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Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 10 10:51:18 2024

I feel really hopeless about the upcoming presidential election.

Not only are two of the most polarizing candidates of recent times are most likely going to be the nominees, but no matter who is elected, someone somewhere will be screaming fraud.

I remember a time when Presidential elections were proud moments in American society, moments when we demonstrated to the world that democracy’s smooth transition of power based on the will of the people was evidence of America’s leadership. Now we’re no better than a banana republic, with every election result being blamed on fraud and theft. Terrible thing.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jan 10 10:57:29 2024, in response to Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 10 10:51:18 2024.

If either candidate wins by a big margin then maybe people will accept the results.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jan 10 11:24:33 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jan 10 10:57:29 2024.

Impossible due to societal decay.

California used to vote republican. Now you can guess 95% of the states and their outcome even without having a candidate.

American politics have become like her corporations. Everything is a chain and predictable.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 10 12:13:28 2024, in response to Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 10 10:51:18 2024.

So even if the 2024 result is fraudulent, it merely has to be "accepted"?

Trump is not polarizing. Why do you think he's increasing in popularity among Democratic voters? Stop regurgitating the liberal media whom you claim to dislike.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 10 12:19:00 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jan 10 10:57:29 2024.

I agree...to a point. The best thing for our country would be a landslide mandate victory from the voters for either the Biden (if he runs which IMO is still an open question) or Trump so there would be no question of any shenanigans as to have any doubts about the result.
Wishful thinking.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2000 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 10 12:35:38 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jan 10 11:24:33 2024.

California probably does still vote Republican, if not for all the fraud.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 10 12:36:25 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 10 12:13:28 2024.

Polarizing doesn't just mean people don't like him. He is polarizing in that people have strong feelings positive or negative about him. There are not many who are indifferent about him.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 10 12:39:56 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 10 12:36:25 2024.

LOL!

No; that's not what is meant here either.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jan 10 12:45:28 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 10 12:36:25 2024.

This sounds as made up as reproductive justice will free "palestein"

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 10 12:47:34 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 10 12:19:00 2024.

You still haven't done the math about 2020?

Use your noodle. It's impossible that Biden, who got the most "votes" of any president in US history (muse on that for a bit), was the most popular candidate to the point of winning legitimately. And right now, he's got the lowest approval numbers of any "president" (sitting WH occupant) in history; you don't fall that fast in four years.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jan 10 13:39:20 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 10 12:19:00 2024.

One thing that made the 2020 election results more controversial was the unusually high number of mail-in ballots resulting from Covid fears. With those fears having subsided there might be a return to regular percentages of in-person voting.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 10 13:42:33 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 10 12:47:34 2024.

I used my noodle, which is 3 feet above the ass you are talking out of. Biden got the most votes because a larger number people then ever before voted. I don't get how that is a bad thing bringing more people to the polls. You can fall that fast in four years if you are sucking at the job you were elected to do.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 10 13:46:44 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 10 13:42:33 2024.

LOL! More lies.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 10 14:04:02 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 10 13:42:33 2024.

Or because of a false media (incl. Ching Chong) narrative about the economy.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 10 14:09:09 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jan 10 13:39:20 2024.

One thing that made the 2020 election results more controversial was the unusually high number of mail-in ballots resulting from Covid fears.

That only made it more controversial because Trump made a fuss about the mail-in laws, many of which were enacted by Republican legislatures and/or signed by Republican governors.

If Trump loses by a small margin in 2024, he will find a reason to claim the election was stolen.




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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 10 14:10:07 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 10 14:09:09 2024.

If Trump loses by any margin, he’ll claim the election was stolen. He’s psychologically incapable of accepting losing.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by WayneJay on Wed Jan 10 14:59:05 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 10 14:10:07 2024.

Yup! That ego won't let him act like an adult.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 10 17:30:50 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 10 12:47:34 2024.

