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Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!)

Posted by Newkirk Images on Thu May 3 17:40:42 2007, in response to How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by railbus63 on Thu May 3 13:07:29 2007.

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railbus63,

I had an incident that was reported here a couple of months ago. If you didn't read the post, the incident transpired at Broadway-Myrtle Ave. station. I was approached by two plain clothes officers and asked what I was doing.

In a split second I decided to be as cooperative and truthful as possible. I explained that I photograph as a hobby and that I publish a subway calendar that's marketed at the Transit Museum. I was nice about it and the tone in my voice was upbeat and not condescending.

So there was no turning over of film or camera, no handcuffs or embarrassing display. In the end I stated "Okay, I'll pack up and leave." And that's what I did, end of incident.

Now there are those on this board that may call me a sellout or ass kisser. I don't care, I wasn't in handcuffs and I went home with my camera and film inside intact.

Now why was Mr. Nilet given the shaft. I don't know, since I don't know what he looks like maybe it's was his age or how he was dressed. I don't know, I am 55 years old and have mostly gray hair. I am as threatening to a police as Felix Unger !

Three weeks ago, there was an ERA 207th St. shop tour. First I made a stop at 125th St. on the #1 and took some pics. No one questioned me and it was onto 207th St. station. After taking some pics a TA employee across the platform wearing a vest questioned me. I told him of my hobby, but he shot me down stating that no photography was permitted. For a split second I was felt like telling him off but put my camera away and said "I'll pack up and leave." And that's what i did.

I didn't want to risk missing the tour having the police called on me. So I made the shop tour without incident. Now what could my secret be ?

There are no signs posted about the prohibiting of photography. So if there are no signs, how would I know that? If I tell an employee or police officer that "I didn't know that" and state "I'll pack up and leave".

Some here will say that I was lucky, while others will say I caved in. But in the nutshell if I caught more flies with honey then vinegar, maybe things would have a different twist if I became confrontational.

I intend to keep on photographing the subways.

Bill "Newkirk"



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