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Re: [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957

Posted by Asgard on Wed Dec 28 18:41:00 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The East Bronx IRT Crash of 1957, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 27 20:47:03 2022.

A friend with extensive knowledge of the I.R.T. says:


1. The wreck photo the first car is clearly a Hedley, the second would
appear to be. The side signs show New Lots and East 180th so it would
have to have been on the West Farms el.

2. The next picture has a popup tag that says Soundview Avenue May
1954. A hand door - pilot car in the lead, a trailer behind.

3. The last is a puzzle, the lead is clearly a Gibbs hand door pilot
car also look at the strange trucks! Furthermore, the second car also
appears a hand door car which would be impossible unless two or more
conductors were used - not likely!

Also, where is it? The dual third rail limits it to either White
Plains or Jerome, yet those rarely, if ever had HiVs. The HiVs were
assigned to Broadway Expresses, Broadway Locals, 7th Ave-Lenox Locals,
and Pelham, none of which had dual third rail or joint Manhattan el
operation.

The station wall, the little that can be seen is consistent with Dual
Contracts structures which would put it on either Jerome or White
Plains. I recall reading once that some HiVs were used for a time on
Jerome - apparently the opening of Parkchester and the Pelham Express
and longer trains were not fully compensated by the arrival of the
R-12s and 14s (the 15s were used for additional Flushing super express
operation) so some Steinways were converted to motor cars.

The position of the cars would indicate a short train which would not
have two conductors yet the second car the trailer does not seem to
have MUDC as it appears to lack a guard light and the usual "hook
down" pull box opposite the center door for the use of platform men.
Yet only two trailers were not converted to MUDC - 4267 and 4367 and
this trailer appears to be a 4400 series car.

It appears to have passengers, so it is not a work train!

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