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If Trump Wins...

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jun 4 11:49:03 2024

As a convicted felon, he must surrender his full carry permit and his weapon(s). Also AFAIK, he would not be allowed into at least 38 nations.
So If he wins, and right now all signs point to a Trump victory, It would be interesting to see how this plays out as Trump returns to the world stage. Unless somehow his appeal is fast tracked and his convictions overturned and the felony rap disappears, then this question goes to the moot category. To be continued. Interesting times ahead, indeed.

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Re: If Trump Wins...

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 4 11:55:41 2024, in response to If Trump Wins..., posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jun 4 11:49:03 2024.

Democrats are very vindictive people.

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Re: If Trump Wins...

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 4 13:28:59 2024, in response to Re: If Trump Wins..., posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 4 11:55:41 2024.

Says the person who backs the Republican inquiry into Dr. Fauci.

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Re: If Trump Wins...

Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 4 14:18:37 2024, in response to If Trump Wins..., posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jun 4 11:49:03 2024.

Also AFAIK, he would not be allowed into at least 38 nations.

I've read an article with this headline, but if you look at the details lots of countries (most?) have a procedure for an exception.



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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 4 16:26:29 2024, in response to If Trump Wins..., posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jun 4 11:49:03 2024.

You're presuming he'll be a "convicted felon" forever, or even for the rest of this year, and not exonerated.

What was the crime?

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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 4 16:45:08 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 4 16:26:29 2024.

PS. Brazil, an actual failed state, is being run by Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva . . . an actual convicted felon. And he's trying to do to Jair Bolsonaro what Biden just did to Trump.

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Re: If Trump Wins...

Posted by DANd124 on Tue Jun 4 17:46:56 2024, in response to Re: If Trump Wins..., posted by AlM on Tue Jun 4 14:18:37 2024.

Modi was banned from the US until he was elected.

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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jun 4 18:26:40 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 4 16:26:29 2024.

I never said or implied that. When the appeals kick in, which I hear will happen based on many trial errors (complicated jury instructions) and key witnesses for the defense (Former head of the Federal Election Commission and Alexander Reinert, professor of litigation) not being allowed to take the stand. Those are just a few examples. Las Vegas oddsmakers say smart money is going on Trumps conviction being tossed.

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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 4 19:14:41 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jun 4 18:26:40 2024.

key witnesses for the defense (Former head of the Federal Election Commission and Alexander Reinert, professor of litigation) not being allowed to take the stand.

Do you get your news from Fox?

Merchan allowed an expert in elections to testify, but only testify to the facts and not to the law.

The judge instructs the jury on the law. Witnesses may not testify on the law, only on the facts. The judge acted precisely according to the rules.

And after the judge said this, the defense withdrew the witness.



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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 4 20:20:41 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jun 4 18:26:40 2024.

The jury instructions were not complicated and those witnesses were properly precluded.

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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 4 20:21:34 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 4 19:14:41 2024.

Correct.

There are expert witnesses, but not on the law, which wouldn’t make sense (the lawyers are experts on the law).

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Re: If Trump Wins...

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 4 21:32:29 2024, in response to Re: If Trump Wins..., posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 4 11:55:41 2024.

Bingo!! ^^^

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Re: If Trump Wins...

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 4 23:20:33 2024, in response to Re: If Trump Wins..., posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 4 11:55:41 2024.

I do enjoy it when TFG loses.

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Re: If Trump Wins...

Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed Jun 5 08:45:53 2024, in response to If Trump Wins..., posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jun 4 11:49:03 2024.

He can't even have in his possession a spent shell casing, was on a federal jury and that is the charge they had this person on.

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Re: If Trump Wins...

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 5 08:49:54 2024, in response to Re: If Trump Wins..., posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 4 13:28:59 2024.

So minus 6 would rather not know yhe truth about a man who has lied about gain of function research funding!

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Re: If Trump Wins...

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jun 5 09:54:02 2024, in response to Re: If Trump Wins..., posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 4 11:55:41 2024.



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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 5 13:05:55 2024, in response to Re: If Trump Wins..., posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed Jun 5 08:45:53 2024.

