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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 13 16:48:22 2007, in response to Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Mar 13 16:39:35 2007. Is that possible?As far as the Constitution is concerned, he has two years of service left in him. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Mar 13 16:48:34 2007, in response to Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Mar 13 16:39:35 2007. No.Because Hillary has ZERO chance of being elected. Obama is a far better choice and may have a chance. ROAR |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 13 16:56:39 2007, in response to Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Mar 13 16:39:35 2007. While this possibility would raise constitutional issues, I believe the answer is Yes. The 22nd Amendment states "no person shalle elected to the ofice of President more than twice."Thus, he may be elected Vice President, and I believe he may become President again through a means other than election, e.g., succeeding upon the death or resignation of the President. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 13 16:56:53 2007, in response to Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Mar 13 16:39:35 2007. While this possibility would raise constitutional issues, I believe the answer is Yes. The 22nd Amendment states "no person shalle elected to the ofice of President more than twice."Thus, he may be elected Vice President, and I believe he may become President again through a means other than election, e.g., succeeding upon the death or resignation of the President. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 13 16:57:52 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 13 16:56:53 2007. Apologize for double post - also typo. "no person shall be elected ..." |
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Posted by American Pig on Tue Mar 13 17:06:19 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 13 16:48:22 2007. False |
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Posted by American Pig on Tue Mar 13 17:08:58 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 13 16:56:39 2007. But Amendment XII states: "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."Bill Clinton is Constitutionally ineligible to be elected president, therefore he is ineligible for the Vice Presidency as well. However, He can succeed to the Presidency from the Speaker of the House position (if he became the Speaker of the House). |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 13 18:18:14 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by American Pig on Tue Mar 13 17:08:58 2007. So then, there are 3 things Bill Clinton cannot be:1) Vice President 2) Speaker of the house 3) Trusted with young women |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 18:20:19 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 13 18:18:14 2007. Or old women. Or fat woman. Or effeminate homosexuals. Or fat effeminate homosexuals. |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Mar 13 18:46:25 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 18:20:19 2007. or goats. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Mar 13 18:50:42 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Mar 13 16:48:34 2007. I doubt that |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Mar 13 18:51:51 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 13 18:18:14 2007. But Newt set the precident, therefore in legal terms, he can be now. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 13 19:15:34 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 18:20:19 2007. Just leave the skinny young boys for the republicans lol.your pal, you ask3d 4 it |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Mar 13 20:13:07 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 18:20:19 2007. What aboul that nazi bigot, "generalissimo" piss. They need to shit that guy out for the good of the country. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Mar 13 20:25:53 2007, in response to Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Mar 13 16:39:35 2007. He might become the First Gentleman in U.S. History.Grover Cleveland is the only US President to be elected to two different terms as President. Could possibly happen again to a 1 term President who runs and wins again after his successor's single four year term. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 13 20:27:56 2007, in response to Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Mar 13 16:39:35 2007. You voting for Hillary? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 20:28:35 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 13 16:48:22 2007. Huh? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 20:31:07 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by American Pig on Tue Mar 13 17:08:58 2007. Are you sure? The ammendment only prevents someone elected president twice from being president again. How does it prevent him from being vice-president? If he became the veep and the President died in office, then the ammendment would prevent him from succeeding, and the SOTH would then take over. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 13 20:37:49 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Mar 13 16:48:34 2007. If those two are the Democratic choice....the Republicans are almost guaranteed to be re-elected. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Mar 13 20:39:45 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 13 16:48:22 2007. Huh? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 20:39:47 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 13 20:37:49 2007. Hillary vs. Rudy....sure to be the best presidential election ever. New York can't lose! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 13 20:40:31 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Mar 13 20:25:53 2007. How did Grover Cleveland do that? Was that before the amendment? |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Mar 13 20:45:01 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 20:39:47 2007. Let little napoleon get in there. he will take his orders from the south like all good nazis. Arkansas will have MORE influence with the "Ghoul" than with freaking Hillary. Besides, Obama will be her VP. "Ghoul" can have condi. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Mar 13 20:46:44 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 13 20:40:31 2007. Yes. The amendment came in the late '40s after FDR's marathon presidency. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 20:49:11 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 13 20:40:31 2007. Cleveland won the 1884 election, was defeated by Benjamin Harrison in 1888, but ran again in 1892 and won. He's still the only president to ever serve two non-consecutive terms. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 13 20:51:14 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 20:49:11 2007. And the Amendment does not prevent this from happening again. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Mar 13 20:54:15 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Mar 13 16:48:34 2007. Obama is a far better choice and may have a chance.Obama has no chance as middle America will not vote for a foreign biracial man with a strange sounding last name with an admitted history of drug use. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 13 20:54:36 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by American Pig on Tue Mar 13 17:08:58 2007. Bill Clinton is not ineligible to be Presient. He is ineligible to be ELECTED President. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 20:57:28 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Mar 13 20:54:15 2007. But they are poised to vote for a man alienated from his kids, someone who married his cousin and whose currently on wife #3. They've already elected an admitted alchoholic and an admitted adulterer....twice! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 20:59:39 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 13 20:54:36 2007. I'm not sure where the Constitution stands on a former 2-term president re-gaining the office via an appointment as opposed to being elected. