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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by TRANSIT JEFF on Sun Aug 30 01:09:00 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 30 00:05:50 2009.

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Egg Harbor Twp. does not operate the line into Delaware.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by (5) Bronx Exp on Sun Aug 30 01:18:24 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by TRANSIT JEFF on Sun Aug 30 01:09:00 2009.

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Who said that?

Salem County Transit operates it.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by TRANSIT JEFF on Sun Aug 30 01:23:22 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by (5) Bronx Exp on Sun Aug 30 01:18:24 2009.

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AMoreira81 said he guessed that it operated out of Egg Harbor Twp. garage. I informed him that it does not.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 30 01:29:01 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by TRANSIT JEFF on Sun Aug 30 00:58:21 2009.

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The Atlantic City Line and Atlantic City Express service are two totally different services.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 30 01:30:41 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Aug 30 00:19:27 2009.

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Thanks for the photo and info. When I save up enough money to ride a cab back into Wilmington in case the 468 screws me over, I'll fan the 423 just to say I did.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Aug 30 08:57:34 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by (5) Bronx Exp on Sun Aug 30 01:07:39 2009.

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What defines a bathroom needed route? I guess where most of the people are riding end to end? It does amaze me how long some of these local routes are - just feel sorry for the poor bloke who needs to use the potty and has 2.5 hours to go on his bus ride!

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Sun Aug 30 11:52:53 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Aug 30 08:57:34 2009.

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If I were to speculate it would be the market the route operates in - the 319 dons lav-equipped MCI's because of the service it provides (express to AC via Toms River on the parkway).

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by TRANSIT JEFF on Sun Aug 30 20:47:39 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by metrolinecoach111 on Sun Aug 30 11:52:53 2009.

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It has to do with the mileage of the route, not the market or time involved.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by TRANSIT JEFF on Sun Aug 30 20:49:52 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 30 01:29:01 2009.

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True, but multilevel coaches "are" operating on the line and can be ridden. It's only $ 29 dollars "one-way" from Atlantic City to Newark or NYC.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by ctrabs74 on Tue Sep 1 16:39:47 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 29 23:54:02 2009.

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Salem County does not have any Flxibles - they have Novas only. The Novas replaced the 2000-series (they might actually have been 1500-series) Flxibles at the tail end of the Nova deliveries.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by ctrabs74 on Tue Sep 1 16:44:03 2009, in response to NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by TRANSIT JEFF on Thu Aug 27 23:42:34 2009.

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On the other hand, it's not a bad move when you think about it. There's always the chance that someone could be connecting off the 553 to your particular 313 trip. That may or may not happen, but at least that connection is there.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by rionOne on Tue Sep 1 21:05:33 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Ken S. on Sat Aug 29 21:05:22 2009.

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Now that I won't sit back and take. The METRO-Ds are not garbage. Those are some solid buses and dispite the beating that take from these drivers, they still carry on.

I like the NJT NABIs, but with 8 in a shop in one wop, that IS something to be concerned about because if that many buses are in the shop, you've now cut down your spare factor, so if something breaks down out in service. Either you have to get a loaner from ANOTHER garage (got knows how long that'll take to get to the breakdown) or loose a whole interval out the schedule, and that affects who?...

YOU

The Rider, because now instead of waiting 30 minutes for a bus, you're waiting an hour!

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Ken S. on Tue Sep 1 21:33:26 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by rionOne on Tue Sep 1 21:05:33 2009.

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It just felt like the Metro-D was accelerating slowly on the highway compared to the D4000 I was on earlier.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Flxible870b on Tue Sep 1 21:35:29 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by rionOne on Tue Sep 1 21:05:33 2009.

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Amen!!! Finally someone is talking some sense! Good looking T-LO.
The Nabis have quality control issues left and right! They put a brand new transmission in 3589 why, cause there are 9 nabis down! 9! We have 30 NABI SHITS, 9 in the shop out of service and this is everyday! Just because its new doesnt mean its a good bus! We had one bus 5279 hit a pot hole and the leveling valve flipped and the bus bottomed out crashing to the street while driving! The whole front got crumpled in! Now its OOS! It need a new W/c lift and the whole the whole front underneath body and suspension has to be changed! U call this a good bus I call it shit! And in the words of a great friend of mine "These buses have been shit since DAY ONE!"

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Flxible870b on Tue Sep 1 21:38:39 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Ken S. on Tue Sep 1 21:33:26 2009.

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HELLO U ARE COMPARING A CITY BUS TO A CRUSIER WITH A HUGE DD60 ENGINE!

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Tue Sep 1 22:04:07 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Flxible870b on Tue Sep 1 21:35:29 2009.

