|
|
| Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? (1151999) | |
 |
|
| Home > SubChat | |
[ Post a New Response | Return to the Index ]
[1 2] |
||
|
Page 2 of 2 |
||
|
| (1152347) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 21 16:31:15 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by randyo on Fri Apr 20 17:49:56 2012. I was in the city on Friday, November 24, 1967 and experienced the CPW express dash for the first time - on a prewar D. Didn't ride on the BMT at all that day, although in retrospect I wish I had. |
|
|
| (1152348) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 21 16:33:46 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Edwards! on Fri Apr 20 18:23:51 2012. IIRC the QB was mainly R-32s althogh I remember racing an R-27/30 QB up Broadway on an R-32 Norton once on a Saturday in October of '67. |
|
|
| (1152349) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by randyo on Sat Apr 21 16:34:13 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Joe V on Fri Apr 20 19:19:54 2012. I never saw any 9 car R-16s on the Eastern although they would have fit if needed. After the PM rush of the Wednesday before Thanksgiving of 1967, the R-32s from the Brighton Exp that laid up at Brighton Bch were sent to Stillwell to go into Brighton Lcl service and arriving R-27/30 Brighton lcls that were replaced by them were sent to Brighton Bch to lay up and operate in Brighton Exp service. At the end of the PM rush on Friday, the R-27/30s used on the Brighton Exp, laid up at Brighton Bch for Mon morning QJ service since initially, the Ds ran 24/7 to Stl and the QJs terminated at Brighton Bch which unfortunately required a double Xover move between lcls and exps N/O Brighton Bch. That error in planning was corrected on the next pick when the Ds operating a Brighton Exps terminated at Brighton Bch and were extended to Stl only when operating as lcls when the QJ didn't operate. The QJs then became the Stl service from approximately 600 AM to 800PM. |
|
|
(Sponsored) |
iPhone 6 (4.7 Inch) Premium PU Leather Wallet Case - Red w/ Floral Interior - by Notch-It |
|
| (1152350) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Apr 21 16:37:17 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sat Apr 21 13:23:42 2012. Ah, fond memories of those cars looking like that on the G and N (and then R) in the 1980's. |
|
|
| (1152351) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 21 16:38:05 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 20 13:56:56 2012. I remember them very well on the Ricky Ricardo back then. |
|
|
| (1152352) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by randyo on Sat Apr 21 16:41:07 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 21 16:25:10 2012. The signs that lacked the "6th Ave" subscript were brand new. The R-9s had "B/6th Ave Exp" signs as originally delivered so they were good to go as soon as Chrystie opened ad was the case with the R-9s on the D. Some R-9s received "B/Via 6th Ave" side signs as did some of the R-32s. Most of the R-32, however had cheesy white on black decals paste over the "BB" readings. That's another example of the incompetent planing in the TA. "C/8 Ave Exp" signs were included on the side signs of the R-27s through 38s, yet the "B/6 Ave Exp" which was intended to be operated, was not included. |
|
|
| (1152353) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32s with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 21 16:41:40 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32s with RR displayed in front?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 21 16:05:40 2012. I liked the R-32s at first sight. My very first subway ride was on a Norton of shiny new Brightliners on July 21, 1965. |
|
|
| (1152354) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by randyo on Sat Apr 21 16:43:03 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 21 16:33:46 2012. When I was a C/R in 1966, all Brighton Lcls both QT and QB were R-27/30s and the R-32s were Brighton Exps. |
|
|
| (1152355) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Edwards! on Sat Apr 21 16:48:19 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Apr 21 05:21:52 2012. Huh?the R line completely covers the old EE service,plus extended hours and weekend service since 1987..while the N[the line that replaced the EE] only operated similar service to what the former service provided,with extremely limited service to Whitehall terminal. |
|
|
| (1152357) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Edwards! on Sat Apr 21 16:58:26 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 21 16:33:46 2012. I dont think they were..from what I remember..most were 27/30s..while the express was 32/32a. |
|
|
| (1152359) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Apr 21 17:05:09 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sat Apr 21 13:23:42 2012. How they looked inside:
|
|
|
| (1152361) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Edwards! on Sat Apr 21 17:08:42 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Apr 21 17:05:09 2012. the powder blue looked much better... |
|
|
| (1152362) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Apr 21 17:10:10 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by randyo on Sat Apr 21 16:13:53 2012. Looks like they ran 'em in whatever way they wanted:   
|
|
|
| (1152364) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Apr 21 17:12:24 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Edwards! on Sat Apr 21 17:08:42 2012. Indeed. I also preferred the salmon colored seats on the R27-30, but they were painted grey during the overhaul(s).
