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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jun 4 23:50:14 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sat Jun 4 15:45:47 2011. The X7/X8 don't do well because they connect Giffords Lane to shopping districts: They do well because they go to Manhattan, where driving is hard and expensive.If you really want to connect Giffords Lane to the Greenridge and New Dorp shopping districts, a better idea would be the following: Make most S79 buses into limited-stop-only buses Use the faster travel times as a chance to increase service using the same amount of money (Plus, the faster service should attract some increased ridership). Use the extra revenue and extra runs squeezed out of the S79 to send 2 buses per hour via Great Kills (they would travel all-local) That way, you connect Giffords Lane to some shopping districts, as well as connect it to Brooklyn, which is something the SIR doesn't do. Even better, it can be done at a very low cost. That was my first idea, to have a branch of the S79, but I came up with the S77 instead after seeing how many people use the S79 around the Eltingville SIR station area, and seeing that it was an opportunity to make the S78 a faster, more reliable route by sending that up Bay Street, but I'll admit that the original S79 idea is probably better in the end. As far as a new service attracting instant ridership, that isn't always the case. There has to be a pent-up demand: The M60 connected a series of dense residential neighborhood with a major destination, helping not only people in Harlem, but people from The Bronx who previously had to use circuitous routes to reach LaGuardia Airport. Let's use the S89 as an example. Ridership took a few months to grow to its current levels, but even at its current ridership levels, there are still a bunch of buses that carry a handful of passengers. You can try to cut back on costs by cutting the service to 8th Street, and you can try to reduce the service a bit, but the point is that this route is still struggling. That's true. I'll admit that I'm not sure if Richmondtown (which would be served by my new S73 SI Mall-St. George via Richmond Road route) has the demand for a local service, or if SI Hospital South Employees really want a bus to the SIR (which would be accomplished by my S71 route). As far as trying to keep the system the same, although Staten Island is growing, there are some aspects that haven't really changed. The fact remains that any route that doesn't provide service to St. George or Bay Ridge will perform poorly. That's not exactly true as the S59 holds its own ridership-wise (although it's still a black hole operationally), but I understand your point. As far as the point of transit being to serve as many people as possible, that is partially true. You have to serve as many people as possible while being efficient with your resources. If you're going to try to run a bus to an area where it only serves a few people (and just because there are people living there doesn't necessarily mean that they will use transit), that isn't being efficient. Neither is providing excess service on any corridor (such as the Hylan Blvd, Richmond Road, and parts of Richmond Avenue, and Bay Street as in your proposals) There's no way Bay Street can be overserved more than it already it is, with the S51, S76 and SIR, but I understand that point too. I was trying to make my plans efficient by connecting the new areas served with destinations I thought people in those areas were interested in going. |
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