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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Nov 6 20:45:56 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 20:42:10 2007. To be honest, what harm could this pic do??? I do not see what the big deal is anyway. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 20:46:36 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 20:29:41 2007. Then obviously then can do something about it. I never said otherwise. As you see, I was specifically talking about photos taken from authorized areas. |
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Posted by monorail on Tue Nov 6 20:46:50 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Nov 6 20:43:58 2007. all LOCO and no MOTIVE? |
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Posted by monorail on Tue Nov 6 20:47:46 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 20:44:47 2007. must be sumtin' I can do to change your mind |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 20:48:08 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Nov 6 20:45:56 2007. I don't see what the big deal is either. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 20:48:10 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by monorail on Tue Nov 6 20:45:26 2007. 'I'm just playing defense'LOVED playing defense on the High School Football team.. Took out a lot of Adolescent hostilites.. ;o) |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Nov 6 20:48:15 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by monorail on Tue Nov 6 20:47:46 2007. Like what............? |
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Posted by monorail on Tue Nov 6 20:48:40 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 20:48:08 2007. all depends on who's holding the cards |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Tue Nov 6 20:48:54 2007, in response to Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Nov 6 20:27:31 2007. I'm learning. The train talks back to me way too much. |
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Posted by monorail on Tue Nov 6 20:49:48 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Nov 6 20:48:15 2007. like seein'mo'photos of the derailment/collision |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Nov 6 20:49:51 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Nov 6 20:20:20 2007. False statement, actually. If someone with a camera is in a publicly (legally) accessible area and sees a damaged subway car and photographs it, it's perfectly legitimate.What if a photographer had taken this picture from an apartment window overlooking an elevated line and posted it? You guys can post all the nonsense you want about what to photograph or not, but this picture is legit, it's leit for posting, for putting in the New York Times, whatever. No one, not you, not supervision, not the Transit Bureau, has any say over it, except if the photographer were blocking access to employees or other riders. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Nov 6 20:50:14 2007, in response to Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Tue Nov 6 20:48:54 2007. It's just trying to be your friend ;) |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Tue Nov 6 20:50:28 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 20:34:57 2007. I have to agree with you on this one. If an incident/accident happens especially in front of the customers, and someone has a camera or video recorder, there is no rule telling them they can't post those pics. The only way that photo was taken was unauthorized access, an employee taking them and sending them out, or before the area and station was cornered off the pic was taken. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Nov 6 20:50:48 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by monorail on Tue Nov 6 20:49:48 2007. Uh-huh... |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Nov 6 20:51:23 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by FarRock on Tue Nov 6 20:40:13 2007. Don't apologize. You did MTA a favor by posting it. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 6 20:51:35 2007, in response to Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 19:47:07 2007. Yes, I agree with that. If you want your thread read...at least put a title that is appropriate to the subject to get people to read it.Most people just don't have the time to spend all day on the computer reading everything....so being able to pick out appropriate reading by interest of individual readers really helps a lot. |
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Posted by monorail on Tue Nov 6 20:52:28 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by DOB2RTO on Tue Nov 6 20:50:28 2007. 'If an incident/accident happens especially in front of the customers, and someone has a camera or video recorder, there is no rule telling them they can't post those pics.'kinda like when there is an accident on a Disney monorail during business hours |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Tue Nov 6 20:53:10 2007, in response to Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Nov 6 20:50:14 2007. The train don't like my operation. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Tue Nov 6 20:53:18 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Nov 6 20:45:56 2007. I suppose that the picture itself could be taken as a sign that someone didn't properly close off the area, or that it could supply some evidence against the engineer; moreso the former since I assume that the employee directly involved will be interrogated at length, at least by NYCT; and maybe even some agency like NTSB might want to get in on the action.Either way, I don't know enough to say, so this is speculation both ways. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Nov 6 20:54:06 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Nov 6 20:29:12 2007. But they might not want this business online.Actually it doesn't matter what they want! You are only bound to obey their rules if you are a transit employee. As for anyone else - if the picture were taken from a public area then there is nothing the MTA can do about it. A picture like this is even considered newsworthy - If I had taken it believe me I would already have sent copies to all New York area newspapers. |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Tue Nov 6 20:55:13 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by monorail on Tue Nov 6 20:52:28 2007. I haven't heard about that accident. Was it gruesome, and involved lost limbs or decapitation? If so I need pics. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 20:55:39 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by DOB2RTO on Tue Nov 6 20:50:28 2007. Thanks. And even if someone takes photos in an unauthorized area, AFAIK the photos are still theirs to do whatever they want with. All NYCT can do is charge them with being in an unauthorized area (fines, arrest, whatever the case may be). I guess they could also sue to prevent the person from using the photos, but that would be a long shot. |
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Posted by monorail on Tue Nov 6 20:56:12 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by BMTLines on Tue Nov 6 20:54:06 2007. 'If I had taken it believe me I would already have sent copies to all New York area newspapers'but what if you WERE a transit employee? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 20:58:11 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by trainsarefun on Tue Nov 6 20:53:18 2007. I suppose that the picture itself could be taken as a sign that someone didn't properly close off the areaThat's possible. But if it was taken from an in-service platform where trains were still running (I don't know if that was the case), then you really can't and shouldn't close off the platform. People still need to detrain from all doors. There was no safety concern here that I know of. |
