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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by renee gil on Mon Sep 9 10:52:35 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Mon Sep 9 08:15:18 2013.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by renee gil on Mon Sep 9 10:53:06 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Mon Sep 9 08:13:38 2013.

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cool.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by Mr. D - Type on Mon Sep 9 12:17:58 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 15:20:07 2013.

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Sorry but your statement is not true, Renee. I have proof both photographic & slides of R-38's, R-32's, R-42's R-44's & yes even 1 train of Green R-10's that ran on the JFK Express. Anybody that rode the nostalgia train back then should also have that proof as well.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by renee gil on Mon Sep 9 12:21:40 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by Mr. D - Type on Mon Sep 9 12:17:58 2013.

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yes, i stand corrected.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 9 12:41:46 2013, in response to The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 8 14:15:50 2013.

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Interdasting.

I remember that service disruption. A and C service was truncated at 34th St and the Q train was extended north from Rock Center to 207th St to cover for it. Lots of R38's on the Brighton line, a very rare sight.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by renee gil on Mon Sep 9 12:44:59 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 9 12:41:46 2013.

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Lots of R38's on the Brighton line, a very rare sight.



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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 9 12:51:27 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by renee gil on Mon Sep 9 12:44:59 2013.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Sep 9 18:58:45 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by CJ on Sun Sep 8 20:31:54 2013.

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Ah, yes. Never will forget that rocket ride in July of 1969 from Hoawrd Beach to Broad Channel. Once we cleared the bridge, all bets were off. That train took off as though it had a Saturn V booster strapped to it.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Sep 9 18:59:48 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by renee gil on Mon Sep 9 03:01:36 2013.

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That's about then the half-and-half scheme started to appear.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by renee gil on Mon Sep 9 23:52:59 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Sep 9 18:59:48 2013.

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a couple of years earlier (1966).

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Sep 10 10:13:57 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 16:31:41 2013.

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North Bound at North Conduit Ave.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by renee gil on Tue Sep 10 11:08:16 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by Avid Reader on Tue Sep 10 10:13:57 2013.

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yup.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Sep 10 14:18:53 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Mon Sep 9 08:13:38 2013.

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And I see that Church Ave still had incandescent lighting in 1986...wow...

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Sep 10 14:25:31 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by MainR3664 on Tue Sep 10 14:18:53 2013.

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Church and Fort Hamilton Pkwy didn't get florescents until late 1987.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by renee gil on Tue Sep 10 19:42:09 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Sep 10 14:25:31 2013.

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fort hamilton pkwy and church ave were incandescents up until october 1987.

actually many IND stations had incandescent lightning into the 80's:

bergen, carroll, smith-9th, 4th, ave, 7th ave, and 15th st stations got flourescent lightning in 1985.

75th ave, union turnpike, van wyck blvd, sutphin blvd, parsons blvd and 169th had incandescent until 1984-85.

some stations on the crosstown G line such as fulton, Clinton-washington, classon, bedford/nostrand, myrtle-willoughby, flushing ave, broadway, metropolitan ave-grand st, Nassau ave, and greenpoint ave had incandescents until 1983-84.



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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by renee gil on Tue Sep 10 19:45:45 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by MainR3664 on Tue Sep 10 14:18:53 2013.

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church ave on the f line were actually one of the last underground stations to receive flourescent lightning.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Sep 10 20:28:36 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by renee gil on Mon Sep 9 23:52:59 2013.

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That was when the racing stripe scheme first began to appear. By 1967, it was firmly entrenched.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by r17-6599 on Tue Sep 10 21:36:14 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 15:26:42 2013.

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Saw "Jacob's Ladder". Excellent R10 scene.
For other R10's in movies, see "The Pawnbroker" (1964). Good scene.
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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by William A. Padron on Thu Sep 12 14:05:16 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by r17-6599 on Tue Sep 10 21:36:14 2013.

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R-10's were also featured in the opeming titled sequence of the short-lived TV series "Serpico" starring David Birney, where a train was closing its doors on him at 57th Street-6th Avenue. Also, look in the early part of the original 1974 film "The Taking of Pelham One Two Three", there is a slight glimpse of an R-10's end (as seen coupled to an IRT R-22) at the station [Court Street] acting as Grand Central on the Lexington Avenue Line.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by BLE-NIMX on Thu Sep 12 17:52:31 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by renee gil on Sun Sep 8 16:17:30 2013.

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Better tell him he ain't the only R10 fan out there.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by randyo on Thu Sep 12 18:35:31 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by BLE-NIMX on Thu Sep 12 17:52:31 2013.

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I get no picture, only sound.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by randyo on Thu Sep 12 18:35:41 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by BLE-NIMX on Thu Sep 12 17:52:31 2013.

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I get no picture, only sound.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by BLE-NIMX on Thu Sep 12 18:37:17 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by randyo on Thu Sep 12 18:35:31 2013.

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Thats all you need. I didnt put up video

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by randyo on Thu Sep 12 18:39:27 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by BLE-NIMX on Thu Sep 12 18:37:17 2013.

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OK. thanks.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by CJ on Thu Sep 12 18:48:11 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by BLE-NIMX on Thu Sep 12 17:52:31 2013.