That's all unconstitutional. The Second Amendment is the supreme law of the land and left-wing states have to be stopped from their illegal nullification.

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Re: If Trump Wins...

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 5 14:13:03 2024, in response to Re: If Trump Wins..., posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 4 11:55:41 2024.

Hmm.
Every accusation by Maga/Repukes ALWAYS turns out to be Projection.

Actions speak louder than words, however.


You all lack honor.



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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 5 14:50:07 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jun 4 18:26:40 2024.

This is proof that you are lost.
The man is Now a CONVICTED FELON.
YOU,OF ALL PEOPLE, KNOWS WHAT THIS MEANS.

He is essentially bard from traveling to over 37 countries, can't leave the United States.
He has lost his voting rights, some of his privilege removed.

This presents a significant problem, that no amount of gaslighting can cover up.

This man absolutely should Not be anywhere near running for political office.

The very "two tiered" justice system you Repuke cried about has been put on the spotlight for The ENTIRE WORLD 🌎🌍🌍 to witness.

What's worse.. you bigoted support this man at every turn, even after witnessing him lose Every single court hearing he's been involved in as of late.

Even his tactics,to throw corruption into the court process,by delaying and presenting lies/disinformation to the public, making veiled threats to anyone who stands up for right.

All of this is evil.

Always has been.
How could anyone respect a man,who has multiple "life strikes" against him?
Who has swam with "the very swamp creatures he railed against"

Used the very migrants he hates.. even married a online call girl.

This has made the United States the laughing stock of the entire world.

No honor.
No respect for anyone.
Working hard to divide the world against itself.
Used White Rage as a weapon against the people of this country.

The fact that he has Not withdrawn,or has been removed,is telling the American people, And the World that This country has given itself over to fascist rhetoric, Nazi idealisms and Marxism.

Of course, this is denied by political pundits and other mouthpieces paid to lie.
Or ordinary people who think they have something to gain.

The is an excellent example of how this thought process can change nations.
History has a way of repeating itself.. slow boiling..

You are brainwashed.
You are trapped in a deep dark hole, and don't know it.

Every single Trump supporter is trapped in a strong delusion,a lie.

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Re: If Trump Wins...

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jun 5 18:28:21 2024, in response to Re: If Trump Wins..., posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 4 11:55:41 2024.

Democrats are very vindictive people.

As usual, you have got it backwards.

Link:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/republicans-trump-conviction-politically-motivated-vow-indict-left-110823249#:~:text=Candidates%2C%20officeholders%20and%20members%20of,start%20charging%20Democrats%20with%20crimes.

Republicans who see Trump conviction as politically motivated vow to ‘indict the left’

NEW YORK -- In the days since Donald Trump was convicted of 34 felonies in his criminal hush money trial, Republicans who view the case as politically motivated have coalesced around a new rallying cry: Prosecute the left.

Candidates, officeholders and members of the former president's family have amplified Trump's calls for retribution against political enemies and urged their fellow Republicans to start charging Democrats with crimes.

“Time for Red State AGs and DAs to get busy,” Rep. Mike Collins of Georgia wrote on the social platform X, formerly Twitter, after a Manhattan jury found Trump guilty.

Influential conservative activist Charlie Kirk urged Republican prosecutors to get “creative” in bringing charges: “Indict the left, or lose America,” he said on X.

In a podcast interview, Trump’s oldest son, Donald Trump Jr., said, “We have to fight fire with fire.”

And the former president on Tuesday suggested he might try to retaliate against Hillary Clinton, his 2016 opponent, if he returns to the White House.

“Wouldn’t it be terrible to throw the president’s wife and the former secretary of state, think of it, the former secretary of state, but the president’s wife, into jail? Wouldn’t that be a terrible thing? But they want to do it,” Trump said in an interview on Newsmax. “It’s a terrible, terrible path that they’re leading us to. And it’s very possible that it’s going to have to happen to them.”

The calls to weaponize the judicial system against Democrats are a degree more intense than some other suggestions for retaliation that Republicans have made since the guilty verdict, such as calls to investigate the prosecutors in the Manhattan case or for voters to give their own verdict by sending Trump back to the White House in November.