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Well damn, those NABIs over there make the MTA Orion VIIs look like they were built like tanks lol.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Ken S. on Tue Sep 1 22:09:26 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Flxible870b on Tue Sep 1 21:38:39 2009.

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And Hilton's interstate routes have highway running.

Does Meadolands have the new fare registers yet? Greenville is still using the old ones. Hilton and Big Tree have the new ones which are much smaller and might fit in an MCI with a farebox.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Sep 1 23:39:42 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Flxible870b on Tue Sep 1 21:35:29 2009.

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We had one bus 5279 hit a pot hole and the leveling valve flipped and the bus bottomed out crashing to the street while driving! The whole front got crumpled in! Now its OOS! It need a new W/c lift and the whole the whole front underneath body and suspension has to be changed! U call this a good bus I call it shit! And in the words of a great friend of mine "These buses have been shit since DAY ONE!"

WHAT?! That is AWFUL! I hope that bus is under warranty...

Down here, all the people love the new NABIs, similar to how all the people loved the SEPTA NABIs when they were new. Of course, after a few years, they became one of SEPTA's most hated buses.

I hope that's not the case with the NJT NABIs...

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by busdude2 on Wed Sep 2 06:12:46 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Flxible870b on Tue Sep 1 21:35:29 2009.

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Damn just drive what they give you. You did not buy them so enough already go back and read your posts whine, complain and b*tch. Its like a kid at Christmas that did not get what he wants. Its NJT that has to work this out with Nabi not you guys they will fix the problems. And the pot hole was probably the drivers fault not the bus so put the blame where it belongs.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Sep 2 06:50:27 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by busdude2 on Wed Sep 2 06:12:46 2009.

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Ok, but the driver is the one that has to deal with the bus all day, not NJT management...

Hopefully any issues with the buses will be fixed IMMEDIATELY, as the majority of people that take the bus in NJ will likely have to deal with them at some point.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Flxible870b on Wed Sep 2 11:57:46 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by busdude2 on Wed Sep 2 06:12:46 2009.

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FIRST OFF WHO THE HELL ARE YOU AND WAT CREDIBILITY DO U HAVE WHEN IT COMES TO THE QUALITY CONTROL OF A BUS. U MUST BE ONE OF THESE FOAMER KIDS THAT DOESNT KNOW SHIT ABOUT A BUS EXCEPT HOW TO TAKE STUPID ASS LOOKING PICTURES OF BUSES AND UR PROBABLY TOO YOUNG TO EVEN DRIVE A BUS LET ALONE A CAR. GET A LIFE U DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT THE QUALITY OF A BUS, THE NABIS ARE SHIT AND WILL NEVER LAST AS LONG AS THE FLXIBLES HAVE. MAYBE IF U WERE A BUS DRIVER AND NOT SOME LITTLE ASS KID FOAMER U WOULD KNOW ABOUT THIS ISSUE. MY GARAGE HAS NABIS AND I OPERATE THEM EVERYDAY, HOW GOOD IS THIS PIECE OF SHIT BUS WHEN U HAVE 8-10 CRIPPLED A DAY. IF U DONT WANT TO HEAR ANYONE BITCH ABOUT THE PRECIOUS NABI SO BADLY THEN DONT CLICK ON THIS LINK WHEN U SEE IT. AND WHEN U OR IF U EVER BECOME A BUS OPERATOR AND LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT QUALITY OF A BUS THEN U CAN THROW YOUR OPINION ON THIS FORUM ABOUT THE BUILD QUALITY OF A BUS. SO STICK TO QUALITY CONTROL OR YOUR CELL PHONE, CAMERA AND IPOD. AND FOR THE RECORD I WOULD NEVER TAKE A NABI OVER A FLXIBLE ON ANY LINE.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Bklyn2NJ on Wed Sep 2 12:19:29 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by metrolinecoach111 on Sat Aug 29 23:31:41 2009.

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Meadowlands uses theirs mainly on the 319, but I've seen them pop up on other MCI lines from time to time.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Sep 2 13:06:21 2009, in response to NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by TRANSIT JEFF on Thu Aug 27 23:42:34 2009.

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I wonder how the NABIs at Westchester are holding up?

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Sep 2 13:11:21 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Flxible870b on Wed Sep 2 11:57:46 2009.

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AND FOR THE RECORD I WOULD NEVER TAKE A NABI OVER A FLXIBLE ON ANY LINE.

You guys have no say on the type of buses you use? As awful as the NABIs may (or may not) be, I know the drivers of Washington Twp are relieved that finally, after YEARS of promises, they can drive new buses and not have to make do with the admittedly worn out Metro Bs on their multiple hour runs.

