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Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 18 03:28:22 2014, in response to Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 18 03:21:08 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Bottom line is that aside from the really cranky old bastards, most Irish Catholics don't give a shit about getting all wound up over this kinda stuff. Live and let live, or I'll punch you in the face. :)

No. They do care and they're fucking pissed. And they're under 50 and drink hard on weekends. And they're all boycotting Guinness this weekend.

Just to step into YOUR sidewalk act for a minute,

My sidewalk act? I did not create this controversy.

Italian parishes expected their priests to dispense fire and brimstone and "you're all going straight to hell" whereas the IRISH parishes were "fuck that, c'mere and give me a hug" .

I thought the difference was statues and gold crosses around the neck.

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Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 18 03:33:34 2014, in response to Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 18 03:28:22 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Heh. OK, fight me if you wanna, I'm cool with it. :)

Anyone who's pissed about it all probably has their own sexual identity issues ... can't help them there. But as I've repeatedly said before, my own problem with forcing those dinosaurs to accept modern life is that if we impose upon their toy, then it gives others the right to impose on OTHER parades, and I can see that not working out well.

I believe in freedom of association for private groups, but they DO have to bear in mind that they're using public facilities for their stupid parade. But if we force them to accept "I'm gay" marchers, then what's to stop the NRA from suing and winning about having their own "Shoot them faggots" banners marching along in the Gay Pride parades? I think each group has the right to choose who can play and everybody else has the right to say "Fuck that, I ain't playing" ... but I suppose that's the wrong answer to way too many. :(

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Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 18 03:36:44 2014, in response to Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 18 03:28:22 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Oh yeah ... the statues ... well, might as well go racist for giggles then ... WTF is it with Virgin Mary's in bathtubs on the front lawn? Heh.

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Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 18 03:37:18 2014, in response to Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 18 03:33:34 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'm insulted by your sidewalk act comment. I'm for real.

You lose this fight. All the Irish want is their ethnic-based Catholic-inspired parade and the LGBT's want to crash it.

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Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 18 03:39:25 2014, in response to Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 18 03:36:44 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What's "racist" about your comment?

Think I never noticed the same thing? When I'm in Queens, I always tell people you can tell where the Italians live because of the statues and/or well-kept landscaping, especially roses.

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Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 18 03:40:00 2014, in response to Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 18 03:37:18 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You shouldn't be insulted ... I thought we had an understanding off this place. I'm busting chops. Sheesh.

And man ... you're all worked up. :)

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Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 18 03:40:39 2014, in response to Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 18 03:39:25 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Dewd ... stop being serious cat ... you'll turn into Train Dude if you don't stop that shit. :)

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Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 18 03:51:23 2014, in response to Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 18 03:36:44 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
and as I told you, I only go to mass to belong to a community. a good community. I don't believe in Jesus. This weekend we read a crazy story about Jesus appearing before his disciples in light form, with two dead guys and Peter was like, "Ok. I'll put up some tents".

You'd have to be crazy to believe what's in the Bible.

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Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 18 03:54:29 2014, in response to Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 18 03:51:23 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Whatever works for you, it's all good. And yeah, know the parables. The whole point of Jesus *is* that community and coming together. So even if you're still cynical about it all, you're at least on the right path. I ain't gonna screw with that. Chill, bro ... I'm not your enemy. You should know that by now. :)

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 18 04:57:33 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Mar 17 17:35:20 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Isn't homosexulaity against Jewish teachings?

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 18 05:31:53 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Mar 17 17:35:20 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
In this case, both the Cubs and Nationals approved the schedule change and it isn't a hardship on either team.

But the point is, it was rescheduled because of political strong arm tactics used by Leftists.

You only proved my point by verifying how rare double-headers are.

Thanks for attacking and backfiring.

p.s. - I did the recumbent bike because it's raining hard in Florida.

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Re: Guinness Pulls Out Of NYC St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 08:10:24 2014, in response to Re: Guinness Pulls Out Of NYC St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 17 20:37:37 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Ahh, so it has nothing to do with a religious organization like NY's.

