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Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Jan 9 19:26:21 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 9 10:01:54 2020. Pwnt |
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Re: The incident involving R-179 cars doors was in service on (C) line (Tuesday PM rush) |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jan 9 19:43:05 2020, in response to Re: The incident involving R-179 cars doors was in service on (C) line (Tuesday PM rush), posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jan 9 08:47:49 2020. I remember that it was partway through the R-32 order that they changed it to have door rubbers without the wider part. IIRC, you could still see that the door was designed for the wider rubbers, but the wide part had been filled in.The R-42s were the first to have the grooved rubbers, with the R-44s having the ones with a good fit like today. |
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Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha |
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Posted by bulk88 on Thu Jan 9 19:46:23 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Amtrak706 on Wed Jan 8 14:03:25 2020. An R179 is a R211 with 1998 color interiors. R142, R143, R160, and R188s can trainline with each other. R179s cant. R179s are an experiment of picking another generation of parts by the MTA for the R211s/R262. Door motors without limit switches, only stepper motor feedback is the "revolutionary" design on R179s. |
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Re: R-179 car saga… The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour…haha |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jan 9 19:49:13 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga… The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour…haha, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 9 14:36:22 2020. Critics used to say that an Edsel looked like an Oldsmobile sucking on a lemon. |
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Re: OBS right again Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha |
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Posted by bulk88 on Thu Jan 9 19:49:14 2020, in response to Re: OBS right again Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by randyo on Wed Jan 8 16:32:00 2020. All mechanical electrical parts are by MTA "authorized vendors". A train builder picks subsystems from a list given by the MTA. Cutting from bare metal, welding, crimping, and plugging in wires and turning screws is the only labor involved by Bombardier. Door motors were picked by MTA. |
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Re: R-179 car saga… The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour…haha |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jan 9 20:18:25 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga… The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour…haha, posted by randyo on Thu Jan 9 19:49:13 2020. Ford made more Edsels in one year alone than AMC made the two-seater AMX in three. I bagged a blue '69 AMX this past summer with white go-pack stripes. After dreaming of owning one for so many years, that dream came true. |
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Re: R-179 car saga… The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour…haha |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jan 9 20:19:09 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga… The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour…haha, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 9 15:05:54 2020. Lest we forget the '58 Edsel in American Graffiti. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jan 9 20:19:50 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by zac on Thu Jan 9 18:01:02 2020. They stopped making Edsels on my third birthday, coincidentally. |
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Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jan 9 20:25:18 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by bulk88 on Thu Jan 9 19:46:23 2020. I hope the door mechanism isn't the thing that's preventing trainlining. I mean, how difficult is it to have compatible systems for opening and closing doors? |
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Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jan 9 20:51:42 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by bulk88 on Thu Jan 9 19:46:23 2020. "An R179 is a R211 with 1998 color interiors".If that statement is true, then transit will be stuck with many more lemons. |
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Re: The incident involving R-179 cars doors was in service on (C) line (Tuesday PM rush) |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jan 9 20:53:41 2020, in response to Re: The incident involving R-179 cars doors was in service on (C) line (Tuesday PM rush), posted by 3-9 on Thu Jan 9 19:43:05 2020. The idea behind the grooved rubbers was to provide a tighter seal to keep in the air conditioning. |
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Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 9 21:56:56 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jan 9 14:09:51 2020. On the other hand, when one went in for repairs, once those repairs were completed, the other three would be checked and other defects would be corrected before the cars were returned to service. |
