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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue May 27 09:19:00 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue May 27 08:50:09 2014.

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+1

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue May 27 09:20:32 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue May 27 08:40:15 2014.

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Speak english.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue May 27 09:21:35 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue May 27 08:55:01 2014.

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I'm being ironic.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 09:42:35 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue May 27 08:39:32 2014.

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:)

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 09:45:09 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by AlM on Fri May 23 16:41:38 2014.

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This is probably true, but you do realize the religiousness of it has nothing to do with any of it. Its all done secularly. It started in American culture to what it is now (and yes has spread to much of the western world at least more recently. Furthermore, it's safe to say that most of the people spending on 'Christmas" presents aren't the least bit religious.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 09:46:46 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue May 27 08:50:09 2014.

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They weren't giving presents to eachother.
Giving prsents on Christmas was basically invented (at least exploioted) in the early 1900's by American Retailers.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 09:47:21 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue May 27 09:02:20 2014.

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Good post.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by AlM on Tue May 27 09:50:11 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 26 19:33:48 2014.

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I don't get it either. MH 370 reference?


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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 27 09:53:45 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon May 26 17:09:32 2014.

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You deny that there's a Jewish ethnicity? Guess you don't believe that a patriarch called Y'hudah existed, even though there was a country named for him.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue May 27 10:01:03 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue May 27 09:20:32 2014.

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I did.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue May 27 10:02:04 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue May 27 09:02:20 2014.

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IAWTP

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue May 27 10:03:44 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue May 27 10:01:03 2014.

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Ok, what does ROFLCOPTERMAO mean?

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 10:42:35 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by bingbong on Mon May 26 22:20:05 2014.

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Play along? I have no desire to waste any time "playing along" with a total dick. We get it just fine, and you know we get it. You can all you want. I know what you are doing here, even if he doesn't realize it.
You actually do the same thing he does on a much smaller scale.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 10:43:18 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 26 22:45:54 2014.

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The best is that he actually thinks anyone takes him seriously.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 10:46:09 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 26 22:17:21 2014.

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Heh. He thinks people actually take him seriously instead of him being just complete entertainment. It's like watching an animal in the zoo.
He gets about 5 people to actually respond to his posts, and he thinks he actually has made a statement. He's forgetting all those that don't even attempt to get involved in his nonsense, much less thinking the few (like you and bingbong for example) that egg him on, yet don't participate in his rants either aside from "egging him on" when he is involved with flooding the board with posts with those 5 or so people that waste their time on him.


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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue May 27 10:52:13 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 09:46:46 2014.

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They weren't giving presents to eachother.

How do you know they didn't give gifts to each other? Regardless, the tradition of giving gifts at Christmas is rooted in the gifts the wise men brought to baby Jesus, probably because it was already a pagan tradition to give gifts in celebration of the solstice.

Giving prsents on Christmas was basically invented (at least exploioted) in the early 1900's by American Retailers.

No it wasn't. St. Nicholas was giving gifts in the fourth century C.E., and nearly the entire Christian world was giving presents by the tenth century.


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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 27 10:58:31 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue May 27 09:21:35 2014.

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You're not succeeding.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by AlM on Tue May 27 11:11:58 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue May 27 10:52:13 2014.

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probably because it was already a pagan tradition to give gifts in celebration of the solstice

But the general thinking is that Jesus of Nazareth was not born around the time of the solstice.




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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by AlM on Tue May 27 11:19:12 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 10:42:35 2014.

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Their styles are very different, however.


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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 27 11:33:34 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 10:42:35 2014.

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No you do not get anything. You just made that absolutely clear.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 27 11:37:04 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 10:46:09 2014.

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Egg him on? Sheesh, I'm not brightbart.

I recall staying out of it first and foremost. But I took enjoyment out of all the butthurt seen out of you guys. Get over yourselves.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 11:49:03 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue May 27 10:52:13 2014.

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Yes, St Nicholas was giving gifts, but not at Christmas. In Holland, until it very recently, they did gifts on St Nicholas Day, Dec 5th. Nothing to do with Christmas. Christmas was a religious holiday. Americanization changed that in much of the West.
And American Retailers invented it.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 11:50:16 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by AlM on Tue May 27 11:19:12 2014.

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Yes, very different. Bingbong doesn't come off even a fraction as bad as Nilet (and that's saying a lot). She is rational (or at least we know she is behind her internet persona). Nilet is completely unreasonable, add in pompous ass to that, and you have someone to avoid.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 11:52:47 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by bingbong on Tue May 27 11:37:04 2014.

