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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Jun 5 19:00:51 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Jun 5 10:03:59 2011.

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As far as Richmondtown goes, I would say that it is like Giffords Lane (on the weekends): There is the S74 at the northern end and the SIR at the southern end. What I would do is have the S54 serve Clarke Avenue rather than Richmond Road, but obviously that can't be done if you want it to serve New Dorp.

I saw more ridership potential coming from New Dorp than Giffords Lane. I remember JAzumah saying that the S54 is merely a "gap-filler", but I just thought that the S79 branch could do a better job serving the Giffords Lane area, and I'm not sure how just cutting it back to Seaview Hospital would be a better scenario than the current situation.

The problem with SI Hospital South is that there aren't any major trip generators nearby. Connecting a hospital with a train that runs infrequently (the SIR) is going to yield a very low ridership route. I think there is nothing that could be done to serve that area: People will have to walk 5 minutes to Hylan Blvd, where they have the S55, S56, S59 (rush hours), and S78.

True. I know that a lot of Hospital employees just drive because I don't see many of them using the bus, but I thought that a bus connecting to the SIR would attract workers from the more transit-dependent North Shore.

The S59 can get crowded at times, but it still has the dubious label of "high student ridership", which is a nice way of saying that there aren't a lot of paying adults riding the route. I've also noticed that, although ridership during rush hour is decent: Generally, there are a few standees, depending on what the scheduling is like (where the S44/S94 and S89 are in relation to the S59)

The S59 seems to get decent "normal" ridership north of the mall, but the S44 is usually more crowded. It's south of the mall where you can clearly see where the "high student ridership" label comes from, and is why it doesn't go to Tottenville 24/7 anymore. I wanted to extend the S89 down there to attract any Jersey-bound commuters (the S59 would still make trippers to Tottenville High School) from there that used to take the 144.

By the way, if you want a corridor that could really use the service, look at the service road of the SIE between Richmond Avenue and South Avenue. Because it is fairly isolated (there is the SIE on one side of the neighborhood and a forest on the south side of Lamberts Lane on the other side), there is no east-west bus in the area (since it is isolated, it is a long walk to the S48 or S62).

I proposed solving this problem by an S93 extension to Arlington, but maybe your S67 would be able to serve that area instead.


How would your S93 extension go? I noticed that quite a few people along Watchogue Road used the old S67, and I wanted to "reinvent" the S67 as a route that can get decent turnover in addition to providing Ferry-bound service to Grymes Hill and Willowbrook, and supplementing the S61 and S62.

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