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Re: The incident involving R-179 cars doors was in service on (C) line (Tuesday PM rush) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 9 22:00:11 2020, in response to Re: The incident involving R-179 cars doors was in service on (C) line (Tuesday PM rush), posted by randyo on Thu Jan 9 20:53:41 2020. Actually, the interlocking nose rubbers were needed to insure that the door obstruction sensing system would not fail if clothing or a purse strap was caught between the doors, in order to prevent drags. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jan 9 22:36:27 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 9 21:56:56 2020. Good to know. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jan 9 22:45:54 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by randyo on Wed Jan 8 16:28:34 2020. The problem as was told to me was that the R-1/9 stuck in behind had an asshole to belly button SRO crowd w/o any working overhead fans. Many passengers were overcome by the heat & a few fainted outright needing an EMT escort to fresh air. That in and of itself hastened the decision to boot the R-1/9s off the Broadway Line.Seems the TA suits found an excuse. The prewar equiptment didn't sit well with the Broadway BMT crowd. They thought they saw the last of them when the Triplexs' were retired in 1965 & the coming of the R32s. |
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MTA's Andy Byford press conference on door problem, R-179 car saga (youtube & transcript) |
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Posted by gold_12th on Thu Jan 9 23:39:58 2020, in response to R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by gold_12th on Wed Jan 8 00:31:10 2020. ANDY BYFORD: Good afternoon. I’m Andy Byford, President of New York City Transit. I have a number of my colleagues here today and I’ll ask them to introduce themselves individually. PAT WARREN: My name is Pat Warren and I’m the Chief Safety Officer of the MTA. MARIO PELOQUIN: Good afternoon, my name is Mario Peloquin, I’m the Chief Operating Officer of the MTA. SALLY LIBRERA: I’m Sally Librera, Senior Vice President for Subways at New York City Transit. ANDY BYFORD: We are here today to update you on the matter regarding Bombardier’s R179 train cars, the 298 that we withdrew from service Tuesday evening. The first point I’d like to make as always, is that safety is New York City Transit’s absolute top priority. I want to be clear that we acted here out of an abundance of caution. We do not believe in these incidents that I will describe momentarily, that any passenger was ever in danger or harm’s way, and we will always act to ensure that is the case. Secondly, I would like to make very clear from the outset that the MTA finds Bombardier’s latest and repeated failures with these cars to be wholly unacceptable. We intend to hold Bombardier fully accountable for this issue, and for the other issues we have experienced over the course of this contract. Third, I also want to set expectations here for all of you on this matter – we are briefing you now because in addition to safety, we believe in transparency, because we want to share information, and provide an update for the public – but I should say straight up, at this time we don’t have every answer to every question. We will go to questions and do our best to answer them, but some matters are still under investigation because work and inspection of cars is ongoing. The reality is that one of the things complicating our work here is that Bombardier has not yet fully answered all of our questions. And while we are impatient to get to the bottom of all of these issues, we also know that it is critically important that we get accurate answers from Bombardier. So, let me move on to describe to you the two incidents that brought this process to where we are today – the implications of which came to our attention by Bombardier in the normal course of them monitoring the indications and sensors that are present on the R179 cars. Both incidents presented themselves initially as routine operational incidents – incidents that deserve a closer look, but initially appeared to be frankly nothing out of the ordinary. The first incident occurred on December 24, in which a train operating southbound on the C line south of High Street was reported to have door trouble. The train immediately lost propulsion, as it is designed to do if you lose door indication, and the operator brought the train to a safe stop in accordance with their training. The incident came across as a standard indication. The issue was resolved by the crew, by isolating and shutting down the door and removing the train from service. The Rail Control Center, Maintenance of Way and Car Equipment teams were notified of the incident as is standard procedure via our internal Transit communication system. On January 2, the MTA was notified for the first time by Bombardier that their internal reviews had found that the locking mechanism on the door from this first incident, the incident on December 24, had found that the locking mechanism on that door was not secure and the door had in fact become a few inches ajar en route. Bombardier informed the MTA this was a “one off” incident that had already been addressed and replaced. Despite assurances that this was a “one off,” the MTA immediately asked for a more wholesome, thorough briefing and explanation. The second incident occurred on January 3 southbound on the C line. This incident occurred at Jay Street-MetroTech Station when door trouble was again reported. In accordance with standard protocol, the train crew locked one door panel, the train continued to operate and the train was later removed from service and sent to the repair shop. Again, the Rail Control Center, Maintenance of Way and Car Equipment teams was notified of the incident. And as a routine matter, Bombardier then looked more deeply into the two incidents that had occurred. On Tuesday, January 7, we were notified by Bombardier for the first time of the potential for these two incidents to be more representative of a more systemic problem. Specifically, Bombardier informed us that while trying to get to the bottom of the incidents on December 24 and January 3, which I just described to you, they had discovered that they might have a broader issue with the