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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jul 7 16:09:57 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 16:06:11 2009. Britain was recovering.WE WERE NEVER ATTACKED OR BOMBED ON OUR OWN SOIL, none of our infrastructure or factories were damaged. This of course carried its own penalty, because in other countries where industry was destroyed, new and more efficient infrastructure was built to replace what was destroyed. They later got ahead of us because of that efficiency. ROAR |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 16:11:08 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 6 12:36:51 2009. Especially those steam whistles . . . |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 16:53:26 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by d_mind on Tue Jul 7 14:50:57 2009. I am also convinced of that. There hasn't been a clue of that yet, but I don't see the real need for those stations once ESA comes. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 16:56:01 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Jul 7 15:00:55 2009. Connecting electric shuttles Jamaica to GCT?You don't want the diesel riders to connect to a train coming from another branch. That would be worse than Hunterspoint and two subway stops. Yes, and I am a diesel line resident so I know the plight. However, with ESA, the need for HP Ave will be much less. Unless you are lucky enough to work right around Grand Central, today, most HP Ave riders take the train to HP Ave, then take the 7 to GC, and then transfer to the Lexington Line. With ESA, they transfer at Jamaica, for the train to GC, and then get the Lexington Ave line there. There's no additional train, and it's the same number of transfers, except they don't have to cram on the 7 train in between. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 17:31:08 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 16:56:01 2009. with ESA, the need for HP Ave will be much lessThat's what the MTA gets for not working with NJT to create a new "Union Station" elsewhere in Manhattan. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 17:35:24 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jul 7 16:09:57 2009. WE WERE NEVER ATTACKED OR BOMBED ON OUR OWN SOILRight; Pearl Harbor wasn't "our own soil". none of our infrastructure or factories were damaged No; only stretched to the breaking point. This of course carried its own penalty, because in other countries where industry was destroyed, new and more efficient infrastructure was built to replace what was destroyed. They later got ahead of us because of that efficiency No; they got "ahead of us" due to greed in this country on the part of global industrialists. That's the only thing that turned us "postindustrial". Furthermore, not all industry in our enemies' countries was destroyed, and especially with Germany, foolish politicians decided to let people like Krupp and others go free . . . |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 17:38:06 2009, in response to Re:ef (LIC Yuppies get steamed), posted by Subterranean Railway on Tue Jul 7 00:31:28 2009. No need to reef because of one person that called Bush "far-right-wing" erroneously and started spewing lots of propaganda that would be normally part and parcel of sites like Daily Kroak and StinkProgress (and occasionally pops up on OTChat). |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 17:42:08 2009, in response to Re: ef? (LIC Yuppies get steamed), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 17:38:06 2009. Yes, Nothing as extreme as this has been posted on OTChat. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Jul 7 17:45:44 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 16:56:01 2009. I see.And of those who transfer to the Lex now, the ones getting off at 51st would most likely walk from GCT North when ESA opens, saving the subway fare. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 18:13:59 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Jul 7 17:45:44 2009. I think a lot of the people that transfer at Lexington/51st are people that ride in to Penn, but need the East side, and take the E train from Penn Station to the Lex transfer at 51st. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Tue Jul 7 18:17:47 2009, in response to Re: ef? (LIC Yuppies get steamed), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 17:42:08 2009. OTChat is where much of this topic belongs. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Tue Jul 7 18:21:06 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 18:13:59 2009. Grand Central North lets them off close enough, but if they're that lazy, they'll do what sloth mandates.As for right now until ESA opens, it strikes me as smart to evaluate whether some or all northbound V route trains during the AM peak period should go via 8 Av to supplement E route service. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jul 7 18:29:36 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 16:53:26 2009. I hate to see the end of any rail service, but it's undeniably true that LIC and HP will be very little used once ESA opens.I still hope that one day the Lower Montauk can be converted to transit use. Not counting on it, but I;m hoping. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Jul 7 18:49:16 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 17:35:24 2009. Technically, it wasn't our soil. Hawaii in 1941 was a territory and didn't become a state until 1959. |
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Posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:06:41 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jul 7 18:29:36 2009. While it would be nice to see some sort of rapid transit service on the Lower Montauk, I believe there is a problem with freight trains running with subway trains and they need a large part of that line for freight. |
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Posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:07:37 2009, in response to LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Doctor B on Sat Jul 4 09:07:32 2009. Unbelievable how these people come into the neighborhood, probably for a lot cheaper than it would be not near a train yard and then have the nerve to complain. |
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Posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:08:24 2009, in response to Re: ef? (LIC Yuppies get steamed), posted by trainsarefun on Tue Jul 7 18:17:47 2009. Most of this thread is on topic. Politics and transit often meet. |
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Posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:08:58 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 17:31:08 2009. But they would still need to use the subway no matter where they are dropped off in Manhattan unless they could walk to the office. |
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Posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:09:48 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 7 15:56:06 2009. The whole subject of the condos is because of the rail yard. |
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Posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:10:27 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Nilet on Tue Jul 7 13:14:03 2009. Oh dear, you are a lost left extemist. |
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Posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:11:28 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 14:08:34 2009. They shouldn't have gone with bilevels that couldn't be used for the new tunnel and worse they should not have bought those awful locomotives to go with them. |
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Posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:12:46 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Nilet on Tue Jul 7 13:06:26 2009. Wow this gets better as I keep reading. You are the biggest left wing nut this board has seen so far! I can't believe what I am reading. |
