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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 12 17:52:49 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 17:47:13 2022. Ive seen those tubular diaphragms go so far over that you couldn't see into the next car. And the floor plates almost completely separated from the next car. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Apr 12 17:53:16 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Apr 12 14:21:56 2022. Both the 44s and 46s had an emergency switch that could be accessed by breaking a small plastic covering. |
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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 12 17:58:43 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by randyo on Tue Apr 12 17:51:33 2022. True, but over the years, many folks have been killed by walking between all classes of cars. So now lets lock all the doors & screw the ambulance chasers. |
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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Apr 12 18:02:12 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 12 17:47:42 2022. IIRC, U-Haul registers all their vehicles in Arizona (I believe they are headquartered in Phoenix). |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Apr 12 18:04:49 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 12 17:58:43 2022. Locking doors on cars that don’t present any danger doesn’t make much sense. If you look over the years at the incidents of passenger hurt between cars you will find that most of them involved passengers not just crossing but riding between cars and engaging in some sort of illegal activity like smoking or urinating. |
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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 12 18:08:05 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Apr 12 17:41:00 2022. Imagine how that would have turned out?All kinds of scenarios. T/O or C/R going to investigate to reset cord. Confrontation for sure. Shooter taking hostage. Passengers overtake shooter. Pulled cord would be a different outcome. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 12 18:11:39 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by randyo on Tue Apr 12 18:04:49 2022. "Locking doors on cars that don’t present any danger doesn’t make much sense."So lets remove the restrictions on walking thru all the under 75ft cars |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 18:14:46 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Apr 12 18:02:12 2022. This truck came out of Philly. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 12 18:38:52 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Apr 12 18:02:12 2022. OK Thanks. Did not know that. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Apr 12 18:43:59 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 12 14:24:30 2022. Thank you. You may have missed the last sentence on my post.During this time, did you hear of anyone fall between the cars after defeating this feature ? Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 12 18:57:37 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 17:51:16 2022. To some degree, yes. Probably less than cars. But they do tend to migrate to where the current market for them is hottest. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 12 19:49:17 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 12 15:43:27 2022. I left the city 2 decades ago but I want out of the whole New York City area at this point. I'm actually done with New York State too. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 12 19:50:11 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 15:50:09 2022. The plates don't matter most rental equipment even cars don't even have New York State plates. These companies are national companies |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 12 19:50:31 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 17:51:16 2022. Of course people move out of state all the time |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 12 19:52:01 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 18:14:46 2022. It had Pennsylvania plates or it had Arizona plates and it was rented out of Philly? Trucks move all over the country.But obviously U-Haul would know where it came from, since it was rented legally. But you could rent one and for a surcharge move to California (or name a place) and drop it off there. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 12 19:52:46 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 16:07:38 2022. How many shoes have taken place in New York City in the last couple years compared to former years? |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 20:02:33 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 12 19:50:31 2022. Used to be they tried to route rental cars back to where they came from. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 20:05:39 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 12 19:52:01 2022. AZ plates, rented out of Philly, and they got the guy's credit card. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 20:07:15 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 12 19:52:46 2022. Crime has increased in NY, and it has all over the country, including my solidly Red township, and I don't mean shoplifting. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 20:11:22 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 20:05:39 2022. Person of Interest:62-year-old Frank James who has addresses in both Wisconsin and Philadelphia. Officials believe James rented the U-Haul truck in Philadelphia that was found in Brooklyn. The key of the U-Haul van was found at the crime scene in the subway, the official said. social media postings connected to James in which he mentions homelessness, New York and Mayor Eric Adams. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Apr 12 20:24:48 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 20:11:22 2022. Story |
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Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 12 20:34:40 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 12 17:19:37 2022. No, it’s not. |
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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 12 20:35:40 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 12 17:29:58 2022. TNHIW |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 20:39:38 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 12 20:34:40 2022. Olag is weak on crime. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 12 20:44:50 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 20:39:38 2022. Doubtful, but that has nothing to do with it. He knows nothing of our Constitution. |
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Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 12 21:17:57 2022, in response to Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?, posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 17:45:27 2022. You may have a point about him not being "stupid". The cameras at that stations were not working. He might have known that. If thats the case about him knowing about the cameras at that station not working, it might point to this being an "inside" job.On the other hand, he might have been lucky about the cameras & just he was a head case with an agenda who snapped. |
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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Apr 12 21:27:13 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 12 20:35:40 2022. What? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 12 23:06:49 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 12 19:52:46 2022. Sorry, shootings, not shoes |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Tue Apr 12 23:33:07 2022, in response to Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:52:55 2022. Posted on one of the social media pages from a well-known West Coast transit agency (Tuesday, April 12, 2022)...SFMTA | San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency 4h · Following this morning’s reports of violence in the @NYCTSubway, we are devastated by the news & our hearts go out to our transit colleagues in NY and everyone impacted. We are working with @SFPD and monitoring the situation locally. We have contacted the @TSA & confirmed that there is no credible, specific threat for other transit systems. However, we’ve increased our security in and around the Muni Subway. Please remember, if you see something, say something & call 911 or notify the nearest Muni/SFMTA employee immediately. Don’t be embarrassed to question things that appear not quite right or that make you feel uncomfortable. Trust your instincts. TY! -William A. Padron ["MUNI"] |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Apr 12 23:39:29 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by William A. Padron on Tue Apr 12 23:33:07 2022. Several other agencies have increased security on rail as well (MARTA for one, I think L. A.Metro as well). Haven't heard anything yet about Miami Metrorail or Tri-Rail |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 12 23:45:50 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 15:50:09 2022. The latest is that the truck was rented in Philadelphia, Some odd coincidences ...... Hmmmm |