They represent a show of loyalty to Trump, who has spent months calling the cases against him a form of partisan “election interference” and referring to President Joe Biden’s administration as “evil” and “corrupt.” They also signal a growing feeling among some Republicans that the felony conviction of a former president for falsifying business records to illegally influence an election crossed a boundary in judicial norms.

“What just happened today is a line we can’t uncross,” conservative talk show host Megyn Kelly said after Trump was found guilty. “And these Democrats will rue the day they decided to use ‘lawfare’ to stop a presidential candidate. I’m not talking about violence. I’m talking about tit-for-tat.”

In a post on X, Republican House candidate Brandon Gill of Texas lamented what he viewed as “raw power” rather than an “equally applied legal system” in the charges being brought against Trump: “Might makes right," he said. "Republicans must wake up to the new reality and respond accordingly.”

The outcry comes as Trump and other Republicans have claimed, without evidence, that Biden and his administration were pulling the strings behind the New York trial. The case was led by a state-level prosecutor, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg.

Biden addressed Trump's attacks on the judicial system during a fundraiser Monday night in Connecticut, calling them “dangerous for American democracy,” and noted that the former president was convicted in a state case rather than a federal one. Attorney General Merrick Garland criticized the idea that the federal government was involved as a conspiracy theory during an appearance Tuesday before the House Judiciary Committee, calling it an attack on the judicial process.

“We do not control the Manhattan district attorney," Garland said Tuesday. "The Manhattan district attorney does not report to us. The Manhattan district attorney makes its own decisions about cases that he wants to bring under his state law.”

Republicans have pointed to real elements of the case to argue it was politically driven. For one, Bragg, a Democrat, campaigned for office in 2021 in part on his qualifications to take over the office's investigation into Trump. The judge in the case, Juan M. Merchan, donated $15 to Biden in 2020 and has a daughter who works in Democratic politics, though he has said neither affected his ability to be impartial. And prosecutor Matthew Colangelo joined Bragg’s office after serving in the Biden administration’s Department of Justice.

Trump also has criticized Bragg for bringing the case in 2023, when his alleged crime was connected to a campaign seven years earlier. Bragg has defended his timing, saying he brings cases "when they’re ready.”

Congressional Democrats condemned Republican calls to use the justice system to target Democrats as “reckless” and potentially dangerous to democracy. They said in interviews that such a reaction was uncalled for since Trump had a fair trial by jury and has the right to appeal.

“A jury of 12 people unanimously found that beyond a reasonable doubt he committed 34 crimes,” said Democrat North Carolina Rep. Deborah Ross, the vice-ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee. “That is entirely different than coming up with specious charges and having members of Congress dictate who should be sued in frivolous ways.”

Maryland Rep. Glenn Ivey, another Democrat on the committee, said there’s a history of Republicans prosecuting Democrats and vice versa, but he feels “relatively confident that these cases will continue to be resolved by jurors who come to the jury box taking their job seriously and trying to follow the evidence and the law.”

As Trump awaits his sentencing next month, prominent Democrats also are facing high-profile prosecutions. New Jersey Sen. Bob Menendez is currently on trial on federal bribery charges in New York, while Rep. Henry Cuellar of Texas and his wife were indicted last month on conspiracy and bribery charges.

Opening statements began Tuesday in a federal case against President Biden’s son Hunter, who was charged in Delaware with three felonies stemming from a 2018 firearm purchase when he was, according to his memoir, in the throes of a crack addiction.

Trump has given different signals in the past on whether he believes prosecuting political enemies is appropriate.

In a campaign video last August, he called on Republican attorneys general and district attorneys to “closely” watch the trials against him: “It’s an eye for an eye, or it’s fight fire with fire.” But in a town hall in February, he responded to concerns that his second term would be focused on settling old scores by saying, “My revenge will be a success.”

When asked whether he would seek revenge on the morning show “Fox & Friends” on Sunday, Trump struggled to answer, calling it “a really tough question" because "these are bad people.” He said when he was president, he could have locked up Hillary Clinton but declined to do so.

“Then this happened to me,” he said, “and so I may feel differently about it.”