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Re: I don't think the Irish Taverns Are Gonna Pull Guinness Off The Taps

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 08:15:28 2014, in response to Re: I don't think the Irish Taverns Are Gonna Pull Guinness Off The Taps, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 17 21:38:39 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
My local beer distributor has it, but he has all kinds of out of the ordinary stuff. And if he don't have it he can get it for you.


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Re: Cubs Reschedule Game For Gay Pride Parade

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 08:16:43 2014, in response to Re: Cubs Reschedule Game For Gay Pride Parade, posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 17 18:07:45 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The same could be said for gays. Why do you need to walk around "I am a gay man" everywhere you go with banners? I don't see heterosexual people marching in banners in parades. This isn't a sexuality parade.

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Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 08:19:40 2014, in response to Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Mar 17 21:51:10 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
How does the parade "force it's religious beliefs on you"?

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Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 08:22:20 2014, in response to Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE, posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 17 20:48:10 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The constitution states freedom OF religion. That means they have the right to practice as they believe. That means people LIKE YOU can't force them to do things against their religion.
The "freedom from religion", is just THAT, BILLSHIT. You do not have to participate in the parade, no one is forcing you to. So don't go. amd don't watch it on TV. Done, you are absolved of being "subjected" to "religion, as your BULLSHIT says.

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Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 08:23:53 2014, in response to Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE, posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 17 20:53:19 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
If they are a cop, fireman, in a band, or whatever other groups are involved in the parade, they are completely free to march as is anyone else. They don't have "heterosexual irish grouyps" groups marching either.

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Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 08:26:06 2014, in response to Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Mar 17 21:07:27 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You are correct. All this does is make people who don't care one way or the another sway AWAY from what is becoming seen as a "radical group". It's hurting their cause way more than it's helping.

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Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 08:27:31 2014, in response to Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 17 21:18:38 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Huh? The guy is an asshole. I said that many times. A piece of shit.
He has nothing to do with this group.
And YES, the asshole Phelps, has EVERY right to partake in his religious views, no matter how TWISTED they are.

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Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 08:28:12 2014, in response to Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 17 22:47:28 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
There is no poster here that posts as AIM.

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 08:33:25 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 18 04:57:33 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Homosexuality isn't against Catholic teaching either, and I don't believe it's against Judiasm. In Catholicism, Homosexual ACTS are....which is NOT the same as Homosexuality. I believe it's similar in Judiasm.

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Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Mar 18 08:34:49 2014, in response to Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 17 22:47:28 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d


Asshole......why not ask AIM himself who he is.....gp for it.....
Hey douchebag fucktard, answer the question, you mental midget! Who is AIM?



Take Pride,
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Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Mar 18 08:36:11 2014, in response to Re: IRISH-AMERICAN BOSTON MAYOR SAYS NO TO MARCHING IN THE ST. PAT'S PARADE, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 17 22:45:02 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL!

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Mar 18 08:38:46 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 18 04:57:33 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Why don't you ask your local Orthodox Rabbi?

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 18 09:13:05 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 08:33:25 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Chris, I didn't know you were Jewish.


Lev. 18:22
•‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." (NASB)
•"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." (ESV, NKJV)


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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 18 09:14:18 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Mar 18 08:38:46 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The Orthodox says yes, the deformed, uh I mean reform says no.

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 18 09:20:07 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 18 09:13:05 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Lev. 18:22
•‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." (NASB)
•"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." (ESV, NKJV)



Leviticus 11:9 "Everything in the waters that has fins and scales, whether in the seas or in the rivers, you may eat. 10 But anything in the seas or the rivers that has not fins and scales, of the swarming creatures in the waters and of the living creatures that are in the waters, is an abomination to you"

Exodus 31:14 "Therefore you are to observe the sabbath, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death"

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 18 09:22:36 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 18 09:14:18 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The Orthodox says yes, the deformed, uh I mean reform says no.

You're Orthodox?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Mar 14 21:18:16 2014

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 09:27:27 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 18 09:13:05 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I am not Jewish, I am Catholic.

Lev. 18:22
•‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." (NASB)
•"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." (ESV, NKJV)


That is in regard to Homosexuall ACTS, not homosexuality.

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 18 09:29:13 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 18 09:20:07 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
CMM is doomed!