|
|
|
| (1152369) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Apr 21 18:08:29 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Fri Apr 20 21:15:36 2012. Would today's last Queens-bound (R) of the night (that leaves Whitehall around midnight) be descended down from the (EE) of those bygone days? Ditto the "brown-diamond" (R) that ran CTL-Whitehall? |
|
|
| (1152404) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sat Apr 21 20:41:31 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Apr 21 17:05:09 2012. Didn't some of them have orange doors and tan walls? I liked that combo better. |
|
|
| (1152423) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Apr 21 21:36:19 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by randyo on Sat Apr 21 16:41:07 2012. During the R46 truck fiasco, as a c/r I operated several 8 car R27/30's in weekend F service, which were Brighton Beach/Sheepshead Bay M layups.Virtually none had F side signs, a few had FF. |
|
|
| (1152424) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by randyo on Sat Apr 21 21:37:42 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Apr 21 21:36:19 2012. I can't see why they would have had FF since that was not a part of the readings on the 27s through 38s as delivered. |
|
|
| (1152459) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Sun Apr 22 03:51:45 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by randyo on Sat Apr 21 16:41:07 2012. I remember the B over BB pasties on the bulkheads of the R32s, too, and agree completely, that this is a prime example of the incompetent planning of the TA. |
|
|
| (1152460) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Sun Apr 22 04:01:08 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Apr 21 12:08:28 2012. I loved the R32s when they were new and even until GOH gave them the cyclops look. They are still gleaming and bright, though, and I like their top-to-bottom ribbing, which seems to enhance the brightness.I wonder what proportion of their current problems, as you outlined, are due to metal fatigue or body rot or irreplaceable components as compared with components that could be renewed or replaced, if the TA really wanted to make them run more reliably. |
|
|
| (1152461) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 22 05:00:01 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Apr 21 12:08:28 2012. Gotta take it in perspective ... they were part of the first redbird order but they came in stainless. Same old shit, got some GOH, but they're that old and busted. I'm sure you were with the railroad to remember when they were peppy and braked nice but they're old and busted just like their cousins. Sorta like the arnines when I came on board.You KNOW you won't miss them when they're gone, but at least you got to play with them while they were still somewhat in their prime prior to becoming basket cases. You'll always be able to take that with you. :) That all said, know EXACTLY what you mean though. |
|
|
| (1152462) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32s with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 22 05:11:49 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32s with RR displayed in front?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 21 16:41:40 2012. Yeah, but they got shafted in the air conditioning redesign plus all the other neutering. Folks forget that they're early rustbird vintage and they're showing it. :(And the lack of blue on the doors really ruins the appearance along with the cyclops thingy. Those cars used to have balls too. |
|
|
| (1152465) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Apr 22 06:28:13 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Sun Apr 22 04:01:08 2012. All I know is that I look at it from an employee aspect.............we are the ones who have to move the stuff.Maybe if NYCT pours tons of money into them they'd be better, I dunno. All I know is that they way they perform........they leave something to be desired. But if y'all just want to stare at them like a pretty woman with no brains......... |
|
|
| (1152466) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Sun Apr 22 07:13:36 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Apr 22 06:28:13 2012. "But if y'all just want to stare at them like a pretty woman with no brains........."Heh, nice analogy....sort of like: If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, Don't make a pretty woman your wife. So from my personal point of view, Get another girl to marry you. |
|
|
| (1152467) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Railman718 on Sun Apr 22 07:41:14 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Apr 21 12:08:28 2012. Bill you took the words right out of my mouth been on the Charlie on the weekends for nearly two years. That so called SMS is more like SMH really. |
|
|