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People weren't "butthurt" over what he said, just his complete pompous ass attitude.
And yes, NO ONE, including you has any conversation with him. Aside from the 3-5 people that attempt to reason with him. Everyone else (including those that egg him on like you), don't respond to his actual tripe either.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by AlM on Tue May 27 11:55:34 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 11:49:03 2014.

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Wikipedia attributes the tradition of giving gifts on Christmas Eve to Martin Luther.

And it has certainly been going strong in Germany for a long time.


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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 27 12:07:15 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue May 27 10:03:44 2014.

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About 2,430 results (0.53 seconds)

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 27 12:08:51 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 11:49:03 2014.

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Clement Clark Moore wrote "THe Night Before Christmas" in 1823, clearly there was gift giving happening then.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 27 12:11:12 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 11:52:47 2014.

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All I know is I saw a whole lot of butthurt over a "Beavis & Butthead" quality joke about a holiday.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 12:19:11 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by bingbong on Tue May 27 12:08:51 2014.

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Not even near the extent it was now.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 12:19:30 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by bingbong on Tue May 27 12:11:12 2014.

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It wasn't about the joke, and you know that.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 12:48:12 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 12:19:11 2014.

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And furthermore, it was mostly for children back then. Again, the American retailers expanded heavily on that in the 1900's.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 27 13:01:05 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 12:48:12 2014.

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What I'm saying is it (routine gift giving, especially for children) happened earlier than that.

And it really didn't take off until the thirties. FDR had retailers and manufacturers promoting Christmas gifts as a way to increase consumer demand.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 13:07:06 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by bingbong on Tue May 27 13:01:05 2014.

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Yes, we agree completely. It was mostly for Children before the American Retailers pushed it in the early 1900's (Which the 30's are)

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 27 13:11:00 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 13:07:06 2014.

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The 30s are closer to midcentury. It was also post the sea change in America called the Depression.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 13:26:05 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by bingbong on Tue May 27 13:11:00 2014.

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The 30's was DURING the Depression. And the shift began in the 20's already. Yes, it was full force by the end of the 30's.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 27 13:59:37 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 13:26:05 2014.

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What kind of lame statement is that? Are you trying to argue an agreed to fact. The Depression (here's a quick thumbnail narrative on the problems that led to the crash, all of which existed long term before 1929)changed American society. FDR saw holiday gift giving as a way to increase consumerism, so he got the private sector to promote it, setting the stage for the retail excess we live through yearly today.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 14:03:33 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by bingbong on Tue May 27 13:59:37 2014.

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Are you trying to argue an agreed to fact

????????????????????

Not argue anything, I said I agreed with you, or do you just like to hear yourself complain?

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 27 14:06:57 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 14:03:33 2014.

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The way you went bout it seemed combative.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 14:24:55 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by bingbong on Tue May 27 14:06:57 2014.

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Not at all. I even said in one of the other posts I agreed.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 27 14:28:24 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 14:24:55 2014.

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Okay, just seemed that way to me.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 14:38:35 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by bingbong on Tue May 27 14:28:24 2014.

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That's probably because you come in like a pitbull when clicking on a post of anyone you usually don't normally agree with. Relax a little.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 27 15:15:25 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 27 06:27:17 2014.

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An endorsement from bingbong is quite the ringing endorsement isn't it?

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 27 15:17:55 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by AlM on Tue May 27 09:50:11 2014.

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Antipodes.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Nilet on Thu May 29 20:45:26 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 27 15:17:55 2014.

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It still doesn't make any sense in context.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Nilet on Thu May 29 20:45:27 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue May 27 09:19:00 2014.

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-7.

See me.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Nilet on Thu May 29 20:45:29 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 09:46:46 2014.

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Wow! You're actually right for once! :)

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Nilet on Thu May 29 20:45:32 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 09:47:21 2014.

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You're antisemitic.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Nilet on Thu May 29 20:45:35 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue May 27 10:02:04 2014.

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You're also antisemitic.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Nilet on Thu May 29 20:45:38 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 10:46:09 2014.

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It's like watching an animal in the zoo.

Perfect description. Pity you can't tell which side of the bars you're on.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Nilet on Thu May 29 20:45:40 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 27 12:19:30 2014.

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Yeah it was. Nobody has ever provided any evidence to the contrary.

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