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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 21 03:34:58 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by bklynsubwaybob on Sat Apr 20 22:17:00 2013. Flack for what?Posting the video? I just posted another one for SMAZ on OTCHAT. Let's see if he responds. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 21 03:45:48 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by bklynsubwaybob on Sat Apr 20 22:35:45 2013. . Here's a scenario, if it were a carload of white assholes acting like animalsSuch videos after St. Patrick's Day parade have been posted. Occupy Wall Street too. Including one guy shitting on a cop car and others violently confronting cops. And being quite honest with as much white trash as there is out there I not doubting the a majority of the white assholes NY's white trash culture is gone. You have the upscale and solid middle class whites and minorities in NY. That's it. The white trash moved out long ago. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Apr 21 04:41:34 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 21 03:34:58 2013. Gawd you are clueless |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Apr 21 06:12:08 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 21 03:32:06 2013. As you. Pointless also |
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Posted by J Trainloco on Sun Apr 21 09:09:17 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 21 03:19:16 2013. How do people with jobs behave? |
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Posted by J Trainloco on Sun Apr 21 09:13:50 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 21 03:30:37 2013. What you and others fail to realize is that there is a sentiment in the black community that the police are out to get minorities. The fact that they make up a disproportionate amount of the stops doesn't help to dispel that notion. I don't buy into it, but it's no different than your notion that the resistance of arrest is a trained behavior. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Apr 21 09:58:46 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 21 03:19:16 2013. Do you have a job, ASSWIPE?!?!?! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 21 10:11:36 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by J Trainloco on Sun Apr 21 09:13:50 2013. I do understand that there is a sentiment.Minorities make up a disproportionate number of stops because they commit a disproportionate number of violent crimes. Don't you read the newspaper? They probably account for 90% of shootings and violent crimes in NYC, LI, NENJ, and the area. The cop who stops a gangsta and gets a gun or knife off the street is probably saving a black life in the process. I've seen several cases of people resisting arrest, trying to incite the crowd that gathers around to watch. It's a smart move. You're going to jail anyway and you know people are recording, so maybe you'll get lucky and get a hotheaded cop to do something stupid and have charges dropped. Or better yet, a lawsuit. |
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Posted by bklynsubwaybob on Sun Apr 21 11:36:55 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 21 03:34:58 2013. Flack for posting an opinion, or in this case a video, that's not unanimously accepted by the posters on the board. |
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Posted by bklynsubwaybob on Sun Apr 21 11:44:17 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 21 00:56:21 2013. No one said anything about "all" the people onm the line. I said there's a good chance they're getting the money for those devices from the taxpayers, not their parents. Stop interpreting what is said to bolster your own thoughts. |
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Posted by bklynsubwaybob on Sun Apr 21 11:55:09 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 21 01:58:07 2013. From what I've seen over the years, more times than not, minorities are always perceiving that persons of color are always being manhandled by the police no matter the crime. Don't forget resisting arrest by the suspect caused the alleged "manhandling". I hold people, in general, in a high state of disdain for their incitement of the circus-like behavior that took place on the video. |
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Posted by FtGreeneG on Sun Apr 21 12:55:57 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 21 03:17:46 2013. I try to avoid it OTchat but curiosity gets the best of me. Interesting discussion to say the least...LOL |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 21 13:09:49 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by bklynsubwaybob on Sun Apr 21 11:55:09 2013. Considering the frosty relationship between cops and blacks, not without some justification, it's not surprising that the people see the cops' activity in a negative light (not that I agree with it, I think that the perp was looking for trouble). |
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Posted by J Trainloco on Sun Apr 21 13:41:22 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 21 10:11:36 2013. Minorities make up a disproportionate number of stops because they commit a disproportionate number of violent crimes. Don't you read the newspaper? They probably account for 90% of shootings and violent crimes in NYC,LI,NENJ,and the area. The cop who stops a gangsta and gets a gun or knife off the street is probably saving a black life in the process.90% isn't the right number, but it kind of comes close to the truth in NYC.Here's the data. I don't disagree that the tactic should be to stop people who fit the descriptions, but it certainly doesn't engender goodwill when the police are frequently stopping innocent people in their home neigborhoods. My skin is far too light for me to experience this, but many of my friends and family have gone through being stopped, searched and then released with no explanation. It's embarassing, and it unfortunately fosters distrust. I've seen several cases of people resisting arrest,trying to incite the crowd that gathers around to watch. It's a smart move. You're going to jail anyway and you know people are recording,so maybe you'll get lucky and get a hotheaded cop to do something stupid and have charges dropped. Or better yet,a lawsuit. Yes, these people are criminals. They fight back against the police. I assure you that it's not something that the community is training everyone to do. When a minority doesn't resist arrest, you don't see those cases because no one records it. There are far more cases of the latter than the former. There are also white people resisting arrest. It is what it is. What doesn't get picked up in the statistics above is the economic class of the perpetrators of crimes. Yes, minorities make up a disproportionate amount of suspects in crimes, but they also make up a disproportionate amount of people living at or below the poverty line in this city. I would like to see what the crime stats are, further broken down by household income of the suspects. Of course, the whole point being made earlier in this thread is that someone's financial status can't be determined just by looking at someone, which is what one poster clearly said. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 21 16:10:29 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by bklynsubwaybob on Sun Apr 21 11:55:09 2013. Considering the frosty relationship between cops and blacks, not without some justification, it's not surprising that the people see the cops' activity in a negative light (not that I agree with it in this case, I think that the perp was looking for trouble). |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 21 16:13:18 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by bklynsubwaybob on Sun Apr 21 11:44:17 2013. You said that "they were all on welfare or public assistance", not that there was a good chance. Even if you meant just that train, that's too general an assumption. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 21 16:14:15 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 21 16:10:29 2013. Sorry, didn't check if I already posted this. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 21 17:58:09 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by J Trainloco on Sun Apr 21 13:41:22 2013. My skin is far too light for me to experienceI refuse to get into an argument on the main board. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 21 18:17:01 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Apr 20 20:49:55 2013. They are good once in a while, but most of the time they sit in the wood box that holds 1 telephone on top and the phone books below. Verizon gets a bunch of $$$$ with FiOS so they can afford three phone books every 12 months. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 21 18:21:21 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Apr 20 21:57:18 2013. iPhones do a lot of things other than make phone calls. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 21 18:28:23 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 21 13:09:49 2013. Does that also mean black cops pick on people of their color? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 21 18:53:56 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 21 18:17:01 2013. If they were to send me a phone book, I'd want money for going through the trouble of throwing them out. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 21 19:16:47 2013, in response to The 3 Train, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 19 06:45:02 2013. Sounds like the crowd didn't agree with the arrest? What was he being arrested for? |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 21 19:17:06 2013, in response to The 3 Train, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 19 06:45:02 2013. Sounds like the crowd didn't agree with the arrest. What was he being arrested for? |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Apr 21 21:41:15 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 21 19:17:06 2013. He allegedly robbed a jewish man and called him anti semitic slurs. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 21 21:46:57 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Apr 21 21:41:15 2013. Ok. I didn't know the "robbed" part. He should be arrested if that's true, although I wouldn't agree with him being arrested for the distasteful comments in one of the other threads. Do you know why the crowd was so upset? That doesn't happen like that in LA. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 22 02:05:06 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by bklynsubwaybob on Fri Apr 19 18:56:13 2013. They're all on welfare or some sort of public assistance, yet they all have up to date cell phones. I feel the tugging at my wallet again.You personally inspected each and every person shown in the video for EBT cards? Really? |
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Posted by Danny at 103rd street on Mon Apr 22 07:12:00 2013, in response to The 3 Train, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 19 06:45:02 2013. Looks like a riot was about to happen. another one of them situations were the kids are going to say "they arrested me cause I'm black". |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 22 07:57:33 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Mon Apr 22 07:12:00 2013. Eh? According to the statistics, they would probably be correct in arresting them. LION does not know why this is so. The intensity of epidural pigmentation seems such an irrelevant thing, yet that is how it is.Maybe it is not skin color but WEALTH that determines a person's ability to succeed. Some claim that IQ tests are weighted toward the "white person". Well, hello -- That is what is being measured: the ability to succeed in our world as it is today, ergo a "white" world, whatever that is. LION thinks that it all distils back to FAMILY. And some people want to devalue the family even further. Him sees some counter productivity here. Lost generation.... Methinks that there are at least four, probably at least six generations that are screwed because of the breakdown of family. Sigh.... |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Apr 22 09:46:45 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 21 18:53:56 2013. When the new phone books arrive, the old ones go right in my recycling boxes for paper and bottles. The City recycles 90% of paper and bottles. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 22 09:51:11 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by bklynsubwaybob on Sun Apr 21 11:36:55 2013. Jtrainloco is of the opinion that these videos hurt the image of black people. He's also of the belief that a video of whites acting up(St. Patrick's Day LIRR and MNRR vids) don't have the same effect on whites as a whole.He's saying people are more likely to judge blacks as a whole based on these videos. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 22 10:35:47 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Apr 22 09:46:45 2013. And the even recycled the ACME market!ROAR on you, ROAR |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 22 11:37:30 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by J Trainloco on Sat Apr 20 12:13:59 2013. far from "borderline"..full on...as you can clearly see from most responses..including LUCH purpose for posting it. being that this is the web..people feel a certain amount of "freedoms" to really let their ignorance,prejudice and stereotypes stigmas show in full bloom.. They will reach into a bag of tricks..post a bunch of nonsense about family..social..blah blah blah..on and on about the CAUSE of "social maladjustment in the People of Color Community",or some other silliness. But..I've YET to see here an HONEST assessment of the so call social unrest of the white man..his failures..his wrecking of the environment for monetary gain..his destruction of the fabric of social justice..his hell bent fascination with blowing up the damn planet..his blatant savagery towards other races..his need to "dominate every facet of life" from microbe to elephant to whale..and most of all..the apparent attacks on their own from time memorial..particularly Now with the REPUBLICAN FACTION PUNISHING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE for not completely voting their way.. |