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Re: If Trump Wins...

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 5 18:41:33 2024, in response to Re: If Trump Wins..., posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jun 5 18:28:21 2024.

This country needs a succession.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 5 19:20:14 2024, in response to Re: If Trump Wins..., posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 5 18:41:33 2024.

We had 44* peaceful successions in this country’s history, and Trump broke that streak.

*I’m counting assassinations but not counting 1861. I’m also counting the succession from the Articles of Confederation government to the Washington Administration.

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Re: If Trump Wins...

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 5 20:18:32 2024, in response to Re: If Trump Wins..., posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 5 19:20:14 2024.

Secession I meant to say. Auto correct was not correct.

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Re: If Trump Wins...

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 5 20:43:47 2024, in response to Re: If Trump Wins..., posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 5 18:41:33 2024.

Question:
Did you actually read that entire mount Everest of manure that you responded to?

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Re: If Trump Wins...

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jun 5 20:55:16 2024, in response to Re: If Trump Wins..., posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 5 20:18:32 2024.

When did you start hating the United States that you want to leave?

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Re: If Trump Wins...

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 5 23:14:03 2024, in response to Re: If Trump Wins..., posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed Jun 5 08:45:53 2024.

It’s just been revoked.

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Re: If Trump Wins...

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 6 00:54:35 2024, in response to Re: If Trump Wins..., posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 5 20:43:47 2024.

Hmm.
Talking shit to everyone else is just your way not to feel small.

Im sure you Did read it, before you shiyed on it.

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Re: If Trump Wins...

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 6 07:32:58 2024, in response to Re: If Trump Wins..., posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jun 5 20:55:16 2024.

I don't want to leave the United States, I want you to leave the United States

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Re: If Trump Wins...

Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jun 6 08:16:49 2024, in response to Re: If Trump Wins..., posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 6 07:32:58 2024.

I am proud to be an American. You are the one talking about secession and preferring the battle flag of those who took up arms against the United States to the American flag.

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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 6 11:48:55 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 5 14:50:07 2024.

You seem to forget that he ran the country for four years and we're still here. And it looks like he'll get another four years. Trump is not the answer to all the nation's problems but he'd do a hell of a better job that Biden/Harris would. From Inflation, crime, the border, the only president that didn't send a single serviceman/woman off to combat. What happened to him with this last bullshit trial is an example of what happens in 3d world or nazi nations, that is take out your opponent by any means possible like locking him up on a first offense victimless crime, which is unheard of. Everything cost more now than it did 4 years ago.
Hate to confuse you with facts, but as the saying goes, it is what it is.

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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 6 11:58:34 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 6 11:48:55 2024.

He did not “run the country.” Of course, he wants to, and that’s the fucking problem.

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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 6 13:47:35 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 6 11:48:55 2024.

Hmm.
You think so,huh?

Please,stop this nonsense.

The company line you absorbed is absolute bullshit to Me, and any other person who thinks independently with common sense.

You,sir, are a bigot.

I can define "bigotry" for you, but I'm sure you understand what the definition truly means.
You are also a "racist".
I can define THAT for you, but I'm just as sure by now,that you understand perfectly what the term means.

Every single Maga Republican,White Nationalist,WASP, whatever you consider yourself..is either a Racist,or a Bigot,by their OWN ADMISSION.

ITS not what you say, it's How you say it.

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Re: If Trump Wins...

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 6 14:31:51 2024, in response to Re: If Trump Wins..., posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jun 6 08:16:49 2024.

He's a brainwashed walking throwback to the Nazi movement.
He's a KKK member,dropped in new clothes for TODAY,with goose stepping transformed in to Crip Walking.

This traitorous bastard and his ilk have been begging to be exposed to the American people for who they are.

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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 6 14:35:55 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 4 16:26:29 2024.

This is how "those people" operate.

Im amused.

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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 6 15:25:26 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 6 11:58:34 2024.

You know what I mean.

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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 6 15:28:43 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 6 15:25:26 2024.

I know what you mean and it’s wrong. In any event, he had responsible people around him, all of whom pushed back against his worst instincts. A second term would be infested with sycophants who would do what he says no matter what.