While I support your view on the NABIs, I do detest the statement about how nobody but the drivers can judge the quality of the bus. The NABIs have a lot of bling, yes, but if the bus has a crappy suspension and things are falling off after only a few months, I'd think observant busfan passengers would notice something...

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by TC40102A#9167 on Wed Sep 2 13:30:10 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by rionOne on Tue Sep 1 21:05:33 2009.

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Very Well said Trevor. I couldn't agree more. Like I said in an earlier post I want to truly see how long this love affair is going to last. I would rather ride a 20+ year old bus that is going to get to my destination on time versus and brand new bus that is not capable of getting me there because of quality control issues. Speed and nice HVAC is not everything. Dependability and on time performance is what matters to me as a passenger. No one has time on their watches to play guinea pig to the biggest experiment going wrong in regards to public transportation and this is exactly whats going on in a lot cities across the country. From an operations standpoint when I hear various bus operators voicing their like and dislikes of these buses I just honestly have great concern when they are asking for the older buses because of the core concept of DEPENDABILITY.



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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Sep 2 13:32:59 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by TC40102A#9167 on Wed Sep 2 13:30:10 2009.

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IAWTP.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Flxible870b on Wed Sep 2 13:51:34 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Sep 2 13:11:21 2009.

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Actually do to the Nabis being such garbage we can ask for either Novas or remaining Flexs we have left to use. So dont even go there man.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Sep 2 13:56:34 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Flxible870b on Wed Sep 2 13:51:34 2009.

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? Sorry if it seemed like I was attacking you, I was just wondering why, if possible, you don't just take a Nova or Flx if you hate the NABIs so much.

Tis all.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Flxible870b on Wed Sep 2 14:07:45 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Sep 2 13:56:34 2009.

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Its all good man u got my respect. I do take the Flex over the Nabis. Hopefully by the time the transit models come the bugs will be worked out.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 2 22:19:34 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Flxible870b on Wed Sep 2 14:07:45 2009.

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If you think the bugs will be worked out when the transit models arrive, then how come you said earlier that the NABIs will never last as long as the Flxs did?

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 2 22:28:33 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Sep 2 13:06:21 2009.

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Why don't you find out!? Gee wiz, there's an idea...

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 2 22:29:36 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Ken S. on Tue Sep 1 22:09:26 2009.

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Do you understand what he just told you?

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Sep 3 01:51:34 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 2 22:28:33 2009.

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How about NO!

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by TC40102A#9167 on Thu Sep 3 01:56:06 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Sep 1 23:39:42 2009.

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NABI's seem to have that reputation, I like the 416/40SFW. I am not impressed with the latest variant that NJT has but SEPTA's are truly one my favorites along with DART in Delaware.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by TC40102A#9167 on Thu Sep 3 02:13:48 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by TRANSIT JEFF on Sat Aug 29 03:26:38 2009.

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This is a whole new time, cameras don't do shyt if these folks are going to destroy a transit vehicle, they will do it regardless and this is just a sad fact. People just don't give a damn anymore and this sucks. High Floor buses are not obsolete, they have their place just as much as Low Floor buses do. Low Floor buses just like High Floor buses have trade off's for their features, but the biggest problem for a low floor is capacity and this is the problem we are experiencing here in NYC. We have way too much ridership to purchase so many low floors, we need more high floors of both 40 and 60 foot lengths. I would like to see NJT purchase some 45ft low floors and 40 footers also for some of the lower ridership lines and moderate ridership lines as well.

NJT is smart to replace high floor for high floor suburbans and transits for these lines they are on, I hope they can get these problems resolved with NABI but NJT brought this on themselves in totally changing the core design of a proven bus to accommodate their policy of parts interchangeability, that comes with a price and we are watching that unfold right now. Sorry give me the 20 year old crap any day it is proven technology that works and provides on time service. Too much technology in a vehicle especially a transit bus is just asking for trouble and the passengers wind up paying the price in more ways than one.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by TC40102A#9167 on Thu Sep 3 02:23:59 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Aug 28 22:38:43 2009.

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Thats what happens when NABI is the only one left to build high floor buses with the specs that NJT requested. Bill is correct, that bus will truly last like a snowball in hell, the build quality is truly shit compared to an RTS or Flxible.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by lbt 9415 on Thu Sep 3 04:16:18 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by TC40102A#9167 on Thu Sep 3 01:56:06 2009.

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why does NJT ( and pretty much the Northeast US for that matter ) have oddball specs for their transit vehicles ?

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by lbt 9415 on Thu Sep 3 04:26:24 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by TC40102A#9167 on Thu Sep 3 02:23:59 2009.

