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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 14:30:15 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by bingbong on Fri May 23 14:23:06 2014.

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I'm him?

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri May 23 14:30:32 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 13:19:30 2014.

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Uhm no. Homosexuality is not considered a soon in catholic religion. Where did you hear that falsity? Only activity is considered a sin. Not being gay.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 14:31:16 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri May 23 14:27:38 2014.

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Isn't the pope the head of the Catholic church?

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 14:43:44 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 23 07:14:26 2014.

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What rock have you been living under?

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 14:43:46 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 23 07:15:19 2014.

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So what's the "good basis" for not wearing two different kinds of fabric? Or not combining milk and meat?

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 14:43:47 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 23 07:16:21 2014.

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So they didn't attack Canaan and ransack the place?

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 14:43:49 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 23 08:26:59 2014.

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So it would only make sense to ban pork consumption for a handful of ancient tribes that no longer exist. Gotcha.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 14:44:34 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 13:19:30 2014.

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Protip: Telling other people what they believe is not a good debate tactic. It just makes you look like a pompous ass.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 14:52:43 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 14:44:34 2014.

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Pompous ass? You more resemble that remark.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by bingbong on Fri May 23 14:55:52 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 14:29:04 2014.

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I don't think that's at issue.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by bingbong on Fri May 23 14:56:18 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 14:30:15 2014.

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You.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by bingbong on Fri May 23 15:01:26 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 14:44:34 2014.

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He is a pompous ass.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 15:07:33 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by bingbong on Fri May 23 14:55:52 2014.

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So in other words, the pope is insignificant to you.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 15:08:04 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by bingbong on Fri May 23 14:56:18 2014.

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Me what?

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 15:10:38 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by bingbong on Fri May 23 15:01:26 2014.

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No, you're a pompous ass. And very arrogant.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by bingbong on Fri May 23 15:12:46 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 15:07:33 2014.

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No, those are your words. I just don't care to share personal belief like that here.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by bingbong on Fri May 23 15:16:04 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 15:10:38 2014.

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Ow exactly? Do I tell you what to believe?

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 15:22:47 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by bingbong on Fri May 23 15:16:04 2014.

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Ow? Yes you do do tell me what to believe. Every time we disagree.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by bingbong on Fri May 23 15:39:53 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 15:22:47 2014.

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Face it, when the RW is wrong they are wrong. They are wrong about too many issues that we face in this time. It isn't 1954 anymore. That shit will never fly again. It wasn't a happy time for most.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 15:44:42 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by bingbong on Fri May 23 15:39:53 2014.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 23 15:45:00 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 14:43:44 2014.

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The Rock of Ages.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 23 15:46:16 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 14:43:46 2014.

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The same good basis for all the laws in there that you don't disagree with.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 15:46:30 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 23 15:45:00 2014.

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So the concept of Chanukah presents is something you've never heard of? Boy do I feel sorry for you.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 23 15:47:57 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 14:43:47 2014.

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Obviously I'm talking about the non-obvious stuff. You read it literally but you haven't actually LEARNED the Torah. You can't go by just what is written. The oral tradition is required.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 15:49:43 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 23 15:46:16 2014.

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And what basis might that be?

Because I'm having a hard time thinking of anything that would ban both murder and wearing jeans and a t-shirt.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 23 15:49:59 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 14:43:49 2014.

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Nope.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 15:52:55 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 23 15:47:57 2014.

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Courtier's reply.

So what aspect of oral tradition makes the Torah not say what it says?

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 15:53:27 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 23 15:49:59 2014.

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You said exactly that. So now you're contradicting yourself.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by AlM on Fri May 23 15:54:34 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 14:43:44 2014.

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???

What is wrong with Terrapin's statement?



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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 15:55:40 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by AlM on Fri May 23 15:54:34 2014.

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Chanukah is all presents and commercialism and festivities these days. It's no longer minor.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 23 16:19:43 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 15:46:30 2014.

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That doesn't make it a major holiday.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 23 16:21:14 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 15:55:40 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, that's Christmas. Hardly anyone who doesn't celebrate religious Chanukah actually cares about Chanukah.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 16:25:01 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 23 16:19:43 2014.

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What does then?

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 16:26:02 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 23 16:21:14 2014.

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It's Christmas if you're Christian or originally from Christian background and culture.

Swap out the background and Chanukah is the same thing.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 23 16:32:58 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 16:26:02 2014.

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No, they're different holidays. Although I would argue they come from a similar background: Ancient celebration of the winter solstice.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by AlM on Fri May 23 16:41:38 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 16:25:01 2014.

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Nothing.

I am pretty sure that average dollars spent by each Jew on Channukah presents is far less than average dollars spent by each Christian on Christmas presents.

Further, many non-Christians spend a lot of money on Christmas presents.


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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by bingbong on Fri May 23 16:51:17 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 15:44:42 2014.

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That you are!

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri May 23 19:36:14 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 15:08:04 2014.

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I see you are still unable to be nice. Regardless of the sex of anyone.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Edwards! on Fri May 23 20:32:09 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 09:51:42 2014.

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WOW...
You just won't quit,will you?

maybe the entertainment value has diminished.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 23 22:19:05 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 09:45:49 2014.

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I thought you said he was the son of Frank Marshall Davis.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 23 22:55:13 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 09:51:42 2014.

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When Jesus comes down and runs for office, I'll consider the republican church again. :)

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 23 22:59:16 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 23 13:19:30 2014.

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We don't abort and we don't murder. Now let's compare that to your values ...



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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 24 00:52:25 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 23 22:59:16 2014.

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And I suppose this wasnt true pre 1980?

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 24 00:53:22 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 23 22:19:05 2014.

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Its a figure of speech.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 24 01:09:15 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 24 00:52:25 2014.

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It was true then, isn't true now. Republicans used to know that in order to keep America growing, there were certain social responsibilities. Now we've got teabaggers and other swine. :(

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat May 24 10:04:14 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by bingbong on Fri May 23 16:51:17 2014.

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Wrong is your favorite word.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat May 24 10:09:15 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri May 23 19:36:14 2014.

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You're never nice.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 24 12:38:09 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat May 24 10:09:15 2014.

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Yes. He is such an awful hypocrite and like someone with a social disability he doesn't realize it.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by bingbong on Sat May 24 13:12:00 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat May 24 10:04:14 2014.

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Only where you're concerned.

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Re: Voter ID: Aha!

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat May 24 14:50:43 2014, in response to Re: Voter ID: Aha!, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 24 12:38:09 2014.

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You don't care for Dan Lawrence either?

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