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Mar 13 21:03:00 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 20:57:28 2007. But they are poised to vote for a man alienated from his kids, someone who married his cousin and whose currently on wife #3. They've already elected an admitted alchoholic and an admitted adulterer....twice!1) The first man you mentioned may barely make it out of the primary stage as the majority of Republicans are still undecided per various polls that I've seen. 2) Alcoholism doesn't have the same stigma as drug use. Plus, "Jesus" saved him from his alcoholism. 3) The three men you refered to were not Negros, and two of them have proper easily pronounceable last names. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 13 21:06:32 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 20:59:39 2007. It turns out this issue was discussed in the press in 2000, when some suggested Gore should name Pres. Clinton as his VP running-mate.Article bt Michael Dorf, Columbia Law professor Excerpts: >>President Clinton is certainly ineligible to be elected to another presidential term, based on the 22nd Amendment. Some might infer from the 12th Amendment that he is therefore also ineligible to be elected to a vice-presidential term. But these naysayers would be wrong. The Constitution permits Clinton to be elected vice-president, and if necessary to ascend for a third time to the presidency as careful attention to the language of the 12th and 22nd Amendments shows. The 12th Amendment would allow a Clinton vice-presidency. Its language only bars from the vice-presidency those persons who are "ineligible to the office" of President. Clinton is not ineligible to the office of president, however. He is only disqualified (by the 22nd Amendment) from being elected to that office. This is no mere semantic distinction. Article II of the Constitution carefully defines exactly who is "eligible to the Office of President": anyone who is a natural born citizen, at least 35 years old, and has been a U.S. resident for at least 14 years. For example, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright is ineligible for the office of president because she is a naturalized, rather than a natural born, citizen. Accordingly, the 12th Amendment renders her ineligible to the office of vice-president as well. But Bill Clinton can serve as vice president, because the 22nd Amendment's prohibition on running for a third presidential term is not a condition of the office of president. The 22nd Amendment states: "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person [who has served more than half a term] shall be elected to the office of the president more than once." The language is quite clear. It places no limits whatsoever on how many terms someone may serve as president, only how many times he can be elected.<< |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 13 21:08:05 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Mar 13 21:03:00 2007. " proper easily pronounceable last names"Whay are their names any more "proper" than anyone else's? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 21:09:50 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Mar 13 21:03:00 2007. 1. It's possible, but current trends make it quite likely. And the polls I've seen show Guiliani has greater support than the total numbers of undecideds. He'd still probably wins even if they all eventually decide to vote for someone else, as long as he maintains what support he currently holds right now. 2. Alcoholism carries a greater stigma than admitting you experimented with weed. 3. The country would have elected Colin Powell in a landslide had he decided to run in 1996. A black man can be elected president, but he can't be a Democrat. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 21:15:03 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 13 21:06:32 2007. Interesting. But this appears to be based on how one law professor interprets the meanings of the words "ineligible" and "disqualified". One could say that someone labelled as the latter is automatically labelled as the former by default. It's grey and the SCOTUS would have to clear it up. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Mar 13 21:17:33 2007, in response to Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Mar 13 16:39:35 2007. Of course it would be. Didn't we get "two for the price of one" when Bill was elected?These are our new Royals. Bush's, Clinton's, and now Obama's. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Mar 13 21:20:46 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Mar 13 21:03:00 2007. Ghoul is leading in the polls. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 13 21:21:59 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 21:15:03 2007. Probably. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Mar 13 21:23:49 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 21:09:50 2007. powell could have beaten President Clinton in 1996. Fortunately for America, he chickened out. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 13 21:24:15 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 21:09:50 2007. 1. Giuliani, not Guiliani.2. "Arguable", to coin a phrase. 3. Maybe. Would he have won the GOP nomination? |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Tue Mar 13 21:43:34 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 13 18:20:19 2007. So just delete from "with" to the end of the sentence? ;-) |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Mar 13 22:05:37 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by R30A on Tue Mar 13 18:46:25 2007. Bahhh.... |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Mar 13 22:06:26 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 13 19:15:34 2007. Are you trying to take a page from Robert Foley?ROARING! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 13 22:16:29 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 13 19:15:34 2007. Governor McGreevey was a Republican? |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Mar 13 22:51:39 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 13 22:16:29 2007. Whose McGreevey? Was that the congressman from South Florida where the GOP was suing to change voting laws to get different names on the ballot because they were too red in the face that Hastart didn't see anything wrong with Nambla.Too bad it wasn't Hastart himself, that would've been a great mental image. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Mar 13 22:53:09 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by BIE on Tue Mar 13 20:46:44 2007. Could you imagine? On the one hand, Clinton would've made it a 3rd term.On the other hand, imagine Bush being like a Chavez and never leaving. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 13 22:53:13 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 13 22:16:29 2007. McGreevey's boyfriend was an adult. |
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Posted by metropod on Wed Mar 14 00:25:14 2007, in response to Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Mar 13 16:39:35 2007. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice,(self explanitory) and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. (If Bush could not complete his current term, and Cheney steped in, as there are less thn two years left in Bush's term, Cheney could still seak two full terms. If something had happened to Bush before the mid term elections, Cheney could only seek one solo term) But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress (didn't affect Truman) , and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term. (Still Harry boy) ______________________________________________________ There is no provision for or agansit a former POTUS getting the job through sucession. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Mar 14 00:42:49 2007, in response to Re: Could Bill Clinton Be Vice President?, posted by metropod on Wed Mar 14 00:25:14 2007. True, therefore it can be done. |
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