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[PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957 |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 27 20:47:03 2022 I hoping the Bronx natives here may remember this. Question is how can such a catastrophe happen ? Shouldn't the signal system have prevented this from happening. Also, it looks like Hi-Vs or Gibbs HI-Vs were pictured here. See other pictures I posted of Hi-Vs below.  Soundview Ave (May 27, 1954)  Unidentified line, no date. I can't read those plate signs, can you ? NOTE: Exposed third rail. 
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Posted by jabrams on Tue Dec 27 22:13:08 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 27 20:47:03 2022. The car on the right cannot be a Hi-V as the door pictured is not at the end of the car. Could that have been the middle door and the half the entire last car was crushed by the other car? |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Tue Dec 27 22:59:42 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by jabrams on Tue Dec 27 22:13:08 2022. It is a Hi V; same style door as 3959. That has to be the CENTER door as you can see the fishbelly underneath, making it a center door. |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Tue Dec 27 23:03:06 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 27 20:47:03 2022. I remember an "accident" on the Pelham line at Zerega Av about this time, but I figured the accident involved R17s which were pretty common at the time. |
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Posted by X-Astorian on Tue Dec 27 23:37:01 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 27 20:47:03 2022. The September 27, 1957 New York Times reported it as on the Broadway Line at 230th Street. It involved two empty trains being laid up after the morning rush. The location is probably correct because the upper and lower signs on 3959 appear to read "Bway-7th Ave Express" and "New Lots Ave, Bkln." |
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Posted by VictorM on Tue Dec 27 23:44:03 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by r17-6599 on Tue Dec 27 23:03:06 2022. Yes, the Zerega Av crash occurred August 29,1957, when one Pelham train rear ended another. Two trippers which should have prevented the crash were clamped down for some reason. |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Wed Dec 28 00:37:02 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by VictorM on Tue Dec 27 23:44:03 2022. Wow, thanks for the clarification. Two R17 trains I suppose. |
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Posted by VictorM on Wed Dec 28 01:00:55 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by r17-6599 on Wed Dec 28 00:37:02 2022. You're welcome. Here's a press photo. Scroll across to magnify. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 28 07:19:28 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 27 20:47:03 2022. That upper pic appears to be on the west side IRT. Pelham line should be 100% R17 by this date. |
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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Dec 28 07:22:56 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by r17-6599 on Tue Dec 27 23:03:06 2022. The Pelham crash was R-17's Tuscarora Almanac – August 29, 1957 – The Book of Wrecks Bronx, New York New York City Transit Authority IRT Division R-17’s 6673 and 6786 are damaged beyond repair in a wreck at Zerega Avenue on the Pleham Line. Source: New York Division Bulletin / April 1988, article “The Last Days of the R-17’s” by Mr. Eric R. Oszustowicz Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Wed Dec 28 07:31:01 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Dec 28 07:22:56 2022. Thanks very much.Crazy; after all these years, details. Amazing! |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Wed Dec 28 07:38:18 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by VictorM on Wed Dec 28 01:00:55 2022. Super! R17s indeed.Odd I never clipped the article out, as I was pretty fanatical about doing so. I recall a friend of the family lived near there. He came over to visit my parents. I mentioned to him that I heard about a crash on the radio. He said he heard the crash and saw what looked like one train car nearly on its side and ready to fall to the street. We had relatives living near St Lawrence Ave at the time. I thought about that accident every time I rode the (6) train up there. BTW is there a way to scan the article so the whole heading can appear? Thanks again. R17-6599 |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Wed Dec 28 07:43:44 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 27 20:47:03 2022. How fast could that train have been going? In daylight, the train ahead should have been clearly seen, regardless of the trippers or signal color.Look at those cars in the other two shots: solid, sturdy and built to last. Not like today's tin cans. I can almost hear those traction motors now. |
