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Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules

Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 14:47:13 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Apr 6 00:08:14 2014.

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This is what I find rather interesting with you given your liberal viewpoints. You have no problems with women having the emergency option to abort when they have no interest in becoming a mother, but you won't permit men to have a similar option with legal abdication?

I don't believe that either parent has a right to legal abdication, and if men can somehow figure out how to get pregnant, then they'd have just as much a right to abort as women do. Morally, at any rate— legally, they'd have a much greater right to abort, because the minute men can become pregnant, the right to have an abortion will be considered an inalienable human right.

I explained how this works in my previous post— once you have entirely completed your role in the process of reproduction, you are now committed to becoming a parent. You might not be; most fertilised eggs fail to implant, and a great many pregnancies miscarry, but the fact remains; once you have completed your role in the process of producing a child, you are committed to take care of that child should it actually be born. This is true for both genders; that a woman's role in the process of reproduction is entirely completed nine months after a man's is a simple fact of biology, and the silver lining to the fact that women have to go through pregnancy and childbirth.

I don't see how this is in any way inconsistent with my liberal views; the idea that men have a right to abandon their children but women don't is sexism, and sexism is a conservative value.

I do not seek to become a parent.

The problem is that in your hypothetical example, you already are.

I seek the right to disentangle myself from the rights of a parent.

As I've explained, once you have a child, it's your responsibility to support that child— regardless of your gender.

In exchange, I seek to be exempted from supporting something I did not want similar to how a woman does so via abortion.

If you have unprotected sex without being sterilised first, then you want to have a child by definition, and neither men nor women have a right to change their mind and decide they no longer want a child after said child has already been born.

Calling parental abandonment "similar" to abortion is such an abuse of the word "similar" that I'm starting to think we need a sort of linguistic social services to take that word away from you.

Saying "I don't want a child, therefore I will not have one" is clearly not the same thing as saying "I no longer want the children I already have, therefore I will not support them."

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