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Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!) |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 4 21:54:33 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by BIE on Fri May 4 20:25:48 2007. Absolutely. Anybody accused of anything needs their own counsel.But what of a violation of rules or regulations. It might cost a man his job, but it will not land him before a judge. The union cannot defend anybody in a court of law. But it can defend a member vis a vis sanctions imposed by an employer. The LION is not a big fan of unions. I have belonged to several unions, after all, I did live in New York once. A good contract with clear work rules and expectations is a good thing for both the worker and for the boss. The LION believes that all employers should treat all employees as valuable assets to his business, assets to be protected. To the extent that this is seldom done it an affront to decency. But if I were an employer, and my workers were in a union, I would treat that union with the greatest respect, for it represents my employees, that is my assets. Conversely, the LION believes that all employees owe respect and loyalty to their employers. If they cannot do this, they should look for a different employer. ROAR |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Fri May 4 22:14:00 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by Fred G on Fri May 4 20:04:13 2007. Bill, you're not wrong, I just wouldn't do it that way and don't recommend it is all. There's no basket of barbed wire between us.Okay Fred, mucho thanko ! Bill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by tankertom on Fri May 4 22:21:45 2007, in response to Re: Another Update: The CCRB Called, posted by JPC on Fri May 4 16:08:42 2007. Hmmm....I am sure that in comparision to so much else going on, having the handcups slapped on the wrists and images destroyed aren't such a big thing, especially if it happened to someone else. But to me, being deprived of one's liberty, not to mention the embarrassment, frustration, emmotional distress, etc, is a big thing. A blatant violation of one's constitutionally protected rights is pretty serious in my book. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri May 4 22:23:49 2007, in response to Re: Another Update: The CCRB Called, posted by JPC on Fri May 4 16:08:42 2007. Actually, there is an example of someone who won a war of attrition with SEPTA. A musician who played in the subway and was arrested over and over again, only to see charges dropped. He sued repeatedly, then finally (after a very long legal battle) got SEPTA to agree to leave him alone. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 4 23:12:47 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by AMoreira81 on Fri May 4 20:39:22 2007. If the meter head is missing and there are other meters on the block, you can get a ticket in NYC. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 4 23:14:06 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 4 13:04:32 2007. That's how it works in most places. |
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Posted by JPC on Sat May 5 00:55:52 2007, in response to Re: Another Update: The CCRB Called, posted by tankertom on Fri May 4 22:21:45 2007. A blatant violation of one's constitutionally protected rights is pretty serious in my book.As it is in mine. And oh boy is it... if things keep going the way they have been, it's only a matter of time before it's 1776 all over again, and We The People tell the latest King George where he can stick it. Not being the warlike sort, I'm hoping it doesn't get that far but I'm prepared for that eventuality. Anyway, I was trying to give an idea for what the court is going to think, and how the court is going to judge. |
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Posted by JPC on Sat May 5 00:57:19 2007, in response to Re: Another Update: The CCRB Called, posted by RonInBayside on Fri May 4 22:23:49 2007. (after a very long legal battle)Aye, there's the rub. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat May 5 04:34:25 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 4 10:48:23 2007. That's correct since the regulation could not be more clear in regard to amateur photography on the subway. A class action would most likely result in a quick settlement and regular refresher classes for cops and cadets on the subject. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat May 5 04:36:20 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by BIE on Fri May 4 07:50:10 2007. Disciplinary issues are also wage issues since they affect pay and promotions. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat May 5 04:39:05 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 4 21:54:33 2007. Loyalty should work both ways. Look at Circuit City. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat May 5 04:40:00 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 4 13:23:06 2007. I agree but that's what happens in Third World countries. People have to put bread on the table. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat May 5 04:47:40 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 4 05:42:39 2007. Nilet was a P.O.W.? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat May 5 04:59:54 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by RonInBayside on Fri May 4 13:54:13 2007. "MTA and NYPD are world class organizations..."The sure are. They are still providing security on the long defunct Fulton El stations. Now that's dedication!! |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 5 05:13:57 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by Newkirk Images on Fri May 4 22:14:00 2007. Back atcha!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by American Pig on Sat May 5 06:40:49 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 4 23:12:47 2007. No, only if other spots are vacant when you parked. Since there is practically no way of proving that the other spots were vacant when you pulled in without the officer actually observing you pulling in, a missing meter is free parking for the full amount of time on the sign. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 5 07:32:00 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by American Pig on Sat May 5 06:40:49 2007. I s'pose it would be an unreasonable question to ask "why don't they fix the meters?" :(It's not like they have a machine on the corner that you can deposit your "parking fee" into in lieu of the meter although some localities on the planet have just such an arrangement ... then again, most place I go don't have the damned things anyway ... |
