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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 18:10:38 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 5 17:58:56 2014. Total red herring and I'm sure that you realize it. Social security & Medicare do not dis-incentivize work. They encourages it. You need to work to a prescribed age before you qualify. My claim that obamacare will dis incentivize work is sound and was cited in the CBO report which you are obviously just picking and choosing arguments that you support. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 5 18:11:54 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 18:10:38 2014. So why do most people take Social Security at the earliest possible age (at 62) at a big cut instead of waiting to max out on it at 70? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 18:11:58 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 5 17:55:06 2014. You are a complete moron. I left a full time job and someone took over a full time job. That's not what obamacare is doing. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 18:13:50 2014, in response to Re: NYT: Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 5 17:57:58 2014. Not in the mood to answer me? You respond to me more than any other poster here. Your nose is growing faster than your butt. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 5 18:19:16 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 18:11:58 2014. That is exactly what it is looking to do. It allows the freeing up of positions for those who would prefer to retire instead of locking them into a job they would rather leave. Just like you did, although you did so under slightly different circumstances. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 5 18:21:35 2014, in response to Re: NYT: Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 18:13:50 2014. You're still not getting the answer to the part D question. Other than that, I'm bored, the snow's clear from my car so I can get out tomorrow and it's not quite time to start dinner. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 18:21:59 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by dand124 on Wed Feb 5 18:06:13 2014. Let me tell you something no little shit. I worked from the age of 16. When I worked, I produced more than my employer required and was promoted several times because of the results that I got. I earned everything that I now receive. Don't like it? Too fucking bad. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 18:25:01 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 5 18:11:54 2014. Because they can and they want to. They still had to work to get it. That's contrary to handouts like welfare, food stamps, HEET, and heavily subsidized medical coverage. Those are dis-incentives. By the way, you disrespect trade unions and the military with your comments. People who put in their time and meet the requirements to receive benefits should not be put into the same category as leeches and parasites. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 18:26:51 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 5 18:19:16 2014. I guess you don't understand the difference - which shouldn't surprise me. I left a 40 hour job with benefits. If it were turned into a 30 hour job without benefits that would be a dis-incentive. Do you get it now? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 18:28:38 2014, in response to Re: NYT: Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 5 18:21:35 2014. If I really wanted an answer, I would have asked someone who could answer it. We all know your propensity for bullshit and lies. Dinner? Did they fill the trough so early today? |
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Posted by dand124 on Wed Feb 5 18:30:28 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 18:21:59 2014. does someone who starts working the same job today get the same pension that you got? do they work less hard? |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 5 18:56:54 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 18:26:51 2014. How's that? You'd still get the same benefits. If you actually had the creativity and ability you could turn that extra time into something even more profitable than x dollars/hour. You never did. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 5 19:06:06 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 18:25:01 2014. He claims to be ex-military. Guess he made that up? |
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Posted by train dude on Wed Feb 5 19:08:39 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 5 18:56:54 2014. Still more than you ever did. You have done nothing but leech off of others |
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Posted by train dude on Wed Feb 5 19:10:21 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by dand124 on Wed Feb 5 18:30:28 2014. No and no thanks to your democratic governor |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 5 19:10:45 2014, in response to Re: NYT: Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 18:28:38 2014. Nothing like yours.And you're looking to mooch off our dinner? Not enough to eat? Apply for SNAP. They'll help. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 5 19:12:52 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by train dude on Wed Feb 5 19:08:39 2014. By running business successfully for ten+ years? |
