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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 5 19:43:15 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 5 15:42:14 2014. I find that hard to believe. Tissues down the toilet perhaps. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 5 20:15:27 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 5 19:43:15 2014. Shocking as you might find this, I don't actually care whether you believe it or not; I'm the one who is personally enjoying it! :)In fact, it's probably better if you don't believe it; I wouldn't want you to spend your life pining for something you can never have. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 5 21:17:33 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 5 20:15:27 2014. Dream on. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 5 21:19:54 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 5 18:06:18 2014. Haha!! Fair enough! |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 5 21:24:57 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 5 15:21:02 2014. You are the one being made fun of....I hate to break it yo you. I've never taken a person here less seriously than you. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 5 21:28:15 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 5 15:21:02 2014. Ending welfare in the sense he wanted to move those people into the working class. That's why Clinton meant. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Apr 6 00:08:14 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 5 18:54:25 2014. This is what I find rather interesting with you given your liberal viewpoints. You have no problems with women having the emergency option to abort when they have no interest in becoming a mother, but you won't permit men to have a similar option with legal abdication? Why do you permit women an escape clause from the consequences of sex, yet not support something similar for men?No one has the "right" to become a parent without taking responsibility for their child. I do not seek to become a parent. I seek the right to disentangle myself from the rights of a parent. In exchange, I seek to be exempted from supporting something I did not want similar to how a woman does so via abortion. Child support is no more punitive than taxation. Child support for unmarried (and some married) men is taxation without the right to vote for citizens. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 6 00:47:05 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 5 21:28:15 2014. Yep ... including "cripples and retards" ... sorry, too bad you're not well, time's up, GTFO. Yeah ... :-\ |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Apr 6 01:59:12 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 5 02:23:28 2014. Oh?Isn't That what you've been pushing every time you had the chance? Now its the 'lefts' fault for "overstating"? Its funny how you righties have taken an Ethical issue..and turned into a political poster child for your bigotry. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Apr 6 02:08:41 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 5 02:40:01 2014. Nice dodge..which gets directly to the root of your issues doesn't it?You can follow your political party's mantra..and avoid answering?..but your Implied intent is as clear as the Sky on a bright sunny day. So..be cowardly. Its okay with me..as long as YOU know I KNOW you areas transparent to me as glass in a window. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Apr 6 12:10:17 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 5 13:00:55 2014. IAWTP. Don't punish the child for the sins of the parents. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 6 12:34:17 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 5 13:00:55 2014. Because that child, once bornConceived. That gets defined as the responsible or irresponsible act here. No birds/bees, no child. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 6 13:07:12 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 6 12:34:17 2014. Birth is the standard in law. Until born, one isn't a citizen. Read you Constitution sometime.Conception as conferring full human status is a religious concept. There's a First Amendment. It has no place in law. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 13:23:35 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 5 21:17:33 2014. ...says the guy who is ranting about liberals on the internet on Saturday night. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 13:29:07 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 5 21:24:57 2014. I hate to break it yo you. I've never taken a person here less seriously than you.*snerk* *barely stifled giggle* I'll give you a few minutes to see if the lightbulb goes on before I tear you apart like a pack of wolves. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 13:35:47 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 13:23:35 2014. LOL!!!! I am married. You want me to cheat on my wife? LOL. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 13:38:26 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 13:29:07 2014. Hahahahahahhahahaha. You are hysterical!! |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 13:50:15 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 13:35:47 2014. Unless you're married to SubChat, my point still stands. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 13:54:18 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 13:38:26 2014. Oh no, do I need to bring the CAPTCHA out again?At this point, ripping you apart would make me a scavenger, not a predator. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 14:47:13 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Apr 6 00:08:14 2014. This is what I find rather interesting with you given your liberal viewpoints. You have no problems with women having the emergency option to abort when they have no interest in becoming a mother, but you won't permit men to have a similar option with legal abdication?I don't believe that either parent has a right to legal abdication, and if men can somehow figure out how to get pregnant, then they'd have just as much a right to abort as women do. Morally, at any rate— legally, they'd have a much greater right to abort, because the minute men can become pregnant, the right to have an abortion will be considered an inalienable human right. I explained how this works in my previous post— once you have entirely completed your role in the process of reproduction, you are now committed to becoming a parent. You might not be; most fertilised eggs fail to implant, and a great many pregnancies miscarry, but the fact remains; once you have completed your role in the process of producing a child, you are committed to take care of that child should it actually be born. This is true for both genders; that a woman's role in the process of reproduction is entirely completed nine months after a man's is a simple fact of biology, and the silver lining to the fact that women have to go through pregnancy and childbirth. I don't see how this is in any way inconsistent with my liberal views; the idea that men have a right to abandon their children but women don't is sexism, and sexism is a conservative value. I do not seek to become a parent. The problem is that in your hypothetical example, you already are. I seek the right to disentangle myself from the rights of a parent. As I've explained, once you have a child, it's your responsibility to support that child— regardless of your gender. In exchange, I seek to be exempted from supporting something I did not want similar to how a woman does so via abortion. If you have unprotected sex without being sterilised first, then you want to have a child by definition, and neither men nor women have a right to change their mind and decide they no longer want a child after said child has already been born. Calling parental abandonment "similar" to abortion is such an abuse of the word "similar" that I'm starting to think we need a sort of linguistic social services to take that word away from you. Saying "I don't want a child, therefore I will not have one" is clearly not the same thing as saying "I no longer want the children I already have, therefore I will not support them." |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:01:45 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 13:50:15 2014. Hahahahahahahahahaha! LMAO, yup, you want me to go out with the singles on Saturday night and cheat on my wife. Hysterical.I am sure you had a great date Saturday with Hanna and four sisters. