history of family and the family wing of the GOP won't stand for him.

Why do people continue to say this when polls show otherwise? Unless mob connections are dug up, GUiliani's family life is a limited liability. I can't predict what will happen when the Democrats start throwing the mud (and they will), but attacking GUiliani's family life will almost certainly lead to charges of hypocricy, given how they asserted that character doesn't matter in 1992 and 1996.

It did lead to an absurd exchange on O'Reilly last week, where the chairman of the Alabama Democratic party lambasted GUiliani's lack of moral values while reminding us all that Obama and Hillary are happily married to their college sweethearts, while the chairman of the Alabama GOP asserted that none of that was relevant and that Alabama residents care more about the issues like terrorism and social security. It was funny and yet sad at the same time.



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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Mar 14 14:10:09 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Mar 14 11:52:44 2007.

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Yea, because all the people who didn't want a big city Yankee, Kerry, is all of a sudden going to go to Guiliani, an even more cronyistic character.
Double-standard? yes.

Once we learn the history of the united states, I suggest a biography on Buddy Cianci, then an old truth is remembered. In the northeast, there's no difference between R's and D's. The Itanlians had to become republicans because they couldn't get a hold in the democrats.

Giuliani is Kerry, but the general public will be too brainwashed to get it.

But OBS, wah wah wah blah blah, you're talking about ancient history. I'm not the one who has to go Party of Lincoln or "southern" segrationist daily.
The southern is in quotes because that's the next history lesson.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Mar 14 14:43:30 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Mar 14 11:52:44 2007.

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The polls are very early. When the McCain mud machine gets through with Giuliani, he will be in tatters.

And if you insist on spelling your hero's name wrong, I really don't give a frak, Crhis.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 14 15:11:18 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by italianstallion on Wed Mar 14 14:43:30 2007.

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I don't know, McCain's too old and his chipmunk cheek ain't gonna sell.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 14 17:28:20 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Mar 14 11:52:44 2007.

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I'd like to agree based on polls but I base it on....well, let's just say we'll see...

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 14 18:22:54 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Mar 13 22:51:39 2007.

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I guess you just feel compelled to respond to everything I post, don't you?

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 14 18:25:56 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 14 02:43:28 2007.

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Not a pretender? He was married and had a 5 year old daughter. Did his wife know? Not a pretender!!! BTW: Isn't McGreevey the one who put his gay lover on the NJ payroll for about $65,000 per year in a job for which he was wholely unqualified? Yeah, I seem to remember that now!!!

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 14 18:27:25 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Mar 13 18:51:51 2007.

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Can't resist responding to my posts, can you?

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 14 18:58:43 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 14 18:25:56 2007.

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He may have been a pretender but not a predator. Still no skinny young boys in the picture lol.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by American Pig on Wed Mar 14 19:01:08 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Mar 14 11:52:44 2007.

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Alabama residents care more about the issues like terrorism

What terror targets are there in Alabama?

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by American Pig on Wed Mar 14 19:02:11 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 18:20:19 2007.

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Or Lois Griffin.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by American Pig on Wed Mar 14 19:05:19 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 20:31:07 2007.

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No, the amendment would not prevent him from succeeding, as the 22nd Amendment governs qualification for ELECTION to the presidency, but not service. However as I've stated, the 12th amendment prevents anyone ineligible from serving as president from serving as Vice President. this is interesting because the 12th Amendment mentions SERVICE, while the 22nd Amendment mentions ELECTION.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by American Pig on Wed Mar 14 19:06:23 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 13 20:54:36 2007.

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Bill Clinton is not ineligible to be Presient. He is ineligible to be ELECTED President.

Which is exactly what I said: "Bill Clinton is Constitutionally ineligible to be elected president"

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by American Pig on Wed Mar 14 19:08:21 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 20:59:39 2007.

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Clinton could be appointed VP under the 25th Amendment.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by American Pig on Wed Mar 14 19:11:41 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 13 20:40:31 2007.

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The amendment is irrelevant. As Cleveland was still only elected twice, that means it was still within the limits of the future 22nd amendment.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by American Pig on Wed Mar 14 19:14:44 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 20:49:11 2007.

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In the 1888 election, Cleveland won the popular vote, but lost the electoral vote.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by BIE on Wed Mar 14 19:29:09 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Mar 14 11:52:44 2007.

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he is just another supply side idiot. I see the market took another hit Tuesday. Dow 7,000 sounds real good. Money trickles UP, nnot down. What's good for the working class is good for America We need a crash now so punks like you and your kid know the business end of a shovel.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Mar 14 19:32:16 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by BIE on Wed Mar 14 19:29:09 2007.

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*What's good for the working class is good for America *

In case you haven't been following along, the definition of working class is Mexico now.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by BIE on Wed Mar 14 19:49:07 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Mar 14 14:10:09 2007.

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GHOULIANI is a tried and true NAZI. Elect him and you'll have a nazi government just as surely as if you flected sam brownshirt. Scumbags like "general" pi$$

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 14 19:58:43 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Mar 14 11:52:44 2007.

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Unless mob connections are dug up, GUiliani's family life is a limited liability. I can't predict what will happen when the Democrats start throwing the mud (and they will), but attacking GUiliani's family life will almost certainly lead to charges of hypocricy, given how they asserted that character doesn't matter in 1992 and 1996.


It's not Democrats who are going to bring it up, it's McCain and Romney supporters. McCain's divorce didn't involve adultery and Romney hasn't been divorced, so their supporters can bring up the moral issue.



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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 14 20:32:53 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Mar 14 19:32:16 2007.

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Yeah, they're not ascared to get their hands dirty :D

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by BIE on Wed Mar 14 20:38:40 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 14 20:32:53 2007.