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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 18 09:30:28 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 09:27:27 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So you're saying that the Catholic Church is ignoring Matthew 5:28 and 1 Corinthians 6:9-11?

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 18 09:31:31 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 12:53:27 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
All these years, I'll bet their games have been played during the parade in the past and it was never an issue.

The last time the Cubs were at home during Pride Parade was 2001. Parade attendance was 350,000. (They played the White Sox at the Cell every year from 2002 to 2010, except 2006).

Parade attendance in 2013 was 1 million.

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 18 09:31:41 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 09:27:27 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So in other words what you're saying is that stealing is a sin, but the theif isn't. Or murder is a sin, but not the murderer.

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 18 09:33:29 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 18 09:31:41 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yup, hate the sin, love the sinner.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 18 09:33:47 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 18 09:29:13 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Coming from someone named after toothpaste.

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 09:35:15 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 18 09:30:28 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Matthew 5:28 has to do with lust and adultery.

And Corinthians 6:9-11 has to do with homosexual ACTS, as I said.



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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 18 09:39:50 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 09:35:15 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The lust precedes the act. Committing said acts in the heart is the spirit of what's referred to.

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 09:40:53 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 18 09:31:41 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
But there's a difference. A THIEF implies someone already stole something, as in past tense, you can't be a "thief" without already having committed robbery.
The same with murder. A "murderer" can not be a murderer unless he killed someone.
The same is not true of homosexuals. As heterosexuals, they are what they are. But that does not mean a homosexual partakes in homosexual activity (just as it doesn't mean a heterosexual has sex).

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 18 09:42:13 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 18 09:31:31 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Wow! It's been 13 years? I wonder if that was done deliberatley? What's your source?

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 09:45:54 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 18 09:39:50 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
*** Disclaimer, it's not that I agree or disagree with this, I am only providing this as a messenger.

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/homosexuality

Every human being is called to receive a gift of divine sonship, to become a child of God by grace. However, to receive this gift, we must reject sin, including homosexual behavior—that is, acts intended to arouse or stimulate a sexual response regarding a person of the same sex. The Catholic Church teaches that such acts are always violations of divine and natural law.

Homosexual desires, however, are not in themselves sinful. People are subject to a wide variety of sinful desires over which they have little direct control, but these do not become sinful until a person acts upon them, either by acting out the desire or by encouraging the desire and deliberately engaging in fantasies about acting it out. People tempted by homosexual desires, like people tempted by improper heterosexual desires, are not sinning until they act upon those desires in some manner.



Divine Law

The rejection of homosexual behavior that is found in the Old Testament is well known. In Genesis 19, two angels in disguise visit the city of Sodom and are offered hospitality and shelter by Lot. During the night, the men of Sodom demand that Lot hand over his guests for homosexual intercourse. Lot refuses, and the angels blind the men of Sodom. Lot and his household escape, and the town is destroyed by fire "because the outcry against its people has become great before the Lord" (Gen. 19:13).

Throughout history, Jewish and Christian scholars have recognized that one of the chief sins involved in God’s destruction of Sodom was its people’s homosexual behavior. But today, certain homosexual activists promote the idea that the sin of Sodom was merely a lack of hospitality. Although inhospitality is a sin, it is clearly the homosexual behavior of the Sodomites that is singled out for special criticism in the account of their city’s destruction. We must look to Scripture’s own interpretation of the sin of Sodom.

Jude 7 records that Sodom and Gomorrah "acted immorally and indulged in unnatural lust." Ezekiel says that Sodom committed "abominable things" (Ezek. 16:50), which could refer to homosexual and heterosexual acts of sin. Lot even offered his two virgin daughters in place of his guests, but the men of Sodom rejected the offer, preferring homosexual sex over heterosexual sex (Gen. 19:8–9). Ezekiel does allude to a lack of hospitality in saying that Sodom "did not aid the poor and needy" (Ezek. 16:49). So homosexual acts and a lack of hospitality both contributed to the destruction of Sodom, with the former being the far greater sin, the "abominable thing" that set off God’s wrath.

But the Sodom incident is not the only time the Old Testament deals with homosexuality. An explicit condemnation is found in the book of Leviticus: "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. . . . If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them" (Lev. 18:22, 20:13).