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Posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:14:32 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Nilet on Tue Jul 7 12:42:54 2009. "The problem is that you have no idea whatsoever where the center is."Based on what I have read of your posts so far in this thread I see it's unfortunately YOU that have no idea where the center is. You are so far off on a tangent to the extrme left that you don't even realize it. |
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Posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:15:44 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Nilet on Tue Jul 7 12:41:58 2009. The extreme liberals probably get banned because they can't communicate like adults so resort to personal attacks on those they disagree with. |
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Posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:16:23 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Nilet on Tue Jul 7 12:37:50 2009. Propaganda? |
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Posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:17:14 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Nilet on Tue Jul 7 12:27:21 2009. Mr Nilet, you are calling the kettle black. Who is being unreasonable here aside from yourself? |
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Posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:18:35 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 7 12:26:29 2009. When people go so far on the defensive to result in children's behavior it's because they can't deal with the fact they are wrong, so when you don't have any other ammo, act like a child.Lion was correct. |
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Posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:21:02 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Nilet on Tue Jul 7 12:13:12 2009. "Just a reminder: Obama is not left-wing, and very few Democrats are left-wing."What are you talking about? Obama is a Democrat, and the Democrats are left wing. The Republicans are right wing. Then there are extremist right wingers and extremist left wingers. YOU are an extremist left winger. In fact a totally over the top extremist. |
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Posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:23:42 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jul 6 13:18:46 2009. Probably - but it's cheaper than Manhattan ! |
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Posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:26:40 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Nilet on Sat Jul 4 23:00:14 2009. Oh my. Clinton and Obama are right wingers? There's not many people in the left wing I see in your completely warped idea of where the middle is. You are far to the left it. You make Mike Moore look like a right wing nut. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 19:40:54 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:26:40 2009. He is just to the left of Michael Moore all right. Moore called Clinton a "Republican president" in his self-hating book Stupid White Men. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 19:43:46 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:12:46 2009. So far left, he can't bear OTChat and wants to turn Subchat back into PoliticalChat. Hmph . . . |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 19:49:33 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Nilet on Mon Jul 6 15:53:09 2009. He didn't dodge anything. You're the one dodging.And you need to read Article 1 Section 9 Clause 2 of the US Constitution. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 19:51:26 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:08:58 2009. Of course. That begs the question as to whether or not the waterfront terminals would be more useful with better subway links. (Imagine Hoboken Terminal and/or CRRNJ Terminal with the kind of subway connections that FBA has?) |
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Posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:51:46 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 19:40:54 2009. Being to the LEFT of Mike Moore is saying an awful lot. I didn't think it was possible until reading this here. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 20:03:01 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by R143 on Tue Jul 7 19:51:46 2009. It's like transplanting DailyKroak posts here. (No wonder cops get suspicious of the guy.) |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jul 7 20:34:03 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Dave on Tue Jul 7 18:49:16 2009. Exactly And no industrial infrastructure was damaged in that attack. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jul 7 20:37:52 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jul 7 18:29:36 2009. Nah... those diesel trains have to go somewhere.I am sure they have little place to store them in Jamaica. ROAR |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jul 7 21:10:03 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 7 12:48:39 2009. I knew you would car. lol |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jul 7 21:12:04 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 7 12:48:39 2009. I knew you would care! lol |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jul 7 21:12:59 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 12:45:06 2009. So you care about what I say? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 7 21:13:34 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jul 7 21:12:04 2009. Huh? I laughed at his good post. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jul 7 21:15:06 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Nilet on Tue Jul 7 13:07:15 2009. LOL yeah. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jul 7 21:16:39 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 7 21:13:34 2009. He didn't make a good post and neither did you. But it is not surprising considering most of the posts you make on this board lately. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Jul 7 21:16:59 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 18:13:59 2009. Not people that transfer at Lex/51, I meant people whose work place is there. Instead of Hunterspoint to 7 to 6, GCT north will be close enough not to make the one stop ride on the 6.And since you mention it, many current Penn to E users who get off at Lex/53 will also shift to ESA and save the subway fare. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Tue Jul 7 21:21:28 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Jul 7 21:16:59 2009. And since you mention it, many current Penn to E users who get off at Lex/53The other issue is many current Jamaica to E users, though - we shall see if ESA much changes that behavior. I imagine that some LIRR riders (not from the Port Washington Branch) destined for Lower Manhattan will try to use ESA to save time, but once they discover how deep the ESA terminal is, they should change their tune. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 21:27:02 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Jul 7 21:16:59 2009. Yes, I understand now, I realized what you meant after I already posted... |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Jul 7 21:33:49 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by trainsarefun on Tue Jul 7 18:21:06 2009. I used to work at Fifth/53. Back then, the northbound E was not so crowded until it reached Penn and then PABT, and service was 14tph. Do they really need more than the current 15tph there? You may also need to cut some C trains to make room for the V. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 7 21:35:15 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jul 7 21:16:39 2009. Yes he did, and yes I did, but there's no way you'll ever understand that, considering the poor quality of your entire posting career. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 7 21:35:40 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jul 7 21:15:06 2009. nope |
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