Regardless. Its over. Move on. 2020 happened and we're all still here.
Thats Trumps biggest mistake. He should shut up about 2020. People don't want to hear about that. They want to hear about 2024, the economy, the border, the drugs being brought in by the illegals, the crime in the mostly Dem controlled streets, the energy sources, the price of gas...and eggs etc. Its the here and now that folks care about, not 2020.
If Trump got robbed, then tough shit. Thats life. Ball games are won and lost by bad calls. Like when Yogi Berra tagged out Jackie Robinson who stole home in a World Series game. Robinson was called safe. Yogi went ballistic arguing that he was out. All the arguing in the world didn't change the call. But he didnt whine about it for the next four years. Like Trump is doing about 2020.


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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 10 17:34:25 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 10 17:30:50 2024.

Except that 2020 isn’t a bad call and Trump is not sane.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 10 19:19:25 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 10 17:34:25 2024.

BTW replay showed that Robinson was indeed out.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jan 10 20:08:23 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 10 19:19:25 2024.

BTW replay showed that Robinson was indeed out.

Robinson was safe.



Here's why.

Notice that Ford threw with his foot on the rubber. It's a pitch not a throw to home. As such, the catcher cannot interfere with the batter by preventing or interfering with the swing.

Notice Berra caught the ball before it crossed the plate. That's catcher's interference. Batter is awarded first base and Robinson is awarded home.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 10 20:47:24 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 10 17:30:50 2024.

Jackie was safe

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by DaNd124 on Wed Jan 10 21:05:05 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 10 14:09:09 2024.

Mail in voting inherently makes vote buying easier.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 10 21:55:24 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by DaNd124 on Wed Jan 10 21:05:05 2024.

And that’s not at all what the election fraud fabulists claim happened.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 10 23:29:04 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jan 10 20:08:23 2024.

Robinson was safe because the umpire said he was safe and the umpire has the final say. It's how THEY see it, not how it really happened. By the way, I remember when the American League umpires had the outer chest protector while the National League umps had it under their jacket. When I was a vendor at Yankee and Shea I would ride home on the subway with umpire Emmott Ashford and had good conversations with him. We both got off at 7th Avenue, Ashford's hotel was there and I transferred to the E train to Queens.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2000 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 11 01:26:04 2024, in response to Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 10 10:51:18 2024.

Oh; this is the second thread. 00:50:25

Is there any chance you'll ever fix that problem with your phone?

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jan 11 12:26:44 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jan 10 20:08:23 2024.

The call has nothing to do with the batter. The way I see it is that Berra had the ball in his glove, Robinson slid into his glove while the glove was between his foot and the plate, thus he was out since Robinson never touched the plate. The ball in his glove represents a legitimate tag. But the ump's word is what counts.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by DaNd124 on Thu Jan 11 18:56:29 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 10 21:55:24 2024.

I know I was explaining my opposition to mail in voting.

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Re: Is There Any Chance that Trump Could Bend?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 11 19:23:33 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by DaNd124 on Thu Jan 11 18:56:29 2024.

So the scenario is that the vote buyer would check your ballot and watch you seal it in the envelope?

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Re: Is There Any Chance that Trump Could Bend?

Posted by DaNd124 on Thu Jan 11 19:44:41 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance that Trump Could Bend?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 11 19:23:33 2024.

Or take it from you and put it in the mailbox.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 11 19:49:11 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by DaNd124 on Wed Jan 10 21:05:05 2024.

Agreed.

However, lots of Republicans supported it prior to 2020. It helps improve the turnout among older people, who tend to vote more Republican.

I really doubt vote buying is a big thing because it's very hard to get away with it. If somebody offers to buy 100 people's votes, a few of them will talk.

And there are very few stories of it going on, and even fewer criminal charges. There would be more if it were common.





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Re: Is There Any Chance that Trump Could Bend (what)?

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 11 19:53:14 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance that Trump Could Bend?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 11 19:23:33 2024.

No need to bring your sexual fantasies into this.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by DaNd124 on Thu Jan 11 21:37:28 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 11 19:49:11 2024.

It can be a problem read Robert Caro's LBJ biographies.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by AlM on Fri Jan 12 09:49:56 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by DaNd124 on Thu Jan 11 21:37:28 2024.

Pre-internet.

Nowadays it's so much easier to talk about that kind of thing. Back then, you could talk to a reporter but the publisher might not want to print it.



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