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Neiuther am I or any of the other good American workers the "defwense" contractors sold out. A downscoped military means a STRONG America.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Mar 14 21:46:51 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 14 18:25:56 2007.

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Predator, dude, not pretender.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 14 21:58:24 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by italianstallion on Wed Mar 14 21:46:51 2007.

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Mark Foley sent sexually explicit e-mails. I notice that none of you limp-wristed left-leaning marxists ever mention Dan Sutton. I notice that the left-biased media made very little mention of him groping an 18 year old male page. Now let's see e-mails on one hand - groping on the other. Which do you think is the more venal act?

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Mar 14 22:19:54 2007, in response to Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Mar 13 16:39:35 2007.

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i dont think so
only 2 terms are allowed !!
right subchat ?

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Mar 14 22:25:15 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 14 11:05:22 2007.

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Hillary vs Giuliani would NOT be a close race.

It would be a BLOW-OUT, and Hillary will be the one blown away.

ROAR

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by American Pig on Wed Mar 14 22:35:27 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 14 21:58:24 2007.

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18 is above the age of majority in every single state.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 14 23:33:33 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by American Pig on Wed Mar 14 22:35:27 2007.

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"Groping" indicates that it was hardly consentual. Which do you think is the more serious act?

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by italianstallion on Thu Mar 15 00:24:44 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 14 21:58:24 2007.

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Ha-ha. Dan Sutton - he's a South Dakota state senator, for Pete's sake. That's why the media doesn't mention him!!!

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by italianstallion on Thu Mar 15 00:25:36 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Mar 14 22:25:15 2007.

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Dream on.

The lion sleeps tonight.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 15 00:57:10 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Mar 14 22:25:15 2007.

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Hehe, ok, guess that's what they say where there's more cows (or lions) than people :P

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 15 01:06:06 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 14 21:58:24 2007.

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Still defending Foley, I see. Jeffrey Dahmer was a worse guy than Mark Foley also. There, I've done your debate work for you :D I can see why we're mired down in Iraq like we are. You repubs say "well yeah Iraq is bad, but Vietnam was worse, and LBJ got us in there so Iraq really isn't so bad and stop telling us republicans that we're losing cuz compared to Stalingrad this is really good isn't it?"

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 15 05:51:38 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by italianstallion on Thu Mar 15 00:24:44 2007.

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Why don't you? Why aren't you limp-wristed left-leaning socialists calling for him to resign? Hypocrite?

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 15 05:55:48 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 15 01:06:06 2007.

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I guess you are leaning over so far you can't read straight? Where did I ever defend Foley? Point to one post here or anywhere else. I'm personally glad that he's gone and hope that if they can - he's prosecuted. What I am doing is pointing out what limp-wristed, left-leaners you and the rest of the greek chorus on OTChat are. Where is your comdemnation of Sutton or the media that overlooks him or the irresponsible dummycratic leadership that refuses to demand his resignation. Hypocrite? If the shoe fits............

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by BIE on Thu Mar 15 07:17:39 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Mar 14 22:25:15 2007.

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Maybe by the fucking morons in ND but the BRAINLAND is SICK of the NAZIS.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by BIE on Thu Mar 15 07:23:09 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 15 05:51:38 2007.

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Ok, Hey sutton GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY PARTY. You act too Republican to be a Democrat.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 15 07:35:56 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 15 05:55:48 2007.

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Who the hell is Dan Sutton and what does he have to do with our nation's future??

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by BIE on Thu Mar 15 08:08:42 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 15 07:35:56 2007.

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C'mon, throw the guy a lifeline. The rePUBElicans are sinking and he's my friend. sutton's GOTTA GO. We got alberto anyway.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 15 08:14:30 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by BIE on Thu Mar 15 08:08:42 2007.

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LOL, I know but sheesh, ok condemn Sutton. There was a drunk in town who fondled an 18 year old dude too. The kid had long hair and the drunk thought he was with a chick lol

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by italianstallion on Thu Mar 15 10:26:15 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 15 05:51:38 2007.

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Why? I never heard of him. Sure he's a creep and probably should resign, but he's not a very high-level office-holder in a not very important state. If S. Dakota state senate is the best example of Democratic sex-scandal you've got, . . .

BTW, apparently he was censured by the State Senate there. His "victim" was an adult. The case seems to be closed.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 15 11:02:48 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 13 20:27:56 2007.

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If it came down to a choice between Hillary and Obama, yes, I'm voting for Hillary. In my opinion, Obama is too inexperienced on the world stage and his smoking poses a possible health risk.

Hillary is no bargain, but I'd rather have her. My hope is that she would morph into a kind of Margaret Thatcher.

And for all his faults, I liked Bill Clinton and thought he was a pretty good President. In retrospect, I wish he had done more to combat terror, but hindsight is 20/20.

As for the general election, I don't know, it depends who the Republicans nominate. If its Giuliani, I would have to think long and hard. If its McCain, I'd probably vote for Hillary.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 15 11:04:12 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by metropod on Wed Mar 14 00:25:14 2007.

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"If Bush could not complete his current term, and Cheney steped in..."

I think the media would have a field day.

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Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Mar 15 12:00:05 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 15 11:02:48 2007.

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In my opinion, Obama is too inexperienced on the world stage and his smoking poses a possible health risk.

Obama has held elected office since 1996, four more years than Hillary. He's also giving up smoking.

And for all his faults, I liked Bill Clinton and thought he was a pretty good President. In retrospect, I wish he had done more to combat terror, but hindsight is 20/20.

Yeah; instead if fighting terror, he invaded Afghanistan to draw attention away from his sex scandal.

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