Reinterpreting Scripture

To discount this, some homosexual activists have argued that moral imperatives from the Old Testament can be dismissed since there were certain ceremonial requirements at the time—such as not eating pork, or circumcising male babies—that are no longer binding.

While the Old Testament’s ceremonial requirements are no longer binding, its moral requirements are. God may issue different ceremonies for use in different times and cultures, but his moral requirements are eternal and are binding on all cultures.

Confirming this fact is the New Testament’s forceful rejection of homosexual behavior as well. In Romans 1, Paul attributes the homosexual desires of some to a refusal to acknowledge and worship God. He says, "For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a base mind and to improper conduct. . . . Though they know God’s decree that those who do such things deserve to die, they not only do them but approve those who practice them" (Rom. 1:26–28, 32).

Elsewhere Paul again warns that homosexual behavior is one of the sins that will deprive one of heaven: "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God" (1 Cor. 6:9–10, NIV).

All of Scripture teaches the unacceptability of homosexual behavior. But the rejection of this behavior is not an arbitrary prohibition. It, like other moral imperatives, is rooted in natural law—the design that God has built into human nature.



Natural Law

People have a basic, ethical intuition that certain behaviors are wrong because they are unnatural. We perceive intuitively that the natural sex partner of a human is another human, not an animal.

The same reasoning applies to the case of homosexual behavior. The natural sex partner for a man is a woman, and the natural sex partner for a woman is a man. Thus, people have the corresponding intuition concerning homosexuality that they do about bestiality—that it is wrong because it is unnatural.

Natural law reasoning is the basis for almost all standard moral intuitions. For example, it is the dignity and value that each human being naturally possesses that makes the needless destruction of human life or infliction of physical and emotional pain immoral. This gives rise to a host of specific moral principles, such as the unacceptability of murder, kidnapping, mutilation, physical and emotional abuse, and so forth.



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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 18 09:49:38 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 09:40:53 2014.

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The desire to commit the act precedes the act. A killing can't be murder if it is not premeditated after all. And I've never heard of "accidentally" taking stuff that isn't yours if if you break into a domicile belonging to someone else.

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 18 09:53:50 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 18 09:42:13 2014.

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Wow! It's been 13 years? I wonder if that was done deliberatley? What's your source?

Google "Cubs schedule 2013," "Cubs schedule 2012," etc. Not that hard.

I don't know if it was deliberate or not, but that's a big difference in numbers.

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Re: Cubs Reschedule Game For Gay Pride Parade

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 18 09:58:40 2014, in response to Re: Cubs Reschedule Game For Gay Pride Parade, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 16 14:21:08 2014.

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But I guess Tom Ricketts doesn't mind the revenue he would other wise he would be making that day, but the area's buisnesses I'm sure are pissed on the revenue they'll be losing that day. I'm taking my buisness to Milwaukee that day.

The Cubs have hosted "Out at Wrigley" as part of the parade since 2001, and they have a float in the parade. Here's Ernie Banks on it in the 2010 parade:



That's Cubs co-owner Laura Ricketts on the float with him. She's gay.

I don't think area businesses are going to be crying about lost revenue with a million extra people on the street.

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Mar 18 10:05:55 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 18 09:14:18 2014.

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The Orthodox says yes, the deformed, uh I mean reform says no.
I think you should ask your local Orthodox Rabbi. You are quite confused on most Jewish matters.

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Mar 18 10:09:15 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 18 09:53:50 2014.

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Google "Cubs schedule 2013," "Cubs schedule 2012," etc. Not that hard.
LOL!

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Mar 18 10:09:53 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 18 09:31:31 2014.

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Whoa, LuchAAA is wrong AGAIN? No way!

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 18 10:20:43 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 18 09:22:36 2014.

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PWN3D!

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 10:22:15 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 18 09:49:38 2014.

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Yes. But you aren't a murderer unless you killed someone. You also aren't a thief if you didn't rob.


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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 18 10:23:29 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 09:40:53 2014.

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You don't have to commit robbery to be a thief. There are other kinds of theft.

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Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 18 10:24:12 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 18 10:22:15 2014.

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You can be a thief if you didn't rob.

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