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All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 03:42:09 2014 Gay groups have all the power.link here |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 15 04:19:52 2014, in response to All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 03:42:09 2014. They must drink a lot of beer. Sam Adams would like to sell them that beer.Simple economics Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 04:44:09 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 15 04:19:52 2014. gays have their own parades, history months, etc......... Not sure why they have to be so disruptive?this is not a sexual orientation parade. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 15 05:00:04 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 04:44:09 2014. I pretty much agree with you. My impression of the parade is that the groups that march are Irish and/or represent some achievement like being a fireman or a policeman or National Guard, Irish dance group or whatever. Not sure where a group that highlights itself as gay fits in on that theme.Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Mar 15 08:53:56 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 04:44:09 2014. And they were successful in intintimidating the Cubs here in Chicago to cancelling their game on Sunday June 29, the day of the gay pride parade. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Mar 15 09:19:12 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 15 04:19:52 2014. If it were just about selling beer it seems like they would participate. St. Patrick's Day is beer drinking holiday for much of the country. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 15 09:38:24 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Easy on Sat Mar 15 09:19:12 2014. Point taken. They sell a lot of Sammy's on SPD and their corporate culture may be more pro-gay (or less anti-) so it might not just be sales. OTOH maybe they ran the numbers and the result was that pulling out of the parade and avoiding a boycott was prudent.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 15 12:39:30 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Mar 15 08:53:56 2014. Do they hold games on the days of other parades? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 12:53:27 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Mar 15 08:53:56 2014. All these years, I'll bet their games have been played during the parade in the past and it was never an issue.It's not about the congestion reason cited, it's about having ALL THE POWER. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 15 12:56:16 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Mar 15 08:53:56 2014. What intimidation? An alderman made a request to move the game because of traffic considerations. Sounds like the Cubs said "yeah ok". It's not like they were gonna win that day anyway :)your pal, Fred |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 15 12:57:57 2014, in response to All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 03:42:09 2014. Given that the Irish in Ireland have no difficulty at all in allowing gays and lesbians to march openly in their St. Patrick's Day parades, why is it such an issue here at home?No one forced Sam Adams to pull out of Boston's Parade. Don't know where you're getting this "all the power" nonsense from. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 13:03:00 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 15 12:57:57 2014. Don't know where you're getting this "all the power" nonsense from.I have no idea. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Mar 15 13:03:06 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 15 12:57:57 2014. Are heterosexual groups allowed to march in the NY parade? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 15 13:06:58 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Easy on Sat Mar 15 13:03:06 2014. Every group that marches in NYC's parade is "heterosexual", since gays and lesbians are specifically excluded. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 13:11:43 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 15 13:06:58 2014. Gays and lesbians are not excluded. For example, if they're cops or firemen they can march with whatever group they belong to.LGBT might be the most powerful minority agenda group in America today. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Mar 15 13:12:34 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 15 13:06:58 2014. How do they make sure that none of the marchers are on the DL? |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat Mar 15 14:54:44 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Easy on Sat Mar 15 13:03:06 2014. Are heterosexual groups allowed to march in the NY parade?No. You have to be Irish. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 15 15:02:09 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat Mar 15 14:54:44 2014. LOL!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Mar 15 15:09:52 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 15 12:39:30 2014. Of course they have. The gay pride parade in Chicago has been around since 1970, and let's say the Cubs have played at home for say 50% of the time the parade was scheduled, and they both have co-existed for over 40 years with no problem. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Mar 15 15:10:27 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 12:53:27 2014. iawtlp |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Mar 15 15:12:18 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 15 12:56:16 2014. If I owned the Cubs, I would have told Tom Tunney to go jump in the lake. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 15:26:16 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Mar 15 15:09:52 2014. yup.it's about having ALL THE POWER. victim status groups like to flex their muscles. in this case they found a fight and w1n knowing people live in fear of being labeled a racist or homophobe or whatever. |
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Re: Sam Adams And Heineken Pull Out Of Boston St. Patrick's Day Parade |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 15 15:27:49 2014, in response to All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 03:42:09 2014. It's only going to hurt them in the long run; this is not a communist country. Never mind using a certain name on the part of one of those companies.Link There |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Mar 15 15:59:55 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 15:26:16 2014. You're right. If Cubs owner Tom Ricketts had said no, he would have been called a racist and homophobe. We are losing our freedom of speech.I'm going that day up to Miller Park in Milwaukee to watch the Brewers play the Colorado Rockies. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Mar 15 16:03:19 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 15 13:06:58 2014. False.they are not excluded. They can march as can anyone else. Is there a "heterosexual banner group? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Mar 15 16:04:20 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Easy on Sat Mar 15 13:12:34 2014. They can march like anyone else. There's no heterosexual banner group either. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Mar 15 16:05:12 2014, in response to All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 03:42:09 2014. There are Irish people boycotting Sam Adams now too. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Mar 15 16:06:46 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 15 05:00:04 2014. Exactly....just as "heterosexual" groups under abanner flaunting ttheir sexuality either....they March under the cops etc groups. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Mar 15 16:08:49 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 15 09:38:24 2014. There are lots of people boycotting Sam Adams because of this now too. Its double edged. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 16:16:04 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Mar 15 16:05:12 2014. I know. So many Irish bar owners in Boston and around this country. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Mar 15 16:27:55 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 16:16:04 2014. There's a few I heard have taken Sam Adams off tap. Its probably a staple at any bar with more than three taps. |
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Posted by The Silence on Sat Mar 15 16:42:41 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 15 13:06:58 2014. Gay and lesbian GROUPS are excluded if the organizers choose to exclude them. They can exclude anyone who could portray a message the organizers don't want to. Going with the old lie that gay and lesbian PEOPLE are excluded all together does not help your case. Gay, Irish and a cop? march with the cops. Or they could march with a community group. I do not understand this insistence to march as a organization based around sexual identity anyway.It has been established, through a unanimous decision, as the organizers constitution right, under freedom of association, to pick and choose what groups are represented. "One important manifestation of the principle of free speech is that one who chooses to speak may also decide what not to say. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 16:44:05 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by The Silence on Sat Mar 15 16:42:41 2014. I do not understand this insistence to march as a organization based around sexual identity anyway.To be disruptive and in your face. Radicals. Always looking for a fight. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 15 16:56:30 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Mar 15 16:08:49 2014. Crazy times. They just wanna sell beer.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 17:01:24 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 15 16:56:30 2014. Crazy times.Yes. We live in times when you're a racist if you think race should not be a factor in college admissions. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Mar 15 17:17:33 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Mar 15 16:08:49 2014. Doubt there are "lots." |
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Posted by R30A on Sat Mar 15 17:23:31 2014, in response to All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 03:42:09 2014. They just need to get rid of parades altogether. They are just obnoxious wastes of space. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Mar 15 17:35:34 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by italianstallion on Sat Mar 15 17:17:33 2014. IRISH bars. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Mar 15 17:38:15 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by R30A on Sat Mar 15 17:23:31 2014. Then don't go to any of them. They won't muss you. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 15 18:07:10 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Mar 15 17:38:15 2014. The parades force themselves on everyone else. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Mar 15 18:08:58 2014, in response to All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 03:42:09 2014. If I was a stockholder in Sam Adams, I'd demand the CEO be fired. His job is to sell beer, period. Getting involved in an issue like this is a no win situation. From a business perspective, No matter what stance you take, you're gonna piss somebody off so just keep your mouth shut. Its not your fight. From what Im hearin, many pubs across the land are pulling their Sam Adams off the stick. Thats gonna make the bottom line take a hit. You don't hear the Guinness or Budweiser folks shooting their mouths off. After all, with some competition out of the way, The'll cash in |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 15 18:26:44 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 13:11:43 2014. Yes, but gays and lesbians are not permitted to march as out, proud Irish people, which is the whole point.LGBTs are not the "most powerful" minority group in America today, and the only "agenda" I'm aware of in the LGBT community, is to obtain for ourselves the same rights everyone else already has. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 15 18:37:16 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 15 18:26:44 2014. Being an out and proud gay person is stupid. It's just as stupid as being out and proud about your ethnicity.Oh, wait. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Mar 15 18:47:29 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Mar 15 18:08:58 2014. Good post |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Mar 15 18:52:42 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Mar 15 18:08:58 2014. Why should a corporation be expected to fund what they find as hateful behavior? Think about it, that's what is actually happening here. Sam Adams will recover from ths long term. I wouldn't write them off. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 15 18:56:17 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Mar 15 18:08:58 2014. Exactly!! |
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Posted by pd11604 on Sat Mar 15 18:58:04 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 15 05:00:04 2014. I'm afraid their answer will be -They're here, they're queer, get used to it |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 15 19:06:24 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Mar 15 15:12:18 2014. Yeah but he didn't and was accomodating to his fellow Chicagoans. They ended up playing a double header and it wasn't the end of the world.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 15 19:40:33 2014, in response to All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 15 03:42:09 2014. Corporations that take sides on political issues do so at their own peril. They owe their allegiance to their stock holders and not a side of a political debate. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Mar 15 20:22:35 2014, in response to Re: All The Power: Sam Adams Pulls Out Of St. Patrick's Day Parade, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 15 19:06:24 2014. Sunday in the summer has never been a day off for baseball. |
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