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Posted by gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 23:59:36 2022, in response to Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:52:55 2022. national news coverage:NBC ABC CBS |
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Posted by gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 23:59:36 2022, in response to Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:52:55 2022. national news coverage:NBC ABC CBS |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Apr 12 23:59:37 2022, in response to Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:52:55 2022. lol the NYC mayor office twitter page tweeted a basic video of an R62A 6 train pulling into Parkchester with the text "greatest city in the world".Really bizzare twitter post. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 13 01:25:55 2022, in response to Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:52:55 2022. Have to wonder if the perp has a basic knowledge of NYC Subway trains, and knew the end doors would be locked. It's possible even though it was probably random.Also have to wonder if he read these message boards or nycsubway.org looking for information that might help him carry out his plot. |
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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Apr 13 03:16:57 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 12 18:11:39 2022. I agree with that. No sooner did the MTA design the NTTs with double doors between the cars to make crossing easier, the agency imposed regulations prohibiting the practice. Typical of the cesspool of incompetence that passes for MTA upper management!!! |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Apr 13 03:19:09 2022, in response to Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 12 21:17:57 2022. That's what it could be:If the gun jammed as said, that kept this from being far worse and that subway car being a WAY worse mess than it was. And I can NOT rule out a hate crime on this given many of the victims were of Asian descent AND the (N) I believe passes through Brooklyn's Chinatown. Too many Asians have been targets of those who blame THEM for COVID in many cases affecting such who have targeted Asians and/or the families of such who target such, whether through their or a family member suffering severe affects of COVID or suffered a severe economic downturn as a result of COVID shutdowns where they never were made whole (even though those targeted had ZERO to do with the original spread of the virus that happened to originate in China that some of these types still call "The China Virus"). That's why I think it may eventually be proven to be a hate crime with the shooter targeting Asians. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Apr 13 03:20:47 2022, in response to Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Apr 12 15:04:07 2022. Actually, they have since ruled out terrorism:As noted in another comment, I think this may prove to be a hate crime, however, given how many Asians were shown to be injured the worst AND given how the (N) goes through Brooklyn's Chinatown as I remember. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Apr 13 03:22:16 2022, in response to Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Apr 12 12:29:36 2022. Well, unfortunately, given it appears many of the worst injured were Asians AND the (N) goes through Brooklyn's Chinatown, it may prove to be that the shooter was targeting Asians for reasons unknown. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Apr 13 03:27:29 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 12 11:57:45 2022. That said:As I had already seen by that point, the worst injured were in fact Asians AND the (N) I believe goes through Brooklyn's Chinatown, which is not far from 36th. That's why it would not shock me one bit if this is proven to be a hate crime. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Apr 13 03:32:44 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by randyo on Wed Apr 13 03:16:57 2022. Or:More likely they know there are those who will INTENTIONALLY try to get injured doing that figured they can get big bucks from the MTA. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 13 04:06:44 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by randyo on Wed Apr 13 03:16:57 2022. I agree with that. No sooner did the MTA design the NTTs with double doors between the cars to make crossing easier, the agency imposed regulations prohibiting the practice. Typical of the cesspool of incompetence that passes for MTA upper management!!!At the time there was some deaths causes by stupidity. People riding between cars, doing stupid shit, and dying. I think it happened on an R-40 Slant in the early 2000's. Prohibited riding or walking between cars signage went up so MTA would have a better change fighting lawsuits. As a result of this incident and others the rule went in place. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 13 04:18:48 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Apr 13 03:27:29 2022. the guy left a manifesto of sorts. Ranted against Mayor Adams and homelessness.The homelessness part made me think of salaamallah and the suspect does actually resemble him. But you could be onto something. To plan an attack of this magnitude, he most likely knew "what kind of people" would be on his train. Maybe he wanted Asians. Maybe he knew the end doors on certain trains are locked. He just as easily could have gone to the 2, 3, or 4 lines in Brooklyn and the ridership would be mostly black. Russians on the Brighton Line. Hate crime could be possible. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 13 04:28:30 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 13 04:18:48 2022. when I say "what kind of people" not just in terms of race or ethnicity, but less likely to resist and overtake the perp. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 13 06:42:09 2022, in response to Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Apr 13 03:19:09 2022. His social media was bitching about homelessness and Eric Adams. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 13 06:45:38 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 13 04:18:48 2022. No rants about Asians or Chinese. He could have shot up a train at Canal Street if he were after them.He picked a rather quiet residential area, not a iconic place like Times Square, Union Square, or W 4th Street, where a lot of subway disruptions with police action occur. |
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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 13 06:46:30 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by randyo on Wed Apr 13 03:16:57 2022. ADA laws superceded their local regs. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Apr 13 07:03:04 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 12 23:45:50 2022. The latest is that the truck was rented in Philadelphia, Some odd coincidences ...... HmmmmThe news said the shooter was from Wisconsin. So he travels from Wisconsin to Philadelphia carrying his terrorist gear that begs a question. Did he travel by bus, Amtrak or car from Wisconsin to Philadelphia ? Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 13 07:42:11 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Apr 13 07:03:04 2022. And why not shoot up a subway train in Chicago or Philly. |
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Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed Apr 13 08:09:42 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by randyo on Wed Apr 13 03:16:57 2022. All of LIRR cars now have stickers on the end doors saying you can not pass between cars when the train is in motion to paraphrase. |
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