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Posted by VictorM on Wed Dec 28 10:18:17 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by r17-6599 on Wed Dec 28 07:38:18 2022. Sorry, this is the only photo I could find. It's for sale on ebay. Unfortunately, as the heading says, they had to amputate the motorman's left foot to extricate him from the wreckage. |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Wed Dec 28 10:25:22 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by VictorM on Wed Dec 28 10:18:17 2022. Gruesome. |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Wed Dec 28 10:26:38 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 27 20:47:03 2022. There was a similar wreck with LoV's on the Jerome Line at Mosholu Pkwy in the early 50's. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Dec 28 10:42:23 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by VictorM on Wed Dec 28 01:00:55 2022. Man what a disaster |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Dec 28 10:47:56 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by r17-6599 on Wed Dec 28 07:43:44 2022. Good question |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Dec 28 11:44:44 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by r17-6599 on Wed Dec 28 07:43:44 2022. Those Lo-Vs were built like tanks...and rode like tanks too. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 28 14:16:09 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by r17-6599 on Wed Dec 28 10:26:38 2022. Oct 23, 1952 
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Dec 28 14:41:27 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 28 14:16:09 2022. Mother Cabrini! |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 28 15:14:01 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 27 20:47:03 2022. The picture is from the #1 line. The accident happened in the middle track on Broadway at the corner of W. 230 St.& Exterior Street. There was a train laid up in the middle track. As the second train approached the motorman had a heart attack, and fell onto the dead man's switch. He passed away. Before or after? I remember this so well. It happened on a Jewish Holiday. I wanted my older brothers to take me closer, but they did not. It happened at about noon time. Very few details can be found in a book called "The Beautiful Bronx". It has a red cover. I am going to send you another e-mail with a picture someone took from their apartment window. 
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Dec 28 18:40:12 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Dec 28 11:44:44 2022. So were the Triplexes and BMT standards. Steel, steel and more steel. |
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Posted by Asgard on Wed Dec 28 18:41:00 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 27 20:47:03 2022. A friend with extensive knowledge of the I.R.T. says:1. The wreck photo the first car is clearly a Hedley, the second would appear to be. The side signs show New Lots and East 180th so it would have to have been on the West Farms el. 2. The next picture has a popup tag that says Soundview Avenue May 1954. A hand door - pilot car in the lead, a trailer behind. 3. The last is a puzzle, the lead is clearly a Gibbs hand door pilot car also look at the strange trucks! Furthermore, the second car also appears a hand door car which would be impossible unless two or more conductors were used - not likely! Also, where is it? The dual third rail limits it to either White Plains or Jerome, yet those rarely, if ever had HiVs. The HiVs were assigned to Broadway Expresses, Broadway Locals, 7th Ave-Lenox Locals, and Pelham, none of which had dual third rail or joint Manhattan el operation. The station wall, the little that can be seen is consistent with Dual Contracts structures which would put it on either Jerome or White Plains. I recall reading once that some HiVs were used for a time on Jerome - apparently the opening of Parkchester and the Pelham Express and longer trains were not fully compensated by the arrival of the R-12s and 14s (the 15s were used for additional Flushing super express operation) so some Steinways were converted to motor cars. The position of the cars would indicate a short train which would not have two conductors yet the second car the trailer does not seem to have MUDC as it appears to lack a guard light and the usual "hook down" pull box opposite the center door for the use of platform men. Yet only two trailers were not converted to MUDC - 4267 and 4367 and this trailer appears to be a 4400 series car. It appears to have passengers, so it is not a work train! |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Dec 28 18:41:14 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 28 14:16:09 2022. "Need a lift?""Gimme a boost!" |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 28 18:55:27 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Asgard on Wed Dec 28 18:41:00 2022. Thank you for all of that valuable info.I noticed in the 3rd photo, the fish belly in the second car seems smaller than the lead car. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Express Rider on Wed Dec 28 20:50:40 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 27 20:47:03 2022. Top photo - both cars are Hedley Hi-V's. You can tell by the door panels - split in three places. The Gibbs Hi-V's are split in two places |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Wed Dec 28 22:06:56 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 28 18:55:27 2022. That difference in the size of the fish belly would most likely be because the lead car was converted to center door. Notice the smaller windows on both sides of the center door. The trailer behind it has the LoV style center door, which it was built with. The fish belly was for structural strength. |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Wed Dec 28 22:08:43 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by r17-6599 on Wed Dec 28 22:06:56 2022. And I also meant to say the trailer has the standard LoV window arrangement. |