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wow, so Orion doesnt manufacture the 05 anymore ???

The specs for NJT are completely wierd to me. I mean, you have those large fans where the HVAC normally suppose to be. Does this method really cools down the engine compartment ? Why not choose the Cummins ISL over the CAT engine ?

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by kcram3500 on Thu Sep 3 07:31:38 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by lbt 9415 on Thu Sep 3 04:16:18 2009.

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There are a few reasons for NJT, some legit...

1 - when NJT bought Transport of New Jersey in 1980 and pledge to replace the aging GMCs, there were no US-made suburbans available. That led to the purchase of MC-9s as suburbans, and they have been unable to "go backwards" now that customers have been riding coaches for 27 years.

2 - service area: NJT needs vehicles that can operate anywhere in the state at any given time, from congested narrow city streets to rural routes that can cover 50+ miles each way. (Many of the current 31x and 55x routes in south Jersey were listed in Russell's Guide as long-distance routes dating back to Public Service.)

3 - NJDOT maintains a restrictive axle load limit because of infrastructure that dates back to the 1930s. This requires unusual placement of components to keep rear axles "light".

4 - NJT solicits customer feedback on interiors. While this makes for a comfortable attractive atmosphere, it puts pressure on NJT and manufacturers to design things that most TAs wouldn't consider. The NABI suburbans require all kinds of extra wiring to handle the over-seat modules in the package racks that include reading lights, stop request buttons, and speakers.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by kcram3500 on Thu Sep 3 07:38:24 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by lbt 9415 on Thu Sep 3 04:26:24 2009.

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That radiator location actually is very efficient, that's why MCI uses it. If you've ever been in a pickup truck with the opening rear window on the highway (or if you're old enough to remember station wagons that had power rear windows), you know that air actually comes in the window... same principle for those high-mounted radiators.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by ctrabs74 on Thu Sep 3 08:17:29 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by kcram3500 on Thu Sep 3 07:31:38 2009.

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Didn't the New Jersey legislature recently pass a law that modified the axle load limit to accomodate potential low floor buses for the GO25/GO28 services (along with the replacements for the Baby Novas at Egg Harbor, Trenton, and Morris County)?

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by busdude2 on Thu Sep 3 08:53:09 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Flxible870b on Wed Sep 2 11:57:46 2009.

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What a AHOLE I'm not a kid and I own my own transportation company. So stop b*tching you cry baby and drive. I would fire your sorry a** in a minute its plain to see you are not a professional or you would not be talking your shit about NJT.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by kcram3500 on Thu Sep 3 09:06:05 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by ctrabs74 on Thu Sep 3 08:17:29 2009.

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I have not heard if such an exception was made.

This was why NJT wanted the NABI CompoBus... the composite body allowed them to use a 45' low-floor bus that could match the seating capacity of the 40' standard-floor buses and still "make weight".

The NABI 31-LFW would not have a problem with axle loading... still weighs less than a 40' standard-floor.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 3 10:00:23 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Sep 3 01:51:34 2009.

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Because you're a moron.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 3 10:02:01 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by kcram3500 on Thu Sep 3 09:06:05 2009.

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Yay, get the CompBus!

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Sep 3 10:16:22 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by busdude2 on Thu Sep 3 08:53:09 2009.

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Wow. With all due respect, it's that kind of attitude that lowers employee moral and causes you to lose great drivers/employees. Hopefully you don't treat your employees like that...

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 3 10:23:03 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Sep 3 10:16:22 2009.

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He probably does, if this post (Posted by busdude2 on Wed Sep 2 06:12:46 2009) is any indication.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Flxible870b on Thu Sep 3 11:07:42 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 2 22:19:34 2009.

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Its cause they wont not strucure wise atleast. Please these NABIS are hilarious. We could be driving them down the block and they will just shift into neutral at 50mph. Backdoors getting stuck, interlocks not working, W/C getting stuck or not deploying, and the new one is piece that hold the front door in place are falling off and there is a steel piece that holds a pully for the generator in the engine that after enough vibration breaks off and cause the battery to die while ur driving. They will never get no more than 10 yrs out of these buses. Esp now that NJT can't even affors Mid life for any buses.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Flxible870b on Thu Sep 3 11:09:17 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by Ken S. on Tue Sep 1 22:09:26 2009.

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NO Meadowlands does not have the new registers yet. Hilton and Big Tree are getting them right now. All Ironbound buses have them.

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Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey

Posted by Flxible870b on Thu Sep 3 11:11:10 2009, in response to Re: NJT NABI buses will start to arrive in South Jersey, posted by TC40102A#9167 on Thu Sep 3 02:13:48 2009.

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AMEN!

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