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Posted by BIE on Sat May 5 07:59:07 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by SMAZ on Sat May 5 04:39:05 2007. Conservatives cannot see that. As business lays off/ fires people they are firing theircustomers. This is why friedmanism is destroying America and should be banned. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat May 5 08:43:28 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 5 07:32:00 2007. It's not like they have a machine on the corner that you can deposit your "parking fee" into in lieu of the meter although some localities on the planet have just such an arrangement ... then again, most place I go don't have the damned things anyway ...These "Muni-Meters" are proliferating in NYC. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 5 09:04:08 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 4 23:12:47 2007. A missing meter, however, has different rules from a broken meter. If the meter is MISSING, then you get the full amount of time. If it is broken, then you only get one hour.This does not apply when a Muni-Meter is present. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 5 09:05:00 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 5 07:32:00 2007. That is exactly what is being done now, however, in many areas---installation of Muni-Meters. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 5 09:11:53 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by Newkirk Images on Thu May 3 17:40:42 2007. However, you could get the issue that the officers never identified themselves and one easily thought they were robbers (and they turned out to be real officers). If someone has never been stopped before (and the area is somewhat high crime), this could present a problem. It happened in the London Underground, where the officers have been allowed to escape all criminal responsibility (although the Police Department there has been hit with criminal charges). |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 5 09:13:28 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by JPC on Fri May 4 10:20:27 2007. Saying that the officers refused to let one record their badge numbers, that can be the grounds for a lawsuit or a formal complaint to supervisors or the CCRB. Just state that the officers tried to intimidtate by preventing one from jotting down badge #s---and that you would testify under oath to this. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 5 09:15:05 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by LA Blue Line on Fri May 4 11:26:40 2007. However, the federal courts here are not exactly friendly to the NYPD. Cuffing someone BEFORE arresting them here could result in problems in the courts. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 5 09:17:39 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 3 22:03:26 2007. Which is why Nilet needs to follow this, including a lawsuit against the police officers for unreasonabie search (the courts would have to determine whether the search was reasonable, but that is why the courts get involved).Of course, the police will appeal any unfavorable ruling and potentially attempt to dig up dirt...even denying that they are. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 5 09:20:19 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by railbus63 on Fri May 4 10:02:04 2007. However, if you ask for a badge # and they refuse to give it...that and that alone is grounds for a suspension...as the mayor and police commissioner have made it clear that police officers are required to do so under penalty. It was a similar circumstance that actually got the rules changed to this. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 5 09:21:25 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by Nilet on Thu May 3 18:44:08 2007. However, getting these TA workers to testify without a subpoena could be very problematic---and a subpoena can be fought. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 5 09:24:16 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by sic transit gloria on Fri May 4 04:00:50 2007. However, Nilet can say that he was handcuffed without being arrested and being read his rights. If the officers wrote that he was arrested, that could be grounds for a perjury lawsuit.Of course, in a similar situation, I would have claimed immediately that the officers caused physical injury (i.e., caused me to twist or badly sprain an ankle or knee). The officers would have to note the injury---and witnesses would also be tracked down to tesitfy against the officers if they claim no injury occurred. It can be done. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 5 09:25:06 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by LA Blue Line on Fri May 4 09:20:09 2007. Actually, if one is asked for ID and doesn't show ID under such a stop, that and that alone is grounds for arrest, as ruled on by the US Supreme Court three or four years ago. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 5 09:25:58 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 4 10:56:16 2007. However, what are the odds that the NYPD superiors might have altered it after the fact? |
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Posted by American Pig on Sat May 5 09:28:37 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 5 07:32:00 2007. The parking meters aren't invincible, depending on where, they fix them fairly frequently. |
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Posted by American Pig on Sat May 5 09:29:53 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by BIE on Sat May 5 07:59:07 2007. I don't care about loyalty, I will buy wherever the prices are lowest. |
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Posted by American Pig on Sat May 5 09:31:22 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 5 09:04:08 2007. Technically, if every muni-meter on a block is broken, broken meter rules apply block-wide.And similarly if every muni-meter is absent, absent meter rules apply block-wide. |