doors on the cars. Upon learning this we took immediate careful, but immediate, action to ground the fleet. And as I said earlier, that action was consistent our overriding priority and philosophy, namely that our customers’ safety is the number one priority and always will be. Overnight on the 7th of January, our team proceeded to pull all of the R179 fleet, all 298 cars, out of service and replaced them with spare cars, specifically R46s on the A, R32s on the C, and R143s, R160s, and R42s on the J. That’s for a total of 298 cars, representing around 5 percent of our total fleet. So I want to commend first up the team, our operations team, our subways team, our car equipment teams, our Rail Control teams, our wonderful, professional unionized operators who rose to the challenge and who in very short order spent the whole night removing the 179s from service and replacing them with the older trains. It was a fantastic effort, a herculean effort. The team was focused on ensuring that the morning rush of the next morning was impacted as little as possible, and they executed it beautifully. Because of that team’s great work, under Sally’s leadership, there were very few issues with yesterday morning’s rush, and no impact to yesterday evening or this morning’s rush. In fact, this morning we ran full service with no shortages on any of the affected lines. So let’s now turn to what has happened once the cars were pulled out. First up, inspections. Every R-179 car must be inspected and deemed to be working properly and safely and to our complete satisfaction. There is a team of inspectors who are undertaking this task: 1. Bombardier, the manufacturer of the cars; 2. A company called Kangni, which is a subcontractor to Bombardier; 3. LTK, who is an expert firm we have hired as third party. We are not just taking Bombardier’s assurances. We’re having an independent third party give us assurance the fix is the right one and has been properly applied. 4. And of course, our own personnel, our own team here at New York City Transit. Bombardier originally informed us that they believed the complete full inspections of every 179 car, all 298 of them, could be completed within a matter of days. At this point, LTK, Bombardier and Kangni have been inspecting the cars since Tuesday evening and they have performed initial inspections on 3 trains for a total of 24 cars. So 3x8, 24 cars. So clearly this is taking longer, much longer in fact than Bombardier initially expected and to be frank, that NYC Transit would like. We have directed Bombardier to dedicate all possible resources to these inspections and we still want to see more from them. But, and this is a key point, we will not rush any cars back into service until we are wholly satisfied that it is safe to do so. So it will take as long as it safely takes because we want to ensure this process is completed as quickly and safely as possible. But we are also looking at the systemic and procedural issues revealed in this process and Bombardier has agreed on our direction, Sally and mine, to a software upgrade to provide an additional level of assurance to the door condition on all R-179s. So that’s additional work, and that explains why the process is taking longer than we initially thought it would. Now since the grounding of fleet, New York City Transit has taken a number of additional actions: Firstly, as I mentioned, we brought on the expert independent engineering team LTK to conduct their own independent, third-party review of inspections of the cars and assist in determining when the cars may safely return to service. That decision will fall to me and Sally and our team, but we want independent advice to ensure that we have exercised due diligence. Secondly, we are evaluating all legal options against Bombardier, including the best way to recover costs incurred as a result of this matter. And thirdly, NYCT is working with our third-party engineering consultant LTK and Bombardier to identify any necessary changes to ongoing inspection protocols. As I said at the top, this is all preliminary information at this time and our internal investigation continues. But in the meantime, we are pleased to report that all our lines are operating at normal service levels. And again, the PM peak yesterday and AM peak this morning were at full service and we’re expecting the same for the PM rush this evening. And again, a big shout out to our colleagues in frontline positions, the unionized workforce for the herculean work that they’ve done to ensure that we can offer customers full service. We have said many times that safety is our top priority, and that is the principle that has guided throughout this entire process. We will continue to keep you updated on this situation as it unfolds. And with that, we’ll take your questions. http://www.mta.info/press-release/nyc-transit/transcript-new-york-city-transit-president-andy-byford-issues-update-r179 |
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Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha |
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Posted by Steamdriven on Fri Jan 10 00:00:33 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Jan 9 19:26:21 2020. The press release implies that’s merely a few incidents of doors showing a few inches gap, not ‘you’re about to fall out” opening of two feet. Is Byford being straight here? |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jan 10 00:09:30 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga… The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour…haha, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jan 9 20:18:25 2020. Wow that’s really cool.Best of luck man |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jan 10 00:12:10 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga… The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour…haha, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jan 9 20:19:09 2020. Hahahahaha |