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Posted by jabrams on Wed Dec 28 23:47:51 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Express Rider on Wed Dec 28 20:50:40 2022. So the car on the left only had the front (or rear) smashed, but the car on the right had the entire first half compressed to just about the center door. Wouldn't a crash have done similar damage to both cars? |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Dec 29 03:45:40 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by r17-6599 on Tue Dec 27 22:59:42 2022. And 3959 is not a Gibbs, but a Hedley. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Dec 29 03:50:31 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by X-Astorian on Tue Dec 27 23:37:01 2022. I din’t notice that before, but it makes sense since, It is a Hedley which was not a common type of Hi-V used on the Pelham Line. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Dec 29 03:53:29 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Dec 28 11:44:44 2022. Those were Hi-Vs, not Lo-Vs but built just as strong. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Dec 29 03:57:04 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by r17-6599 on Wed Dec 28 07:43:44 2022. I knew many Bway IRT M/M from using V/C as the station for my high school and they could be a pretty wild bunch. Since no regular service was scheduled on the middle tk N/O Dyckman St, signal control was virtually non existent so those M/M often rode on the taillights of the train ahead. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Dec 29 04:04:31 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 28 14:16:09 2022. There was a story about the M/M who had the Jerome wreck. He had a rep for being pretty much of a wild man and although the TA wanted to demote him, the union went to bat for him and saved his job. He was killed in the accident, and the story was thatSidney Bingham who was the NYCTA chairman at the time approached the union rep at the scene and cussed him ot to the bone. What Bingham said was something like “You G-d damn Son of a bitch. You and your lousy union killed that man. If it hadn’t have been for you we could have busted him to C/R where he wouldn’t have had the opportunity to get into this accident." |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Dec 29 04:12:32 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by r17-6599 on Wed Dec 28 22:08:43 2022. All steel Hi-V trailers were identical the the Lo-Vs of the period. They came in to replace the Composite trailers which were originally the only Hi-V trailers till the arrival of the 4200-4500 series trailers. Some of those Hi-V trailers were converted to Steinway motors in the 1930s. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Dec 29 04:16:49 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Asgard on Wed Dec 28 18:41:00 2022. I worked with a few IRT old timers that were so old that they worked for the IRT company pre unification. They told me that on occasion, if there were a shortage of MUDC Hi-Vs, an extra battleship car or sometimes an entire train of them, would be pressed into service and there were always a few extra C/Rs around to crew them. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Dec 29 04:19:25 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Express Rider on Wed Dec 28 20:50:40 2022. The number of panels in the door is not a definite indication, since if a replacement door were needed and the exact one couldn’t be found, a non matching door would be used. One of the photos in this group shows a Gibbs with a single panel Lo-V style center door. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Dec 29 04:28:25 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by r17-6599 on Tue Dec 27 22:59:42 2022. The photo that seems to be taken from the roof of a building near the structure seems to show only 7 cars in the a on the right. That would seem to indicate that the Hedley on the left is part of the same train and not the lead car of the train that struck the other one. That would seem to indicate that the train on the left struck one of the cars on the left and the one on the immediate left was pushed into the rest of the consist. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Dec 29 07:46:19 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by randyo on Thu Dec 29 04:28:25 2022. Thanks, randyo |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Thu Dec 29 10:30:27 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by randyo on Thu Dec 29 03:57:04 2022. True. As a h.s.student, I knew a few motormen on the Woodlawn and White Plains lines. The troubling thing here is, with the exception of a blizzard or heavy fog, which had occurred from time to time, visibility on the "el" was pretty clear, enough to judge speed and distance so to avoid such a calamity.Knowing there would be trains laid up on the middle track, I'd think the motorman would be more cautious. Unless, of course, he had a med. emergency, or was part of the "wild bunch". |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Thu Dec 29 10:35:38 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by randyo on Thu Dec 29 04:12:32 2022. Wow. Now, the subject of HiV and LoV. Does that mean the IRT LoV was the first subway car to use that voltage system? Were the old "el" cars HiV?The Composites I assume were HiV, as I've seen shots of them mixed with other HiV cars. Later, we must tackle the subject of subway car exterior colors. Another baffling topic. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Dec 29 10:46:16 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by r17-6599 on Thu Dec 29 10:30:27 2022. At night, did these laid up trains on the middle track have any type of red light markers on the rear end? |
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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Thu Dec 29 11:29:20 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 27 20:47:03 2022. Hello Bill (Newkirk) This is an easy photo for me to ID. This is a TWO CAR train of Gibbs Pilot Motor cars (both with manual door hand-lever-controls) -- seen northbound at the E. 167th St Station of the IRT Jerome Line -- The train is being used in 1950 or so here on the Polo Grounds Shuttle. The Hi-v's for a short time replaced Composites on the Shuttle by 1950. This was when the Composites were removed and trucks under the Composites were removed to be used under the newly arriving ex-BMT Q types for 3rd Ave El Express service. The front truck under the leading Hi-V Gibbs Car is a Hedley Motor Truck -- I have models of these trucks in O Scale. ALSO NOTE the cut back 3rd rail subway-type paddle shoes on the trucks -- one shoe clearly seen on the Manhattan EL style uncovered 3rd rail still in use from its Manhattan EL division days of the earlier 9th Avenue E service days until June 1940. The subway-type paddle 3rd rail shoes were cut back to clear the short W. 162nd St Tunnel walls (of the Shuttle Line) which were so close to the Manhattan style 3rd rail that the full length normal subway paddle shoes would not clear the tunnel side walls. The Hi-V cars were by at least 1951 or 52, eventually replaced by surplus standard-body Steinway Low- V motor cars which operated the Polo Shuttle line until it closed in August 1958 Regards - Joe F |
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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Thu Dec 29 12:00:04 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by r17-6599 on Thu Dec 29 10:35:38 2022. All the electric el cars were high voltage. About 400 or so were converted to MUDC's. When this was done some of the MUDC's were equipped with low-voltage. The Composites and High V's were high voltage. The Flivvers were low voltage with high voltage controls (whatever that means). The Steinways and Lo-V were both low voltage. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Thu Dec 29 12:14:43 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Thu Dec 29 12:00:04 2022. Fascinating indeed! |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Dec 29 12:38:28 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Thu Dec 29 11:29:20 2022. Ah, so it's the Polo Grounds shuttle after all.Now I do notice the cut back 3rd rail shoes. Thank you Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Dec 29 13:35:41 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Thu Dec 29 11:29:20 2022. 
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Posted by randyo on Thu Dec 29 15:51:51 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Dec 29 10:46:16 2022. From what I can recall of the Bway Line where I lived, layups had both electric markers and kerosene deck lamps at both ends. Upon arrival at the terminals however, the lamp trimmers would have to either fill the lamps with kerosene for the road or replace the ones on the trains with fresh ones. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Dec 29 16:00:39 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Thu Dec 29 12:00:04 2022. Although the Composites were originally Hi-Vs, when they were modified for el operation, their original Hi-V controls and brake equipment were removed and replaced with Lo-V controls and brake equipment most likely because those parts were lighter in weight than the Hi-V parts and weight was an important consideration. It was standard practice on the IRT for the car bodies and operating equipment to be ordered separately and installed by the company. Thus the Hi-V parts removed from the Composites were converted to Lo-V operation and installed in the new steel car bodies being ordered at the same time and these car became the Flivvers. Also new maximum traction trucks with one motor per truck to spread the weigh were installed on the Composites and the original Composite trucks installed on the Flivvers. |
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