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Posted by train dude on Wed Feb 5 19:16:08 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 5 19:12:52 2014. Hahaha yeah tell me more. You couldn't even afford medical coverage. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 5 20:50:09 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 16:23:09 2014. Same old shit deserves same old joke. Moo. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 5 21:07:55 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by train dude on Wed Feb 5 19:16:08 2014. After it was sold. Otherwise, we maintained coverage from day one. Sod off. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 5 21:13:34 2014, in response to Re: NYT: Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 5 19:10:45 2014. Nope ... his pals cut that off. No new cases accepted. But we can ship him some crows. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 5 21:34:43 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 5 19:12:52 2014. Yep ... instead of working for a bloated government like he did. Don't you just love republican logic? :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 5 21:35:46 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 5 21:07:55 2014. And *we* paid our share, plus the employer's share. These geniuses have NO idea of how big that employer share actually is compared to the pittance THEY have to pay towards it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 5 21:36:23 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by dand124 on Wed Feb 5 18:06:13 2014. The most ironic part of it all. :( |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 5 21:38:11 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 5 21:36:23 2014. I just want a president who loves his country. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 5 21:50:28 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 5 21:38:11 2014. I'd prefer one that loves OURS. :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 22:23:16 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 5 21:34:43 2014. You worked for the same bloated government. The only difference was that I retired while you fucked up and were fired. Don't you remember that? I see you're still collecting that bloated government pension though. About $725 a month, isn't it? That is tiny but as your mother must have taught you, size doesn't matter. Government pension makes you a hypocrite. |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Wed Feb 5 22:30:09 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 22:23:16 2014. how does it make him a hypocrite? he's not calling anyone a taker. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 22:33:55 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by DAnD124 on Wed Feb 5 22:30:09 2014. Lets understand our terminology. If you earn something, you are not a taker.Pension - earned welfare - taken food stamps - taken Social Security - Earned Disability - Earned HEET - taken Now is there anything else that I can help you with? |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Wed Feb 5 22:38:30 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 22:33:55 2014. how was your pension earned? do you think you'd get one like that in the private sector? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 22:46:02 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by DAnD124 on Wed Feb 5 22:38:30 2014. Whether or not you get one in the private sector is irrelevant. When I accepted my job it came with certain benefits. One of them was a pension. If I put in 25 or more years and reached the age of 55 or more, then I would get a certain percentage of my average salary (over my best 3 years). I accepted the job with that benefit. Do you think that I should turn it down? If you think that the job is so great, apply for it. Just be willing to work all hours. Work weekends. Work holidays. Work storms when your family has not been tended to. Be unable to get vacations in the summer. If you are unhappy with the private sector. try to do my former job. |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Wed Feb 5 23:11:54 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 22:46:02 2014. funny how you turn into a liberal when it comes to your check. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 5 23:21:19 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by DAnD124 on Wed Feb 5 22:38:30 2014. there was a time when civil service jobs had to offer good terms to attract people.it;s a shitty life. work weekends. nights. more nights. holidays. don;t see much of your kids during school days. times have changed. they can offer less attractive packages to draw employees, |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 23:23:20 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by DAnD124 on Wed Feb 5 23:11:54 2014. I earned what I get. I realize that sucks for you but that's the way it is. You don't think its fair, write the governor. You want the same thing, go take the job and earn it. Just don't go into my pocket looking for things that you didn't earn. If you think that makes me a liberal, then it makes you an ass. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 23:26:02 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 5 23:21:19 2014. What's the difference. A petty little shit like him couldn't last in a civil service environment. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 5 23:35:28 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 22:23:16 2014. Boy, you just keep scoring zero. Dan Lawrence has pulled away so far ahead of you that he's disappeared over the hill in front of you!So ... for the umpteenth time, let's get this straight. As far as the teeyay went, I never got fired. I was SUSPENDED without pay pending an investigation. How did the investigation turn out? I was EXONERATED! That's right, I was invited back! But during that suspension, I found a better job doing what I wanted to do more than hang out with pinheads like you. I went into radio. And it paid better! So maybe you're trying to say I got fired from the Department of Public Service. Nope ... wrong again! After 10 years of being a useful engineer at the NYS Commission on Cable Television, the agency was abolished by ... (drum roll, please) Padre Cuomo in a deal with Senate republicans because he got tired of their bitching that they weren't getting enough camera time on the NY-SCAN channel we operated. And so, after bingbong shamed Cuomo for "throwing all those people down the elevator shaft" Cuomo had the Department of Public Service take in the entire staff of the Cable Commission into THEIR agency. I spent a little over a year there, discovered that they weren't the least bit interested in engineering, it's an agency of lawyers and to hell with engineering stuff. So we started a software company, and I officially RETIRED from the agency back in 1997, but didn't take my pension. Not fired there either. And you're wrong about the pension amount too, it's less than that. Unlike your selfish self, I took the plan that throws my 12 years of service pittance that ensures that bingbong gets paid for life if something happens to me. Unlike yourself, I don't NEED that money but you don't get any more money if you wait past age 62, so I took it. Finally, I'm not a republican. I have no issue with government paying pension in lieu of shit salaries while in government service. It is YOU who are a republican, pissing and moaning about "takers" and "big government" and all the pension "reform" that your party stands for. So once again, your score: *ZERO* and thanks for playing. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 5 23:37:27 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by DAnD124 on Wed Feb 5 22:38:30 2014. DING! :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 5 23:37:55 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by DAnD124 on Wed Feb 5 23:11:54 2014. DING! :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 23:38:49 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 5 23:35:28 2014. You keep telling yourself that. You're the only one who believes it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 5 23:45:09 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 23:38:49 2014. Nobody cares except for you. So how's that "training future car inspectors" thing you were going to be doing at Transit Tech coming along? I'll bet they're banging down the door for your skills at Excel and making your employees feel like shit and maybe just wanting to kill themselves. Or do they have too much duct tape in stock there? :) |
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Posted by TonyG on Thu Feb 6 00:08:03 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 23:23:20 2014. Others with a similar political viewpoint to you don't think government employees deserve to get the same benefits you so gladly receive. I guess it's ok for you but nobody else. |
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Posted by TonyG on Thu Feb 6 00:08:44 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 5 23:23:20 2014. Most others a similar political viewpoint to you don't think government employees deserve to get the same benefits you so gladly receive. I guess it's ok for you but nobody else. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Feb 6 00:18:51 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by TonyG on Thu Feb 6 00:08:44 2014. So if you wanna lose fat, fast one day a week on 750 calories.Make a stir-fry as your main meal. Add some rice or quinoa and an Asian dressing for flavor. Why attack Train Dude? I think the benefits benefit the public so that the workforce is younger. Who wants a 75 year-old super? |
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Posted by TonyG on Thu Feb 6 00:21:32 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Feb 6 00:18:51 2014. That's not my point. I'm not attacking him on as much as believing it to be somewhat hypocritical that he gets to get his pension and other benefits as a public employee but that new employees in his same job somehow shouldn't receive those benefits. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Feb 6 00:27:07 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by TonyG on Thu Feb 6 00:21:32 2014. Well the people who complain about benefits don;t use common sense.Apply the logic to cops or firemen. I;m not a Democrat but recognize they need a "20 and out" pension because it;s a young man;s job and public is safer with a young civil service workforce. |
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Posted by TonyG on Thu Feb 6 00:27:21 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 5 23:21:19 2014. I guess it's a race to the bottom. The private sector has been cutting benefits for years, now it's the public sectors turn. All the whole the gap between the "haves" and "have nots" grows. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 6 00:31:21 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by TonyG on Thu Feb 6 00:21:32 2014. Or to put it more specifically (my problem with him on this) is that he fully supports those who are doing this to everybody else, and sees no issue with any of it as long as he's getting his. Republicans should live by their own principles as surely as those who oppose them live by ours. |
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Posted by TonyG on Thu Feb 6 00:31:23 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Feb 6 00:27:07 2014. What do you do for employment? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 6 00:34:47 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Feb 6 00:27:07 2014. Absolutely ... and government service is no cakewalk. Folks who do it DESERVE their pension in lieu of the shitty salaries. But again the point is here we have someone who's biting the tit that fed them throughout their career. If you hate "big government" and have a problem with people "collecting" then maybe you should have made other life choices.I fully enjoyed my time with the Cable Commission - I felt that I earned my check every day and then some. I was PROUD of "performing the people's duties." Not so much so with some of the other agencies I worked with, which is why I moved on. Train Dick should be proud of his work and like me, fight on behalf of those coming up behind us and ensure that THEY get a good deal for that work as well. Crickets. :( |
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Posted by TonyG on Thu Feb 6 00:35:27 2014, in response to Re: CBO Forecasts that by 2017 over 2 Million will leave the job market due to Obamacare, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 6 00:31:21 2014. You articulated it better than I ever could. I have an uncle who thinks like Train Dude, he worked for the State of Michigan until he was bought out, gets a nice pension and lifetime medical benefits, and bitches about Obama, Obamacare, and public employee benefits. It was ok when he got his benefits, but when it doesn't benefit him, the government is too bloated and taxes are too high. |
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