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Re: MTA's Andy Byford press conference on door problem, R-179 car saga (youtube & transcript) |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jan 10 00:34:42 2020, in response to MTA's Andy Byford press conference on door problem, R-179 car saga (youtube & transcript), posted by gold_12th on Thu Jan 9 23:39:58 2020. All of the bills will be old bills their serial numbers to be at random. |
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Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha |
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Posted by Goumba Tony on Fri Jan 10 05:08:04 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Jan 9 11:09:11 2020. IMO the only thing that ruins that car from the front is the center grille. Otherwise it really isn't that much different than any other make's late 50s sedan. |
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Posted by Goumba Tony on Fri Jan 10 05:09:33 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by bulk88 on Thu Jan 9 19:46:23 2020. My favorite interior was on the 110B. The green and beige. Those light fixtures were certainly nicer than the standard in ceiling mounts on every other modern piece of equipment, but I guess had their own maintenance issues (like people leaving trash on top). |
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Re: The incident involving R-179 cars doors was in service on (C) line (Tuesday PM rush) |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jan 10 06:31:30 2020, in response to Re: The incident involving R-179 cars doors was in service on (C) line (Tuesday PM rush), posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 8 20:46:22 2020. Interesting, thanks for the background information! |
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Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jan 10 06:38:45 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 9 11:31:28 2020. Look what is coming back for front grilles in automobiles.2019 Altima |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jan 10 08:38:52 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jan 9 20:51:42 2020. Well, after a lot of heartburn and walletburn, the R46s eventually became goo cars. Just took about one wasted decade. Hopefully getting the R179s into good shape won't be as difficult. |
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Re: MTA's Andy Byford press conference on door problem, R-179 car saga (youtube & transcript) |
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Fri Jan 10 09:22:17 2020, in response to Re: MTA's Andy Byford press conference on door problem, R-179 car saga (youtube & transcript), posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jan 10 00:34:42 2020. "In fact, ANY deviation, I'll shoot another hostage!" |
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Posted by MTA T on Fri Jan 10 09:31:39 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jan 10 08:38:52 2020. They don't have cracked trucks, so should be significantly easier. |
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Posted by nasadowsk on Fri Jan 10 10:23:46 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga… The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour…haha, posted by randyo on Thu Jan 9 19:49:13 2020. Or a vagina. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jan 10 10:33:09 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga… The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour…haha, posted by nasadowsk on Fri Jan 10 10:23:46 2020. That was the first thing that came to mind when I saw that. I think they took the "sex sells" mantra a little too far. :-) |
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Re: MTA's Andy Byford press conference on door problem, R-179 car saga (youtube & transcript) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 10 11:01:48 2020, in response to Re: MTA's Andy Byford press conference on door problem, R-179 car saga (youtube & transcript), posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Fri Jan 10 09:22:17 2020. LOL |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jan 10 11:48:26 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Jan 9 11:09:11 2020. More.. I mean, come on already |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jan 10 11:53:22 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Jan 9 11:09:11 2020. More.. I mean, come on already |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jan 10 11:54:10 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 9 11:27:40 2020. You recall correctly |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jan 10 11:59:53 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 9 11:27:40 2020. As I recall, the Edsel was named for Edsel Ford. IIRC it had push button transmission controls on the steering column which was very problematic.Correct , and some Chrysler produces, had the push button tranny, the selector box was on dash at the far left. The buttons use fall into the box. You had to get towed to a service shop. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jan 10 12:06:31 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jan 10 11:59:53 2020. That would be the De Soto, I don't recall the exact year, but as a kid, my buddies dad had one with the selector switch on the dash. made in the '50's.I find one. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jan 10 12:10:23 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jan 10 12:06:31 2020. Thank you.Avid Reader |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jan 10 12:13:10 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jan 10 11:59:53 2020. That would be the De Soto, I don't recall the exact year, but as a kid, my buddies dad had one with the selector switch on the dash. made in the '50's.I'll go find one. 