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Nice audio. Thanks for posting this.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by renee gil on Fri Sep 13 00:53:39 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by BLE-NIMX on Thu Sep 12 17:52:31 2013.

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when was this recorded?

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by BLE-NIMX on Fri Sep 13 08:00:24 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by renee gil on Fri Sep 13 00:53:39 2013.

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October 20, 1988 CC/Pitkin was using about 4 to 5 GE R10 sets left IIRC because they were retired completely the next month. They were being retired when I entered school car but the Green R10s were running after so I got some handle time on them. I worked them both as conductor and T/O. Right before the asbestos disaster and the Willy B closures they were using GEs for shop transfers, yard horses at 207 while the Green Machines found their way into A service and fortunately for me into the newer 145 service. Although 5 trips to WTC was somewhat grueling, I'd have a much better day in green than running "in the red". I liked them a lot for the short time I got to play with them. Especially the air doors.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by renee gil on Fri Sep 13 09:23:48 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by BLE-NIMX on Fri Sep 13 08:00:24 2013.

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cool. thanx for sharing.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by CJ on Fri Sep 13 13:35:44 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by BLE-NIMX on Fri Sep 13 08:00:24 2013.

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The GE R10s sounded good. I wonder how they ran in their last year of service? The train sounded like it was running pretty good for the most part.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by BLE-NIMX on Fri Sep 13 16:15:06 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by CJ on Fri Sep 13 13:35:44 2013.

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It depended on what you got. Mostly dead cars brought them down. They didn't have the flat spots the Green cars did. I understand they stuck the overhauled cars with the leaking NYAB rotary screw compressors because the R68s were going to get them but I think the older ones would have been just fine, just slow air buildup.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by mci guy on Fri Sep 13 18:01:09 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by BLE-NIMX on Fri Sep 13 16:15:06 2013.

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irode these r10 in their heyday the mid/late 70s. didnt impress me that much then.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by renee gil on Fri Sep 13 18:24:14 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by mci guy on Fri Sep 13 18:01:09 2013.

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didn't impress you? i take it you never rode the R-10's on the A...

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by BMRR on Fri Sep 13 18:56:38 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by renee gil on Fri Sep 13 18:24:14 2013.

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R10s on the A. Remember them well. When some says rapid transit..that is what I think of...

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by William A. Padron on Sat Sep 14 15:00:47 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by BLE-NIMX on Thu Sep 12 17:52:31 2013.

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Well, you're right, BLE-NIMX. There are other R-10 fans out there (not just us), and I think of at least three people who admire the cars as well.

The remaining R-10's (#3184 & #3189) may not be able to run anytime in the near future, but at least the memories of them are kept alive in spirit.

-William A. Padron
["a.c.f. builders lot #3159"]

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Sep 14 15:43:26 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by BMRR on Fri Sep 13 18:56:38 2013.

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I think of looking out the R-10's front storm door window, galloping up the NB express track to go through 110th Street/Cathedral Parkway!

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Sep 15 11:55:46 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sat Sep 14 15:00:47 2013.

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AMEN!

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by CJ on Sun Sep 15 12:29:29 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sat Sep 14 15:00:47 2013.

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Yep. This video from Youtube has been posted before, but from 48:58 to the end of the video you'll see the R10s in action.





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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 15 15:07:40 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by CJ on Sun Sep 15 12:29:29 2013.

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Yes, I have that one on VHS tape in my private collection at home. Great retrospective footage of the NYC subway system then, and yes with the R-10's just rolling along on film!

-William A. Padron
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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Sep 15 16:17:33 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by CJ on Sun Sep 15 12:29:29 2013.

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Always great to hear the voice of Roger Arcara.

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun Sep 15 16:36:21 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 15 15:07:40 2013.

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love the QBP footage....

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Sep 15 18:55:31 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Sep 15 15:07:40 2013.

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Film would be very nice if it only had sound. I am always asked for video when I post up audio clips but truth is I didn't care for pictures and video as much as I favored HEYPAULS method of preservation. The thousand words to me is worth more than the picture representing it. I wish Heypaul had access to a model Marantz PDM-201 stereo recorder or something similar back in the 70s, or at least I got mine a year sooner. Hearing 6398 stopping on iron brake shoes in that Guardian Angels movie with its compressor starting gave me motivation to get something saved to run, not just to look good in pictures

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Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989.

Posted by CJ on Sun Sep 15 20:03:16 2013, in response to Re: The R-10's Last Known Recorded Run - 9/8/1989., posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Sep 15 18:55:31 2013.

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Film with audio is rare from that era, but you never know when one will pop up these days. After all a video taken in 1986 with sound exists showing SMEE cars in action during that time period before they were either retired or rebuilt.

As for audio, I have bought several audio recordings that feature the BMT Standards, Lo-Vs, R9s, ME-1s, H&M's Black Fleet, and London Underground stock in the late 1970s. Hearing those audios gives me an idea of how things were back in those days.

Sadly I haven't been able to locate any site that sells audios of the R10-R30 cars yet. I hope to find audio of the MP54s, New Haven EMUs, or New York Central's pre-war EMUs while I'm looking around.

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