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Posted by monorail on Tue Nov 6 20:58:19 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by DOB2RTO on Tue Nov 6 20:55:13 2007. 'Was it gruesome, and involved lost limbs or decapitation? If so I need pics.'don't think so doubt it, but it did require ambulance response if I had 'em, I'd post 'em(unless they offered me a ton of money for 'em) |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Tue Nov 6 20:59:21 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 20:55:39 2007. All NYCT can do is charge them with being in an unauthorized area (fines, arrest, whatever the case may be). I guess they could also sue to prevent the person from using the photos, but that would be a long shot.I won't speak to that first sentence, but as to the last, it is really, really hard to prevent publication of something (that someone wants to publish) unless it deals with stuff like troop movements or other really, really sensitive national security information because our constitutional law understands prior restraints to be disallowed in all but those kinds of cases. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 20:59:28 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by monorail on Tue Nov 6 20:56:12 2007. He cant answer that beacuse he dont know how the beast works..Whats its capable of... THIS T/O invovled in this "incident" is going to find out real soon.. |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Tue Nov 6 20:59:57 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 20:55:39 2007. That would be bad press to sue for something like that. If the person was in an unauthorized area, then someone who suppose to make sure that did not happen, dropped the ball. The photo is still theirs unless the MTA finds out they are unauthorized, and request PD to take the photos and/or camera, while having them arrested for trespassing. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 21:00:04 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 20:59:28 2007. He CAN answer that because he DOES know how the beast works. I think that's obvious from his post. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 21:01:27 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 21:00:04 2007. I wasnt talking about monorail..Unless BMT Lines works for the MTA.. Did i miss that?? |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Tue Nov 6 21:02:53 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by monorail on Tue Nov 6 20:58:19 2007. A ton of money to put them in the papers and t.v. media, or a ton of money to NOT post or show them? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 21:03:27 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by DOB2RTO on Tue Nov 6 20:59:57 2007. Nah they wouldnt go that far...Then again its how we say down here.. Depends who you "talk to" on that radio when something goes down.. With YOUR train.. What "Kind of day" they are having.. |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Tue Nov 6 21:04:59 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Nov 6 20:05:17 2007. Well, there are photo threads of it at TransitStuff and NYC Transit Forums..... |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Tue Nov 6 21:06:30 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 20:58:11 2007. Well, e.g., hypothetically if MTA instructed some of their employees to clear the entire station on the double, the photo doesn't reflect well on that. Not knowing what they did after the 'incident', as it's not so colorfully called, I can't say how real this hypothetical is. |
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Posted by FarRock on Tue Nov 6 21:07:56 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Pablo M 201 on Tue Nov 6 21:04:59 2007. LOL.Even poses. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Nov 6 21:08:49 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 21:01:27 2007. And since I don't work for them the rules that apply to their employees don't apply to me. If the area in question was cordoned off then I would not try to trespass but if I were able to take such a picture from an open public space then I am free to do with it as I please. Thousands of freelance photojournalists take pictures at accident scenes daily from behind police lines - this is the same thing. IF I worked for them then I would follow the terms of my employment. |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Tue Nov 6 21:13:21 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 21:03:27 2007. What happens if they have a bad day? We can care less up here at surface. We don't get the attitudes, except from road personnel (dispatchers or road supers), sometimes. Most are cool, and love it when you do what you suppose to do. They will work with you. If we have a problem dispatcher, or road supervisor on a line.......well we have weapons at our disposal, and either they will one up on us, and we will one up on them by getting cut slips, which means overtime pay. I'll leave it at that. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 21:13:45 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by BMTLines on Tue Nov 6 21:08:49 2007. IF I worked for them then I would follow the terms of my employment.Couldnt have said it better myself... Thank You. |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Tue Nov 6 21:16:17 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Pablo M 201 on Tue Nov 6 21:04:59 2007. Alot of them. Guess it wasn't meant to be hidden. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 21:16:23 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by trainsarefun on Tue Nov 6 20:59:21 2007. Thanks, yeah, I knew it would be hard to do. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 21:17:37 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by DOB2RTO on Tue Nov 6 20:59:57 2007. But PD would eventually have to give the camera and photos back to the person, no? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 21:18:45 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by DOB2RTO on Tue Nov 6 21:13:21 2007. What happens if they have a bad day?Depends on how bad you screw up their railroad... I have heard the way they talk on the radio, then you have to "call" that same person after its said and done, knowing you screwed up just waiting to hear that person tell you.. "Somebody is bringing you down to see us" Expect to pee in a cup after... We can care less up here at surface. Thats Surface this is RTO Night and Day im sure some people in RTO feel the same way about Surface.. Not me far as im concnernd we are all in the smae boat. We all got pass numbers which can be given to somebody in a second.. |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Tue Nov 6 21:18:58 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 21:17:37 2007. It ain't a weapon, so I guess so. What they do with it before giving it back, who knows. Oh wait, Nilet knows. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 21:19:24 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 21:01:27 2007. I wasnt talking about monorail..Neither was I. I was talking about BMTLines. And he in a later post he showed that I was right - he did know how to answer. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 21:22:17 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 21:19:24 2007. Of coruse BUT he said he would "follow the terms of his employment"..Right? |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Tue Nov 6 21:23:41 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 21:18:45 2007. Night and day. Night up here, day down there. As for being in the same boat, I agree. We all get hired out of the same place, and get our yearly/bi-yearly exams at the same places (MAC).Question, do you all get "personals" there? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 21:25:42 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by DOB2RTO on Tue Nov 6 21:23:41 2007. Yeah only one though thats it.. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 21:27:13 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by FarRock on Tue Nov 6 21:07:56 2007. Link? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 21:28:33 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 21:22:17 2007. Too add to that i have seen quite a few rules in that Blue Bible thats says .."IF you work for US you better not do what has been posted here".. Of coruse im sure some "may" do.. If you are caught you deal with the beast.. |
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Posted by FarRock on Tue Nov 6 21:28:53 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 21:27:13 2007. www.transitstuff.iforumer.comLook around. Giving the exact link can almost be as worse as me putting that pic up. |
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