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 10 12:19:15 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jan 10 11:59:53 2020. 1960 Plymouth Valiant had the transmission pushbuttons on the dash. My father had one. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jan 10 12:20:36 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jan 10 12:13:10 2020. From Quora:Several Ramblers had push button automatics in the late 50s until around 1960. All Chrysler (Plymouth, Dodge, DeSoto, Chysler) automatics were either two-speed (Powerflite) or three-speed (Torqueflite) pushbuttons from about 1955 until at least 1963. I think non-pushbutton Torqueflite was an option in ‘64, which was the last year for their buttoned autos. ’58 and ’59 Edsels had their pushbuttons on the steering hub. Late 50s Mercuries (‘57, ’58 and, possibly ‘59) also came with buttons. Evidently, pushbutton automatics were rather common during that part of American automotive history. My family had a 1958 Dodge Coronet with a pushbutton Powerflite automatic. The most famous ’58 Plymouth Fury in the world, Christine, would have had either a 2-speed (Powerflite) or 3-speed (Torqueflite) pushbutton automatic, despite Stephen King’s novel referring to a shifter lever on several occasions. Push buttons |
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Posted by chuchubob on Fri Jan 10 12:23:56 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 9 11:27:40 2020. A neighbor had an Edsel. One morning he backed out of his driveway and the transmission refused to get out of reverse. He eventually backed against the curb across the street and couldn't move. He called a tow truck. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jan 10 12:28:57 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jan 10 11:53:22 2020. That car wasn't meant to parallel park. lolBill Newkirk |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jan 10 12:30:46 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Goumba Tony on Fri Jan 10 05:09:33 2020. Year , it was pleasant |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jan 10 12:39:12 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 10 12:19:15 2020. What color?
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Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jan 10 12:47:38 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jan 10 12:28:57 2020. Myself I preferred side mounts Or the read trunk mount 
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jan 10 12:56:26 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jan 10 11:48:26 2020. That’s hideous |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jan 10 12:56:54 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jan 10 12:47:38 2020. That’s much better. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jan 10 13:07:04 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jan 10 11:53:22 2020. That car looks like it has large tumors on its rear. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jan 10 14:44:02 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by MTA T on Thu Jan 9 00:29:38 2020. I did not mean to say that the R32s and R42s are in great condition. I meant that EVEN IF they're not in great condition, they're in usable condition. Which, in the present circumstances, is a bit of a blessing. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jan 10 14:44:29 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga... The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour...haha, posted by MTA T on Wed Jan 8 10:52:12 2020. That's what I meant. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jan 10 14:53:16 2020, in response to Re: R-179 car saga… The entire fleet is Out of Service! AM rush hour…haha, posted by nasadowsk on Fri Jan 10 10:23:46 2020. That's the reason why I was told many years ago why that model bombed out. People thought it was obscene. |
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