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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by AlM on Mon Apr 22 11:57:37 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 22 10:38:45 2013.

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The Left is out to destroy religion and family.

Hmm. I am close friends with only two couples who are truly committed leftists. Both want the US to be modeled on the old Swedish social welfare state model before Sweden got all moderate.

The older couple has been married 46 years and go to Catholic Church every Sunday. They have two children, who have been married 14 and 7 years respectively and seem to have very stable family lives, with 2 children and one child respectively.

The younger couple has been married 33 years. They sent their children to an Orthodox Jewish school. The children are not yet married but also seem to have very stable lives.

What I don't understand is how they are hiding their anti-family activites from me.


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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 22 12:22:17 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by AlM on Mon Apr 22 11:57:37 2013.

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THEY are not.

The Democrat party and the socialists certainly are, and it seems that they have done a good job of it too.

ROAR

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by AlM on Mon Apr 22 12:53:08 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 22 12:22:17 2013.

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Yet the friends I refer to are socialists. Far more so than Obama (whom they consider far too conservative), that's for sure.





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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Apr 22 13:55:34 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 22 11:51:35 2013.

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You are a Catholic as well, so you know what the Church wants and that the USA has no official position on any religious organization.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Apr 22 13:58:32 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 22 12:22:17 2013.

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Your use of the phrase "Democrat Party" shows that you take direction from El Drugbo, NOT the Pope.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 22 14:25:03 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Apr 22 13:55:34 2013.

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The USA has no position on religion, but the leftists sure as heck do.

ACME!


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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 22 14:31:27 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by RockParkMan on Mon Apr 22 13:58:32 2013.

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???

They are Democrats, are they not? What else would you call them?



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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Apr 22 14:32:25 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 22 14:25:03 2013.

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Proff required!!!

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 22 14:36:31 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Apr 22 14:32:25 2013.

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Just go ask Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, and Michael Savage, they will enlighten you.

ROAR

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Mon Apr 22 16:05:46 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Apr 22 11:38:58 2013.

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(nobody knows his real name)

I thought we'd worked that one out before...

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Mon Apr 22 16:08:03 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 21 18:55:51 2013.

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He didn't mean "belong" in that sense. One can belong to the ERA, but one has not sold oneself into slavery to railfans.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Mon Apr 22 16:10:18 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by J Trainloco on Sun Apr 21 13:42:57 2013.

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Sometimes, despite the efforts of parents, kids turn out bad.

And sometimes, despite the negligence of parents, kids turn out good. But such cases are relatively exceptional...

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 22 16:19:36 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 21 21:37:09 2013.

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If you followed your own advice, you would have to take a permanent vow of silence.

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Re: VIDEO : NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Mon Apr 22 16:20:51 2013, in response to VIDEO : NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Apr 20 09:03:01 2013.

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Well done to the cops for holding their nerve in what looks like quite a scary situation...

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 22 16:21:51 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 22 14:36:31 2013.

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LOL! They endarken if anything.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 22 16:23:07 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 21 21:23:32 2013.

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People should feel sorry for your children if you treat them as chattel.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 22 16:32:09 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by kew gardens teleport on Mon Apr 22 16:05:46 2013.

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You didn't, but it was a nice try. Now don't bother Mr. Hazen while thinking he's me.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by AlM on Mon Apr 22 16:36:40 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 22 16:32:09 2013.

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Does Mr. Hazen live at the north end of Hazen Street in Queens?


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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by AlM on Mon Apr 22 16:38:13 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 22 11:51:35 2013.

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The right wing position on abortion disagrees strongly with the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. A nun was excommunicated for doing something that Paul Ryan said was OK.



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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 22 17:07:05 2013, in response to NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 20 00:48:20 2013.

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what the fuck?

Ahh..I see how this works now.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 22 17:08:47 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by 5119 on Sun Apr 21 10:06:57 2013.

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again..fuck you racist bitches..



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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 22 20:45:07 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 22 16:23:07 2013.