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Posted by American Pig on Sat May 5 09:34:48 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 5 09:25:06 2007. False. One is not required to carry ID. However one is required to state one's name when requested. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 5 09:36:39 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by AlM on Sat May 5 08:43:28 2007. I'll go for this one with apologies to all who've said the same thing ... if you have a RECEIPT for paying, then any ticket for such feebles excuses is covered ... I'm certain that in only a few more years if "sleezy-pass" is installed at the portals to midtown as is apparently planned, then there'll be plenty of transponders with timers to figure out how long you parked and charge you ...But it always bugged me that you could be ticketed in the first place at a parka-meter if it was busticated ... FREE parking is what it always used to mean ... if it bothered the city fathers, then FIX the damned thing. And once again, out here where I live, there ain't no parka-meters except in the (ahem) "big cities" and you drove another block and there weren't any more of them. And people wonder why Wal*Fart killed all those little mom and pop stores ... wasn't Wal*Fart per se, it was those stupid parka-meters. :( Why park on Main Street when you can go to a mall and not drop a penny? Dumbasses! :( |
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Posted by LA Blue Line on Sat May 5 09:39:03 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by American Pig on Sat May 5 09:34:48 2007. Exactly. That is almost certainly not going to be the end if they think that you've committed a crime, but you've met your legal obligation. |
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Posted by tankertom on Sat May 5 09:44:23 2007, in response to Re: Another Update: The CCRB Called, posted by JPC on Sat May 5 00:55:52 2007. In an old court decision a judge commented that (to paraphrase) it is a fact of life that enough cases are decided wrongly by judges and juries that a plaintiff who thinks he is entitled to more will settle for less and a defendant will settle and pay more than he feels he should. Pity the truly innocent person who passes on a plea bargain, is wrongly convicted and goes to jail...or worse.Anyway, I've been proven wrong enough times when I believed I was right that now, even when I think I am right I know I may be wrong. |
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Posted by tankertom on Sat May 5 09:54:29 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by SMAZ on Sat May 5 04:59:54 2007. Not to be a nit picker, but it's the employees that make an organization's reputation. |
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Posted by error46146 on Sat May 5 09:59:58 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by JPC on Fri May 4 15:57:45 2007. So what if my hands are cold? |
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Posted by error46146 on Sat May 5 10:01:47 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 5 09:25:06 2007. So what if that person doesn't have a ID? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 5 10:03:01 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by American Pig on Sat May 5 09:34:48 2007. However, if the officer can't verify your ID, one can be taken in until it can be verified. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat May 5 10:03:28 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by error46146 on Sat May 5 10:01:47 2007. Then you screwed. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 5 10:04:19 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by error46146 on Sat May 5 10:01:47 2007. If the person gives a name, but can't produce ID upon being stopped for probable cause and reasonable suspicion, the police can hold the person until someone else can identify him. |
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Posted by JPC on Sat May 5 10:08:49 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by error46146 on Sat May 5 09:59:58 2007. Well if you're cold it wouldn't be too difficult to get yourself a room where you'll spend the night with a very large man who would perhaps like to get intimate with you. |
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Posted by tankertom on Sat May 5 10:09:08 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 5 09:21:25 2007. A Subpoena can be fought via a motion to quash...but a frivolous motion can result in sanctions against the party and its attorney for making it. Sanctions usually equate to the frivolous movant paying money to the party who issued the subpoena. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat May 5 10:47:55 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by SMAZ on Sat May 5 04:34:25 2007.  Yeah, some refresher classes are certainly needed for the underground folks. One of the TA workers (who may have called the cops) at Utica actually had the audacity to say: "Well, the website says that photography is permitted for (unintelligible) reason, but common sense should tell you that it's not allowed." (In the interests of accuracy, I don't know whether the reason she gave for 1050.9(c) permitting photography without actually applying to photography was inaudible or whether I was simply stunned by incredulity and unable to parse it.) |
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Posted by LA Blue Line on Sat May 5 10:59:24 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 5 10:03:01 2007. True, but let's keep in mind that subway photography is not a crime so it shouldn't fall under these rules. |
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Posted by tankertom on Sat May 5 11:02:31 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by American Pig on Sat May 5 09:34:48 2007. I don't think one even has to state one's name. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 5 11:03:21 2007, in response to Re: Another Update: The CCRB Called, posted by JPC on Sat May 5 00:55:52 2007. "King George" has NOTHING to do with this shit that is happening.He is NOT an NYC cop, and does not set rules and regs for them, he does not tell them what to do in their squad meetings, and he doesn't even tell their bosses what to do. He has NEVER said anything about going after photographers or anybody else, and all of this Homeland Security Bullshit is due to his caving to demoncrap pressures after 9-11. You want a war in Iraq, yeah, he is your whipping boy, but cops in New York? Not Hardly. ROAR |
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Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!) |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat May 5 11:14:00 2007, in response to Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 5 09:24:16 2007. I wouldn't even have to pretend - my arms have an extremely limited range of backward mobility - if I even try to extend my arms behind my back to allow handcuffing I suffer severe muscle cramps in my chest that emulate the pain of a heart attack. I've been to an emergency room several times simply for reaching for something behind my back. |
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