And his four years were incredibly destructive.

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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 6 15:29:47 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 6 11:48:55 2024.

You seem to forget that he ran the country for four years and we're still here.

That's because he picked normal Republicans for his cabinet, who pushed back against his most outrageous ideas. He already has a committee in place trying to insure he doesn't make that mistake again.



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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 6 15:30:06 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 6 11:48:55 2024.

You seem to forget that he ran the country for four years and we're still here.

That's because he picked normal Republicans for his cabinet, who pushed back against his most outrageous ideas. He already has a committee in place trying to insure he doesn't make that mistake again.



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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 6 15:31:21 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 6 13:47:35 2024.

And you sir are a fucking idiot who talks a lot but doesn't say much.
with the exception of your juvenile name-calling. Typical of the ignorant radical left when they cant come back with something substantial.

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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 6 15:32:36 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 6 15:28:43 2024.

"And his four years were incredibly destructive."

How so??

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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 6 15:54:41 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 6 15:32:36 2024.

Well, he sure has fomented disrespect for the rule of law.

He disputed the election results. He launched 60 court cases, which was his right (except for the ones based on false assertions, but certainly some of his court cases were totally justifiable).

But then he lost all 60 court cases but still didn't concede, and worse, claimed our legal system was corrupted. Now we're stuck with tens of millions of voters who believe him.

No other American has done this. Samuel Tilden and Al Gore disputed the results vigorously, but when they lost, they shut up.



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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 6 16:02:44 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 6 15:31:21 2024.

He seems determined to prove the "Infinite Monkey Theorem" single handedly. I used to read only the first two lines of his posts but have decided that he is not worthy of that much effort.

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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 6 16:06:05 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by AlM on Thu Jun 6 15:54:41 2024.

Yes.

He also fucked up COVID, causing hundreds of thousands of deaths*

He realigned the federal courts towards the right. That’s what any Republican president would have done, but it still counts, just not something that makes him worse than a formerly mainstream Republican.

And he destroyed one of the two major parties in this country and turned it into a cult of personality centered around himself.

He mainstreamed authoritarianism.

He took Putin’s side at Helsinki.

He stopped TPP.

He pulled out of the Iran deal without an adequate replacement.

He signed the surrender to the Taliban that Biden implemented.

*Not all deaths can be attributed to him since a competent response would have still had many people dying.

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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 6 16:20:50 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 6 16:06:05 2024.

Yup, Trump's idea to push drug companies to find a vaccine was ridiculous. I think biden's plan was much sounder. Take steps with no scientific basis. Fire people who refused to take vaccines and then let millions of unvaccinated to enter the country illegally. Your. TDS is rotting your brain.

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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 6 16:34:27 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 6 16:02:44 2024.

Infinite monkeys will infinitely ignore typewriters and go in search of food.

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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 6 16:40:22 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by AlM on Thu Jun 6 15:54:41 2024.

I think the biggest swindle he got away with was that Trump U. where he promised you'd make a bundle on real estate.

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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 6 16:46:31 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 6 16:40:22 2024.

Huh?

With Trump U, he relieved 6,000 people of $25 million to $50 million dollars.

That's real money, but it's chicken feed compared to persuading tens of millions of people that the US court system was inherently corrupt and that the election system could not be trusted.



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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jun 6 18:26:37 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 6 16:06:05 2024.

Don't forget that he screwed over the Kurds in their fight against ISIS and the Syrian govt, and is one of the very few good allies we have in the Middle East. He suddenly pulled our troops out of Kurd-inhabited areas and a lot of them were killed.

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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jun 6 18:31:20 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 6 11:48:55 2024.

You seem to forget that he ran the country for four years and we're still here.

Why do you set the bar so low?

the border, the only president that didn't send a single serviceman/woman off to combat.

Some of his border policies were inhumane. And plenty of servicemen/women were fighting overseas during his term.

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Re: When Trump Wins…

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 6 18:50:53 2024, in response to Re: When Trump Wins…, posted by 3-9 on Thu Jun 6 18:26:37 2024.

Thank you.

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