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Your perception that the traditional relationship between parents and children is an example of chattel slavery is an indication of theory over experience, and an illustration that you are be no means stupid, but your ignorance blooms like the spring flowers.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 22 21:01:26 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 22 20:45:07 2013.

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I'm getting convinced of his stupidity too, myself.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 22 21:34:29 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by SLRT on Mon Apr 22 20:45:07 2013.

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Nope. I don't consider the traditional relationship as one of chattel slavery, but I'm concerned with people who choose to characterize it as such.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 22 21:35:02 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 22 21:01:26 2013.

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You're one to talk, genocide and evolution denier and apartheid supporter.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 22 21:36:16 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by kew gardens teleport on Mon Apr 22 16:08:03 2013.

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Good point.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 22 21:43:55 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 21 18:55:51 2013.

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Watching too much MSLSD.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 22 21:44:48 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 22 17:07:05 2013.

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Yeah, commit a crime. Get arrested. Nothing new here.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 22 22:33:27 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 22 21:43:55 2013.

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I don't watch cable news.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 23 02:44:18 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 22 16:23:07 2013.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 23 04:20:35 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 23 02:44:18 2013.

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People should just feel sorry for you.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by J Trainloco on Tue Apr 23 05:45:08 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 22 21:35:02 2013.

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While believing that the world is only a couple of milennia old is somewhat crazy, denying evolution certainly isn't. Many people with far more scientific knowledge than either you or me believe things were created.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 23 05:49:27 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by J Trainloco on Tue Apr 23 05:45:08 2013.

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Wrong. Creationism is not in any way a viable understanding of the origins of species.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by J Trainloco on Tue Apr 23 12:01:42 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 23 05:49:27 2013.

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Based purely upon science, I believe the opposite. At any rate, neither opinion makes a valid basis for insulting another.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 23 15:23:58 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by J Trainloco on Tue Apr 23 12:01:42 2013.

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That is not possible. Creationism is completely unscientific. It requires a belief in thibgs that are not scientifically verifiable. And it is a basis for insulting Olog-hai.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Apr 23 17:27:55 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 23 05:49:27 2013.

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But what is creationism? Is Genesis what really happened? Nothing previous to Abraham can be really be known. But then the Bible was never meant to be either a science book, nor a history book. It is a book of faith, guiding people to God. The stories do not need to be true in order to do this.

Be that as it may, There is nothing in evolution that really contradicts scripture. My reaction is "So *that's* how God did it."

Faith is quite a bit deeper than science, history, or even religion.

ROAR

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 23 17:42:15 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 21 18:55:51 2013.

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HUH?

Must not be a parent..and the obvious humanist talking points make you an idiot.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by J Trainloco on Tue Apr 23 18:00:05 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 23 15:23:58 2013.

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Not necessarily. Science can certainly prove that an equation needs an external force. And why do you assume that creationism exlcudes creation by natural forces? Humans use forces within the boundaries of the natural sciences to create things all the time.

At any rate, calling people stupid because they believe in creation is calling an awful lot of people stupid. I personally feel that calling out ideas as stupid has merit, but no individual is better than another, and elevating oneself above others is a trait that is equally as undesirable as 'stupid'.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 23 18:03:58 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by J Trainloco on Tue Apr 23 18:00:05 2013.

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Hmmm..he a humanist..
its his job..and life long quest, to draw people away from faith.



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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 23 19:55:23 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by J Trainloco on Tue Apr 23 18:00:05 2013.

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Not necessarily. Science can certainly prove that an equation needs an external force. And why do you assume that creationism exlcudes creation by natural forces? Humans use forces within the boundaries of the natural sciences to create things all the time.

Because there is no need for a creator. Adding one only makes a more complicated explanation that solves nothing.

At any rate, calling people stupid because they believe in creation is calling an awful lot of people stupid. I personally feel that calling out ideas as stupid has merit, but no individual is better than another, and elevating oneself above others is a trait that is equally as undesirable as 'stupid'.

