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Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street) |
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Posted by subwaySURF on Sat Jul 24 23:09:53 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 24 23:01:52 2010. Check your EU shit at the door. It's OFF TOPIC here. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 24 23:11:26 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by subwaySURF on Sat Jul 24 23:09:53 2010. I'm not the one that brough up Bosnia. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 24 23:12:05 2010, in response to Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street, posted by HarryP on Fri Jul 23 20:02:52 2010. Looks like this is becoming a trendOnly with him. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat Jul 24 23:20:23 2010, in response to Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 24 23:12:05 2010. Not necessarily:Another encounter Here is one at NJT Yet another at NYCT Some photographers are simply accepting harassment and not complaining about it so for every incident that gets ranted about on the web I am sure that there are dozens more that we do not hear about. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 24 23:27:00 2010, in response to Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street, posted by BMTLines on Sat Jul 24 23:20:23 2010. None of those are of the OP's caliber. And maybe you noticed that this has increased the further left US politics have gone . . . ? |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 24 23:35:33 2010, in response to Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 24 23:27:00 2010. lol. And some say that you don't have a sense of humor! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 24 23:55:19 2010, in response to Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 24 23:35:33 2010. I have the best sense of humor. Those who say I don't have one are just jealous. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Jul 25 00:08:31 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 24 23:11:26 2010. No one brought up Bosnia. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jul 25 00:43:54 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Jul 25 00:08:31 2010. No one brought up BosniaYou in denial of reality again . . . ? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 25 03:14:08 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 24 23:01:52 2010. Says the person who believes the word of the illegitimate EU that there was a genocide, when there's still no evidence. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 25 03:17:49 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 24 15:40:13 2010. I know what you mean.It figures that you would understand the pyschotic rantings of a complete lunatic. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Jul 25 06:54:25 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jul 25 00:43:54 2010. I see no reference to Bosnia, just a broken link. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Jul 25 07:03:33 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 25 03:14:08 2010. rotflmao....haven't seen that pic in a while and it's applies to trollog |
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Posted by R Pansepcc on Sun Jul 25 08:21:38 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 24 19:57:22 2010. I've never had my equipment stolen by the police, but I have been harassed in NJ, NY, Bos, & Phi. Bayonne, NJ & Philly incidents have soured my opinion of police forever. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 25 09:01:43 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by R Pansepcc on Sun Jul 25 08:21:38 2010. Didn't you post a picture of someone in law enforcement just about to bother you for taking pictures? This was about a year or two ago. I think the photo was from Boston. |
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Posted by HarryP on Sun Jul 25 09:22:05 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Jul 25 06:54:25 2010. I've had a number of encounters over railfan photography since I started in July of 1958. During that period, I have taken over 90,000 slides and photos. The first encounter was in Boston in 1959 at Mattapan with a MTA employee. "Hey kid, you can't pictures!" Over the next 42 years incidents were few and far-between.Post 9/11, it's a different story: NJT, Metro North, Miami and Pittsburgh. These encounters have been met with direct action -- i.e., letters of complaint, web reporting, urging other complainants to follow suit. As a result, progress has been made. For example, following my run-in with chief of Miami-Dade Metro, Eric Muntan, in May 2009, my letter of complaint and subsequent postings on Subchat and photography blogs, led to a clarification of non-commercial photography, which was posted on a number of websites. At the urging of myself and others, an encounter at Freeman St. between "rtype3995" and NYPD led to the elimination of harassment of non-commercial photographers on the subway system. Since 9/11, others have picked up the ball, such as BMT lines, and hopefully we will continue to be successful in our battle to protect our freedoms. Basically, all I want is to be left alone to pursue my hobby. I'd like to express my thanks and appreciation to those who have supported me in my endeavors. |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Jul 25 09:58:15 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by HarryP on Sun Jul 25 09:22:05 2010. Great post and thank you! |
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Posted by R Pansepcc on Sun Jul 25 10:27:37 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 25 09:01:43 2010. Yes it was a Boston T inspector. He said I needed to stand further away from the tracks. That would have put me in the left hand lane of traffic on Beacon Street. |
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Posted by arnine on Sun Jul 25 10:28:22 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by R Pansepcc on Sun Jul 25 10:27:37 2010. That was cold of him |
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Posted by R Pansepcc on Sun Jul 25 10:29:05 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 24 17:01:58 2010. Why don't you get your camera out and take some pictures sometime? See how you like being harassed by idiots. |
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Posted by R Pansepcc on Sun Jul 25 10:31:39 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 23 21:53:45 2010. You are clueless or spineless. |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Sun Jul 25 12:19:51 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by arnine on Sun Jul 25 10:28:22 2010. You should have asked him show me where to stand ..... :-) Karl M |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Jul 25 12:34:48 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by R Pansepcc on Sun Jul 25 10:31:39 2010. both |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 25 21:39:22 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 25 03:17:49 2010. Yes and I also understand you you being a racist because you are the one who wants all Americans to look like light skinned black persons. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 25 21:42:02 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by R Pansepcc on Sun Jul 25 10:27:37 2010. Ah, one time - not every week. Nilet has so many incidents they could make a new TV series called "365", modeled after "24" |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 25 21:44:13 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by R Pansepcc on Sun Jul 25 10:29:05 2010. As a matter of fact, I was on the CSX trackage today at Newburgh. They were doing track replacement and I was out there photographing the work. Plenty of employees. Plenty of supervisors ......No hassles .................... |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 25 21:46:58 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 25 21:39:22 2010. look like light skinned black personsExcuse me. I believe that he meant dark skinned white persons. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 25 21:54:18 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by Easy on Sun Jul 25 21:46:58 2010. You are right - I stand corrected. BTW - after riding to Newburgh, today - I now qualify |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 25 21:56:07 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 25 21:54:18 2010. lol. Welcome! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 25 22:00:44 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by Easy on Sun Jul 25 21:56:07 2010. My new bike buddy - who happens to be "of color" disagrees. She says that I need a few more hours before I can even pass for a sunburnt white person. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 25 22:09:43 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jul 24 22:53:18 2010. It gets better.... your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 25 22:15:52 2010, in response to Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 23 20:21:34 2010. Since you choose to believe Nilet's version of the story without question, there seems to be nothing further to discuss. You are entitled to your opinion. Where did I say I believed it? All we can do is reply based on the information we have, and that's from Nilet. If more information becomes available, then we can take that into account. Take Pride,
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 25 22:17:39 2010, in response to Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 23 21:28:57 2010. I'm quite suprised that after all these years and as an active member of this forum, that you still cannot accept the fact that when I'm here I am only a member of this forum and do not speak for my employer. Where did I say you were speaking for your employer? I said that with the knowledge you have as an employee and a longtime member of this forum, I am surprised that you would make such ridiculous speculation. Take Pride,
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 25 22:18:09 2010, in response to Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 25 22:15:52 2010. Re-read what you said. You say you don't believe nilet but since his is the only "information" available, you have to believe it. Are you sure ???? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 25 22:20:46 2010, in response to Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 25 22:17:39 2010. In your opinion, it's rediculous. As a non-employee, you'd have no relavent knowledge. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 25 22:22:49 2010, in response to Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Jul 24 20:12:21 2010. I would not be surprised if there are rules forbidding the photography of the MVMs being serviced and other revenue collection processes. And even if there are not, common sense would probably suggest one shouldn't try it. I would be. Because if it's not in the rules we all know and love, then...it's not in the rules! Are you saying you think there are secret rules? Or that there should be? Or that we should try to imagine what secret rules exist and then try to follow them? And I totally disagree that it is common sense not to try it. It is part of the regular routine of subway operations. And many people enjoy photographing routine subway operations. I would not and should not discourage anyone from photographing what is legal to photograph. If it means a police officer properly investing it, that's fine, and I'm all for it. I have nothing against the NYPD properly investigating what some passenger or employee might think is suspicious, except if it is done at such a ridiculous frequency and regularity that it takes away too much time from more important police work. Take Pride,
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 25 22:27:34 2010, in response to Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 25 22:18:09 2010. No, I didn't say you have to believe it. I meant that I responded based only on the available information and the fact that none of Nilet's claims about these types of matters have ever been shown to be wrong AFAIK. So there's no reason to doubt his claims and then post replies based on some other assumed version of events. You can reply based on the available info, and if you're super touchy, then you can add a disclaimer that this reply is based on the assumption that Nilet is telling the truth, but if he's not, then you withdraw your post. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 25 22:30:55 2010, in response to Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 25 22:20:46 2010. Yes, in my opinion, but also based on all available evidence. There is absolutely no evidence that anything happened other than the way he described it. Being an employee would not help you imagine a different, correct, set of circumstances since there are an infinite number of possible scenarios that can play out at any time, and only one did, and only a few people know what happened.However being an employee and an active member of this forum means you should be well aware of the rules and that photography is not prohibited in any public areas as long as no other rules are being violated. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 25 22:33:09 2010, in response to Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 25 22:30:55 2010. cling to that thought. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 25 22:34:20 2010, in response to Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 25 22:27:34 2010. Withdraw my post? Cling to that thought... |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 25 22:38:03 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 24 17:13:41 2010. That is irrelevant to this thread, unless you suggest that you and TD go after Nilet because he doesn't share your right wing beliefs.You always think you've got a "gotcha" until your usual handicap kicks in and then we all have a good laugh. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 25 22:40:04 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 25 22:38:03 2010. lmao |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 25 22:43:51 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 25 22:00:44 2010. Tanning is overrated anyway. Skin cancer, leather skin, having sex with lots of chicks,...who needs the trouble? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 25 22:57:39 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 24 19:57:22 2010. This was the first time I recall Harry posting anything like it. In any event he's not posted this same tired story anywhere as many times as Nilnut does. Yes, he hasn't posted as many stories as Nilet has, but his Pittsburgh story was not his first harassment thread. I believe he has made at least 3 personal harassment threads, and maybe as many as 6 or more. Take Pride,
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 25 22:59:40 2010, in response to Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 25 22:33:09 2010. Continue not making relevant replies. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 25 23:00:29 2010, in response to Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 25 22:34:20 2010. Continue to not make relevant replies. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 25 23:02:54 2010, in response to Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street, posted by PATHman on Fri Jul 23 18:34:59 2010. No he shouldn't have. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 25 23:03:52 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 25 22:38:03 2010. Exactly. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 25 23:16:55 2010, in response to Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 25 22:59:40 2010. You are childish and pathetic, weinberg. I am not playing. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 25 23:17:44 2010, in response to Re: SubChat Exposé (Re: Encounter With Security Guard At 23rd Street), posted by Easy on Sun Jul 25 22:43:51 2010. Let's not gloss over this "sex with lots of chicks" thing :) |
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