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Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 25 10:31:33 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jan 25 10:19:13 2008. D5 track just east of Queens Plaza right? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 25 10:33:23 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jan 25 10:23:35 2008. Dont worry in the Spring if things work out Queens Blvd will have Romeo Service 24-O-Seven... |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Jan 25 10:34:44 2008, in response to Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Roosevelt Island 360 on Fri Jan 25 01:06:04 2008. I called it. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jan 25 10:35:09 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 25 10:31:33 2008. That's the one. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 25 10:45:03 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jan 25 10:35:09 2008. Yes a poster here said it could hold a 600 ft train... |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Fri Jan 25 10:45:04 2008, in response to Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Roosevelt Island 360 on Fri Jan 25 01:06:04 2008. Only way a thing like this could be done is if you have an extension track that can go to the bellmouth's to what could of been the super-express connection if there is room. Other than that with lots of F train service, and I have seen this myself at Lex-63, it would be totally be impossible to add Q's there unless the Q gets extended to 71-Continental. Now with the extra R68 going there and the W getting the added R160, there will be a more vast uniform fleet for the Q. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jan 25 10:46:40 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jan 25 10:28:01 2008. How would replacing a line that runs through 60th Street with one that runs through 63rd overwhelm a line that goes through 53rd? The only thing that changes is Queens Line north of QP loses direct access to two stations (Lex/60 and 5th/CPS), which can be reached by either transferring at QP, walking 7 blocks north, or walking 3 blocks south.The V line has been described as being sparsely used, even during rush hours. It needs a good workout. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 25 10:48:43 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Neil Feldman on Fri Jan 25 10:45:04 2008. The Bravo is getting those R68's from the Wiskey whey they start getting rid of those Slants.BTW seen it all week (except on Tuesday) a Coney Island R68 on the Bravo, 2868-2892. I wish they would KEEP it there instead of teasing the Bravo Crews.. Espeically the C/R's, lol lol ... |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jan 25 10:55:42 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jan 25 10:46:40 2008. That the V is sparsely used during the rush is not just irrelevant...it is blatantly false. Lex/53 cannot get by with only one service during the peak. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 10:57:13 2008, in response to Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Roosevelt Island 360 on Fri Jan 25 01:06:04 2008. No. It's unworkable and uneeded. When did Roosevelt Island become home to such whining? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 10:58:33 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Roosevelt Island 360 on Fri Jan 25 01:38:04 2008. What they suggest CANNOT BE DONE!!! Can't say it any louder on the internet. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 10:59:53 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Fri Jan 25 09:58:49 2008. Rules aren't going to change, they were instituted for a reason. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 11:00:49 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by R30A on Fri Jan 25 09:31:04 2008. Exactly. |
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Posted by Russ on Fri Jan 25 11:02:23 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jan 25 10:46:40 2008. How would replacing a line that runs through 60th Street with one that runs through 63rd overwhelm a line that goes through 53rd?The 53rd St line provides for a transfer to the Lex. The 60th St line provides for a transfer to the Lex. The 63rd St line does NOT provide for a transfer to the Lex. If QB riders are deprived of the transfer to the Lex by diverting trains to 63rd St, than many more riders will use the already crowded E train to 53rd St. This is why I don't think that we will see the N train use the 63rd St connector. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 11:03:39 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Ken S. on Fri Jan 25 09:38:15 2008. No way. The F can handle even more crowding than it does now. If necessary, they can add an extra train or two by eliminating one of the 179th-bound E's. RI riders were spoiled by 12 years of near empty trains when service was truncated at 21st St. That was never supposed to be how service was to run. The current service is what was envisioned and they need to accept this. You're gonna stand all the way to your destination. All 7 minutes of your trip ... |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jan 25 11:05:00 2008, in response to Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Roosevelt Island 360 on Fri Jan 25 01:06:04 2008. Just proves that elected officials can be foamers too!ROAR |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jan 25 11:05:21 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 25 10:45:03 2008. Thanks. I guess that the combination of shortening the track and trains continuing to pass it at close to full speed make D5 look shorter. It's a "don't blink, or you'll miss it" kind of thing. |
