Home · Maps · About

Home > BusChat
 

[ Read Responses | Post a New Response | Return to the Index ]
[ First in Thread | Next in Thread ]

 

view flat

Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Jun 5 20:29:25 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Jun 5 19:44:53 2011.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
1) Cutting the S54 back to Seaview Hospital (I would extend it to Eltingville every 30 minutes rush hours only) would just be to save money, which could be used to restore weekend service on the S54. I would try to increase ridership by extending it to St. George, giving Manor Road residents direct access to St. George and generating additional ridership and revenue.

As long as the "S79A" runs up Giffords Lane, I agree with that idea.

2) I don't really think you'll attract too many North Shore riders just by giving them a bus to the SIR. The distance from Princes' Bay to the really transit-dependant parts is already pretty long (a good 30 minute ride on the SIR, not counting the time spent waiting), so any transfer to a bus is already a turnoff for using transit.

Thanks for the info. I know that the hospital down there won't attract as much ridership as Kings County Hospital does to the B12/B44 or even SI Hospital North does to the S52, but you usually think that hospitals are always places where public transit is needed.

3) Great minds think alike. I was thinking the same thing: The S89 should replace the S59 in that area except for trippers.

As far as student ridership north of the SI Mall, I would say that both it and the S89 have a fairly large percentage of student riders. You see the difference in the loads before and after it reaches the schools on the routes. For example, my brother takes the S59 to go to his middle school (by Rockland Avenue), and he says that the bus can go from almost completely crushloaded to just having a few standees after it leaves the stop. And the thing is that a lot of the people remaining are students going to schools further south (those schools by the SI Mall, Tottenville High School, and St. Josephs By the Sea).

During the PM rush hour, I sometimes see it go by and it has a seated load, maybe with a few standees, so it shows that the ridership is womewhat decent (higher than other routes with the "high student ridership" label), but students still make up a very large portion of the ridership.


Thanks a lot for the compliment. I noticed that the S89 helps in the morning, but not much in the afternoon when it starts running after most school kids are already on their way home, and is why a lot of them seem to run emptier than they should past Forest Avenue. It's another reason why I wanted to give the S89 a slight "B103 treatment" and expand its hours slightly to start earlier so it can help out the S44 and S59 along with the already mentioned extension to Tottenville.

4) I wanted the S93 to take Victory Blvd to Richmond Avenue, take Richmond Avenue to Goethals Road North, and then take Goethals Road North to South Avenue. Going back, it would take South Avenue to Fahy Avenue (which turns into Lamberts Lane), and then take Richmond Avenue to Victory Blvd (use Google Maps if you're not sure about what the route would look like).

I figured the S93 would be a better choice than a route to St. George because there are already a bunch of routes to St. George, but not that many to Brooklyn.

By the way, I also had a plan to operate some Saturday service on the S93 by taking the S62 runs that terminate at CSI and turning them into S93 runs.


The only problem with that plan is that riders would have to walk to South Avenue or Richmond Avenue anyway to catch a bus going in the other direction. Goethals Road North is one way, so the bus would probably have to operate south of the expressway, unless you think that the routing would attract riders despite those circumstances. I forgot about how many people use the S62 to the College from Brooklyn on Saturdays, aren't there even short-turn trips between the College and Clove Road for that purpose?

Responses

Post a New Response

Your Handle:

Your Password:

E-Mail Address:

Subject:

Message:



Before posting.. think twice!


[ Return to the Message Index ]