Sorry, but of all the things one can believe, young earth creationism and intelligent design requires a great deal of ignorance, either willful or otherwise.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 23 19:59:59 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Apr 23 17:27:55 2013.

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But what is creationism? Is Genesis what really happened? Nothing previous to Abraham can be really be known. But then the Bible was never meant to be either a science book, nor a history book. It is a book of faith, guiding people to God. The stories do not need to be true in order to do this.

Excellent post. Too bad so many people don't get it.

Be that as it may, There is nothing in evolution that really contradicts scripture. My reaction is "So *that's* how God did it."

More excellence.

Faith is quite a bit deeper than science, history, or even religion.

I can't argue against faith because it is inherently irrational.

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Posted by J Trainloco on Tue Apr 23 21:19:49 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 23 19:55:23 2013.

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Because there is no need for a creator. Adding one only makes a more complicated explanation that solves nothing.

It's not about whether or not there is a 'need' for a creator, it's whether or not the evidence points to one.

Sorry,but of all the things one can believe,young earth creationism and intelligent design requires a great deal of ignorance,either willful or otherwise.

I don't subscribe to young earth creationism either.

Belief in evolution requires accepting that things which have no explanation are accepted as fact. Some people might argue that such a belief system is just as dubious as belief in YEC.

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Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 23 21:26:43 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by J Trainloco on Tue Apr 23 21:19:49 2013.

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Ignore the troll. He's been this way since Mr. Weinberg has been absent from here . . .

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Posted by J Trainloco on Tue Apr 23 21:41:12 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Apr 23 17:27:55 2013.

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If the 'stories' in parts of the Bible aren't true, then why would the rest of it be? Maybe this is semantics, but I just believe that people are misinterpreting what is in there. Who says seven days have to be 7 24 hour periods? Other periods of time in the book are used figuratively.

The fossil record is not unlike the record of things we make: they show advancement from model to model, but that doesn't mean that there was no designer behind each and every model, especially when huge strides are made at times with no immmediate predecessor.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 23 22:19:42 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by J Trainloco on Tue Apr 23 21:19:49 2013.

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It's not about whether or not there is a 'need' for a creator, it's whether or not the evidence points to one.

The evidence doesn't point to one either.

Belief in evolution requires accepting that things which have no explanation are accepted as fact.

What part of evolution is unexplained as of 2013?



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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 23 22:20:28 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 23 21:26:43 2013.

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Adults are talking here. Go mind your own business.

You're one call someone else a troll, Olog-hai.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 23 22:26:58 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by J Trainloco on Tue Apr 23 21:41:12 2013.

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That you don't see the intermediate steps in the fossil record only implies that there are no fossils of it. Fossilization is comparatively rare.

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Posted by J Trainloco on Wed Apr 24 18:24:27 2013, in response to Re: NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 23 22:19:42 2013.

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What part of evolution is unexplained as of 2013?

For starters, the actual mechanism of evolution. Yes, natural selection means that external conditions will affect which examples of a species will be better suited to survival in those conditions, and therefore which chromosomes will survive, but there is no natural process by which chromosomes have demonstrated an ability to change into something they don't already possess, save mutations. Extensive study on mutations have pretty well demonstrated that they are not the answer. On a more detailed level, there are massive jumps in evolution that have no fossil record to support them, nor a logical explanation. The most extreme example of this, at least in my humble opinion, would be the jump from asexual reproduction to sexual reproduction, which would require a very rapid shift from one process of reproduction to a wholly different one, nevermind the fact that it would have also required this to be done in reaction to other organisms of the same species undergoing the same rapid transition.

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Re: VIDEO : NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Apr 25 05:12:32 2013, in response to Re: VIDEO : NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by SLRT on Sat Apr 20 18:16:12 2013.

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ALL of them...

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Re: VIDEO : NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble

Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Apr 25 14:30:45 2013, in response to Re: VIDEO : NYPD arrests Muslim teen for accosting Jewish man; angry mob causes trouble, posted by SLRT on Sat Apr 20 18:16:12 2013.

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'cept there was no brutality...only professionalism in very tryuing circumstances.

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