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Posted by J Trainloco on Mon Apr 22 11:56:09 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 22 09:51:11 2013. Actually, I was only making reference to the fact that bklynsubwaybob did that. I wasn't making the point in a general sense. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Apr 22 12:17:30 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 20 02:32:19 2013. I am sick and tired of people treating cell phones as a luxury.I'm sick and tired of people assessing whether someone is on welfare or not by looking at them. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 22 12:24:44 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Apr 22 12:17:30 2013. LION has no cell phone. Is phone is connected by a wire to the wall, and it has this twisty-turny thingie that you can use to dial a number with.LION on Welfare? Does Social Security count, if so then the LION is indeed on welfare. Most LIONS of my acquaintance are satisfied when the zookeeper brings around a nice plate of raw meat. ROAR |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 22 13:42:05 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Apr 22 09:46:45 2013. Those things are so heavy that it's a pain to throw them out.If I were to get a new phone book, the NEW phone book would go straight into the recycling. |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Mon Apr 22 14:39:05 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 20 18:59:24 2013. But what will little kids sit on now to reach the kitchen table? :)--Mark |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Apr 22 14:57:22 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Mon Apr 22 14:39:05 2013. But what will little kids sit on now to reach the kitchen table? :)A stack of broken iPads :) |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Mon Apr 22 16:32:40 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by bklynsubwaybob on Sat Apr 20 22:42:58 2013. In fact, this video was a good example of bigotry. Crowd of white people see a white youth being arrested, shrug shoulders, go about their business. Crowd of black people see a black youth being arrested, jump to conclusions, nearly start riot. Until the vast majority of the people in that crowd learn that it is just some youth being arrested and has nothing to do with skin color, bigotry is not going to die. The ball is in their court. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 22 16:44:09 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by bklynsubwaybob on Fri Apr 19 18:56:13 2013. you act as if you know this personally...like YOU were on social services from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE..How the fuck would you know this for a fact? could it be due to your say so,bitch? your momma on welfare too?..betcha she got the la-TEST CELL MODEL..collecting that EBT CHECK every other week.. you KNOW for a fact that your sisters and brother were ob food stamps,bitch. dont front for the web..tell the truth! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 22 16:46:48 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Apr 19 22:04:18 2013. fuck you..the devils[YOU] did more to the entire fucking world..than just a few neighborhoods...YOU BITCHES ought to be hung by your nuts out of a very tall building for the crimes you CONSTANTLY commit and get away with. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 22 16:47:14 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Apr 19 22:04:58 2013. where you momma grew up.! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 22 16:48:05 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by bklynsubwaybob on Fri Apr 19 23:47:13 2013. same place you get it..from public assistance. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 22 16:51:42 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by bklynsubwaybob on Sun Apr 21 11:44:17 2013. fuck you..hats what you've been doing the entire time..how the fuck can you make a claim on someones social economical status by watching that? face it bitch..you got beef with people of color..bring it to someone who loves it! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 22 16:55:24 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by bklynsubwaybob on Sun Apr 21 11:44:17 2013. fuck you..hats what you've been doing the entire time..how the fuck can you make a claim on someones social economical status by watching that? face it bitch..you got beef with people of color..bring it to someone who loves it! you fuckers are ALWAYS running off with your mouths with this bullshit glee culb drama..trying to down folks..yet constantly forget who THE FUCKERS at fault for the economize shit storm we are in..YOU BITCHES. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 22 17:02:26 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 20 02:48:09 2013. OR post stupid shit like You did..How does that make You feel,exactly? do you feel like Your usual dick less impotent self..? Or did you feel similar to your kindred spirits here..like penetrated bitches who whore for post responds? I suspect you identify with both. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Apr 22 17:27:01 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 22 16:44:09 2013. I can tell you something interesting. Someone went to court over a civil matter and was asked by the judge if he worked. The man replied that he was unemnployed and actively looking. The sharp eyed judge replied "Then how could you afford an iPhone and Jordans?". The man didn't have much to say after that.Now do you want to call me a racist and bigot????? I wasn't on the bench and I am not qualified to be an honorable judge. |
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Posted by bklynsubwaybob on Mon Apr 22 18:05:11 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 22 17:02:26 2013. This guy is chapter and verse of exactly what I was talking about. He really knows how to express himself in a civil fashion. I'm glad he's representing the people of color. |
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Posted by J Trainloco on Mon Apr 22 19:39:27 2013, in response to Re: The 3 Train, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Apr 22 17:27:01 2013. That post has absolutely nothing to do with this thread. In that case, a judge ASKED someone if they were unemployed. He didn't assume it just by looking at him, which is what some in this thread are doing. |
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