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Posted by Ken S. on Fri Jan 25 11:06:20 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 11:03:39 2008. I imagine some RI riders will switch to the Q102-N or hire a car service to take them to work and the kids to school if they don't drive the kids to school themselves and then drive to work. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 25 11:07:02 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Russ on Fri Jan 25 11:02:23 2008. The 63rd St line does NOT provide for a transfer to the Lex.Its not a "direct" transfer but its a transfer.. If you got a Metro card you can walk the 3 Blocks and do it.. I tell people this a few times every Thurs and Fri... They want the 4,5 and 6 trains so i tell em what they have to do if they do it or not thats thier choice. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 25 11:07:50 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jan 25 11:05:21 2008. Exactly... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 11:09:21 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jan 25 10:46:40 2008. Have you ever seen an R train between QBP and Lexington Ave? It gets heavy use between these two stations, probably for the more convenient IRT transfer (it was madness back in the day when it was the ONLY transfer option to IND Queens riders). There's no need to mess up the entire IND to satisfy a NON-need. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 25 11:09:38 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Fri Jan 25 09:58:49 2008. Rules are Rules sorry you cant understand this..Thats why they are in place.. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jan 25 11:10:00 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jan 25 10:55:42 2008. Lex/53 cannot get by with only one service during the peak.It doesn't have one service. It has two. The E and V both stop there. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jan 25 11:10:35 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 10:58:33 2008. Can't say it any louder on the internet.Sure you can, see: What they suggest CANNOT BE DONE!!!ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jan 25 11:11:54 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Fri Jan 25 04:15:23 2008. No No No....Haven't you been LISTENING to your LION. Broadway Local = 60th Street (and Montague) Broadway Express = 63rd Street (and Bridge) LION will now *EAT* you for Breakfast. ROAR |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 11:11:59 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jan 25 10:22:21 2008. I can't think of a more assinine idea than overwhelming the 53rd St. Lex connection by eliminating direct access to with the R train via 60th St. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jan 25 11:12:20 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jan 25 10:14:12 2008. That's too out of the way though for most commuters there I'm sure. |
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Posted by Russ on Fri Jan 25 11:12:51 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 25 11:07:02 2008. Have you ever made that "transfer?" How about when the weather is bad? It is sufficiently inconvenient to provide a disincentive to ride the F train for QB riders who need to transfer to the Lex. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 11:13:19 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 25 08:08:09 2008. That would also be impossible since the Q blocks all service coming from 63rd St. at 57th/7th. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 25 11:13:31 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 11:09:21 2008. Lexington Ave on the Slowmeo, and November and Wiskey even during 2100 and 2200 hrs is still a crowded station.Heck most of Broadway well after the last Wiskey has left Ditmars still has a lot of people waiting for that Slowmeo with its 10 to 12 minute Headways.. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 11:13:58 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by zac on Fri Jan 25 09:43:09 2008. How about leaving everything just as it is because it's more than adequate? |
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Posted by Forest Glen on Fri Jan 25 11:14:06 2008, in response to Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Roosevelt Island 360 on Fri Jan 25 01:06:04 2008. Roosevelt Island already has too much service. This idea sucks. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 11:14:48 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Jan 25 09:51:02 2008. Finally, sanity. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jan 25 11:17:55 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Jan 25 03:38:56 2008. Skrue this!Just run one or two more (F) trains during the rush hour. If any trains run north of 57th Street to the 63rd Street Tunnel, then 57th Street can no longer be used as a terminal, ergo ALL (Q) trains will have to go through 63rd Street. Do this and see what happens to QB. ROAR |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 25 11:18:33 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Russ on Fri Jan 25 11:12:51 2008. Have you ever made that "transfer?"Yes i have plently of times,in rain,snow,wind and sleet... How about when the weather is bad? See answer above,you do what you gotta do sometimes. It is sufficiently inconvenient to provide a disincentive to ride the F train for QB riders who need to transfer to the Lex. Um i guess they did it beacuse somebody(or perhaps quite a few people) "complained" about NOT having one? The same way you are complaining now about it being inconvenient i guess correct? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 11:18:37 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 25 11:13:31 2008. Blame the IND planners and their sucky transfers along the 6th Ave. line. I once rode the R at 3 AM from Manhattan to Queens (back in the day when it ran 24/7) and it was SRO zooming through 60th St. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jan 25 11:20:49 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 11:13:58 2008. Hear Here!This is the only sensible thing to come out of this thread. As for the other ideas, stuff the politicians! ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jan 25 11:21:33 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Russ on Fri Jan 25 09:02:30 2008. Yes Yes!And the drug that most are addicted to is Money. ROAR |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 25 11:21:41 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 11:13:19 2008. Of coruse not to mention you have AM and PM Put-Ins on the Slowmeo, Wiskey and the November coming into 57th Street,using those exact tracks. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Fri Jan 25 11:24:19 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 25 11:09:38 2008. But rules can always be changed.... |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jan 25 11:24:28 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 10:57:13 2008. Since Rich people moved there.ROAR |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 11:27:37 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by BMTLines on Fri Jan 25 11:24:19 2008. Sure they can. But murder has been against the rules since Biblical times and that's not gonna change anytime soon. 718 is right, rules exist for reasons, maybe for reasons we foamers don't or refuse to understand. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 25 11:28:36 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by BMTLines on Fri Jan 25 11:24:19 2008. Not down here..They are "superceded" by Bulletins.. This rule book is written on screw-ups like some of us say down here. They will "use a bulletin to "superceed" a rule when somebody does something stupid in breaking it, then using the rule book to say .. "Look you dont have this part in it covering the screw-up i did!!!!" You would be surprised at what goes on in "The House Of Pain" when somebody's Job is on the Line for them screwing up. Think im joking?? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 25 11:29:51 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 11:27:37 2008. maybe for reasons we foamers don't or refuse to understand.Chris you consider yourself a foamer??? Thats deep... |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Jan 25 11:31:04 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 11:13:58 2008. You are a sick individual. ;-) |
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Posted by Russ on Fri Jan 25 11:32:41 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jan 25 11:21:33 2008. Actually, it is not money. It is ego. Politicians care much more about having things named after them than money. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Fri Jan 25 11:32:54 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 25 11:27:37 2008. 718 is right, rules exist for reasons, maybe for reasons we foamers don't or refuse to understand.In the tradition of the Ancient Greeks I question everything and I never accept "rules are rules" or the "law is the law" as a valid explanation. That applies to all the rules that exist on this planet whether or not they involve railroading. I may follow the rule or law but I always want to know why it exists.... |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jan 25 11:36:36 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Russ on Fri Jan 25 11:32:41 2008. True... But all of that takes money.'ROAR |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 25 11:37:10 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by BMTLines on Fri Jan 25 11:32:54 2008. In the tradition of the Ancient Greeks I question everything and I never accept "rules are rules" or the "law is the law" as a valid explanation. That applies to all the rules that exist on this planet whether or not they involve railroading. I may follow the rule or law but I always want to know why it exists....I follow the same example but let me tell you what the "answer" will be beacuse i get this all the time because i question things as well. "Because somebody screwed up and they dont want you doing the same thing".. |
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Posted by shadyelstation on Fri Jan 25 11:43:37 2008, in response to Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by Roosevelt Island 360 on Fri Jan 25 01:06:04 2008. 2006 ridership data shows RI at 1,927,373.I'm sure others have said this already but based on this, 15 TPH peak (F) service is more than adequate. |
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