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:06:48 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 13:54:18 2014. Go ahead, do you really think that does anything than make me laugh at you even more. LMAO, you are absolutely hysterical. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:14:07 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:01:45 2014. I think you're a little confused on the concept.Unless you're married to SubChat, my point still stands. ...wait, hold up. You're married. As in, to one person. And you can't see anybody else. And you think I'm worse off than you? Has there been any point at any time in your life when you wanted to have sex but couldn't? Because if you answer yes, then I'm officially better off than you. You can't beat perfect. :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:19:45 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:14:07 2014. ...wait, hold up. You're married. As in, to one person. And you can't see anybody else. And you think I'm worse off than you? Damn straight I am better off. You are a very twisted individual. I am loyal to my wife to death. I had my fun in my teens and 20's. It's also pretty sad that you think marriage means your sex life is over, it's quite the opposite. As for your last statement, goes right back to what I said, I don't think you'd have too much trouble getting into that position, as the way you speak and believe actually would scare off any potential mate. Hanna and her sisters I am sure is quite busy with you. keep showing your freak flag! |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:20:41 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:06:48 2014. Go ahead, do you really think that does anything than make me laugh at you even more.Sigh. You're so oblivious it's barely worth my time. But since you enjoy being pwned so much, I'll make a half-assed effort for you. Basically, you declared that you never take me seriously, as if this were some massive put down, completely unaware of the fact that everyone else agrees I'm right and no one gives a tenth of a fuck what you think anyway. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:32:49 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:20:41 2014. You're so oblivious it's barely worth my time.Ecxactly why I don't waste my time on you. You aren't worth wasting time attempting to have reasonable debate with. That was determined years ago. But since you enjoy being pwned so much, I'll make a half-assed effort for you. Completely unaware of the fact that everyone else agrees I'm right That just makes me laugh even more. As the joke is on YOU. Just because bingbong, streetcarman (other extremists here), etc appear to be siding with you, is far from "everyone". That makes me laugh even more seeing that you actually think that. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:38:57 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:19:45 2014. You know, you might find this surprising, but sexism actually turns women off. That's why you have to beat your wife until she's too broken to leave you. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 6 15:43:48 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 6 13:07:12 2014. Including the word "conception" itself. I call it what it is: fertilization. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:47:30 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:38:57 2014. You know, you might find this surprising, but sexism actually turns women off. That's why you have to beat your wife until she's too broken to leave you.Wow, you really are a sad person. WTF did that all come from? Sexism? Wife beating? I make a post stating how happy I am with my wife and that I am loyal to her till death, and you bring up completely unrelated sexism and wife beating? WOW. WTF did that come from, and where in the world did you get wife beating from. You are even more gone than I have even thought. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:50:00 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:32:49 2014. Ecxactly why I don't waste my time on you. You aren't worth wasting time attempting to have reasonable debate with. That was determined years ago.That's hilarious. You never shut up. I can't make a single post without you spewing out some incoherent screed about how this proves I'm a far left extremist. You have spent hour after hour after hour declaring I'm not worth your time intermittently while devoting yourself exclusively to me. I'm starting to think you're not so "loyal" to your wife after all, but I'm afraid I don't swing that way. And even if I did, I don't date crazies. That just makes me laugh even more. As the joke is on YOU. Just because bingbong, streetcarman (other extremists here), etc appear to be siding with you, is far from "everyone". I play another "Draw 2" and lay the joke upon you— you're so far gone that you don't even realise there's a world beyond OTChat, let alone that most of the people in it agree with me. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 6 15:50:17 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:38:57 2014. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:54:15 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:50:00 2014. Let your freak flag fly. You apparently think a good life is beating your wife and going out to pick up girls to cheat on her is some normal life. Otherwise I don't know where that nonsense would have come from. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 16:29:47 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:47:30 2014. WTF did that come from...Read the last two posts you made in this subthread and the answer will be obvious. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 16:32:24 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:54:15 2014. Let your freak flag fly.You're the one trying to cheat on your wife. With a man. Over the internet. I'm debating whether I have enough tact not to point out that you're clearly into being dominated as well. Oops, too late. I already did. You apparently think a good life is beating your wife and going out to pick up girls to cheat on her is some normal life. Where did I say that? Now there are two links that you owe me. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Apr 6 17:52:41 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 16:32:24 2014. Lol!!!! What a ridiculous person you are!! Wtf does wife beating and sexism have to do with anything?? You brought them up |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 18:23:50 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Apr 6 17:52:41 2014. Read the two posts you made before I made the "wife-beating" statement and see if you can figure out why I made it.It involves expressing non-literal meanings that the likes of Olog might have trouble with, but you're far left extremist, so I'll assume you can handle it. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 6 19:19:17 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Apr 6 17:52:41 2014. I guess he likes being beaten. Why else would he come here? |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 7 15:15:03 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 6 15:50:17 2014. I'll let you ruminate for a few minutes on how this is apropos.
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 7 15:39:22 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Apr 6 00:08:14 2014. Child support for unmarried (and some married) men is taxation without the right to vote for citizens.So... what? You want the right to vote for your kids? Taxation is a moral and legal obligation. Child support is a moral and legal obligation. The right to vote is a moral and legal right which isn't actually related to taxation— the slogan "no taxation without representation" refers to the fact that expecting people to uphold their obligations without respecting their rights is unfair, not because taxation is a business transaction wherein one purchases the right to vote. Taxes are an obligation of citizenship; voting is a right of citizenship. Child support is an obligation of parenthood; if there are any equivalent rights, I can't think of them offhand. I'll assume you already know that and why custody and visitation are not rights to which every parent is entitled. |
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