| (1152484) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32s with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 22 11:56:12 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32s with RR displayed in front?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 22 05:11:49 2012. Agreed on all counts. I miss the blue doors and the as-delivered bulkhead arrangement - signs, marker lights, exp/local signs.I liked what Big Ed had to say about them when they were new: they jumped like jackrabbits. |
|
|
| (1152489) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 22 12:06:08 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by randyo on Sat Apr 21 21:37:42 2012. I wonder if they weren't the same cars that sported DD signs when they ran on the D. I remember seeing a few of those in 1980. |
|
|
| (1152490) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 22 12:07:44 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Sun Apr 22 03:51:45 2012. I also remember those pasted-over B signs on the front and side signs. |
|
|
| (1152491) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 22 12:09:45 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by randyo on Sat Apr 21 16:43:03 2012. I vaguely remember seeing a Q in July of 1967, but never rode on one, pre-Chrystie. In fact, I never rode on any pre-Chrystie Brighton train. My mother rode on a QB once. |
|
|
| (1152493) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Apr 22 12:17:10 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 21 16:17:57 2012. R38 also had a variant of these - albeit with a slightly different font (more of a blockletter style). Never saw one of these on the 27/30s (not saying they didn't exist), but 27/30 had some "addon" letters, like "RJ", "MM" etc.wayne |
|
|
| (1152496) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 22 12:41:59 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Apr 21 08:09:44 2012. The M and RR basically shared all the crap at CI, the slants remained on the A, B and AA-K for the most part well into 1985. I remember slants on the RR (R now) a lot in 1986, but this was at a time when the M was using nothing but crap from ENY, including the R16's.During rush hours, there was lots of interchanging with the M and R. A Nassau St RR would arrive at 95th St, then turn around and run north as a Broadway RR. Sometimes without enough time to change the signs. |
|
|
| (1152497) | |
Re: PHOTOS : Pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front |
|
|
Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 22 12:44:49 2012, in response to PHOTOS : Pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri Apr 20 21:24:43 2012. Man, I loved those R44-style rollsigns the R32, 38 and R16's got in 1969. Only the R16's retained them by the mid 1980's, so I always associate them with that fleet. As a kid, they educated me about all the double lettered and long gone routes, like the KK, QJ, TT ... |
|
|
| (1152498) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 22 12:48:03 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Sun Apr 22 04:01:08 2012. I always hated the R32 because they looked like garden sheds on wheels. And for a stainless steel car, they were probably the ugliest and dirtiest of the bunch in the mid 1980's. Since I loved the R46, and these cars shared Queens Blvd with them, usually I'd see one and be immediately disappointed, particularly if I was waiting for an N or R train and crossing my fingers for an R46. |
|
|
| (1152506) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 22 13:44:34 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Edwards! on Sat Apr 21 17:08:42 2012. Definitely. |
|
|
| (1152511) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 22 13:56:09 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Apr 20 22:46:55 2012. As a kid, I referred to them as "those shiny BMT cars with letters up front." Which was more than I could say about the BMT standards - old, ugly and no signs up front. |
|
|
| (1152528) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by zac on Sun Apr 22 14:44:35 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 22 12:07:44 2012. It always bothered me that these brand new at the time cars didn't have the signs for the routes they would ultimately operate.Then with the R40 through R46, the cars had the very route specific signs and took away any flexibility to re-assign cars. Of course, it didn't stop them from doing so and running half the trains without proper signs. |
|
|
| (1152560) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32s with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 22 17:36:55 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32s with RR displayed in front?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 22 11:56:12 2012. Even ten years out from delivery, they still were. But now we're pushing 50. |
|
|
| (1152645) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Apr 23 08:39:51 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Apr 20 17:12:55 2012. You are right, Jeff. |
|
|
| (1152671) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by randyo on Mon Apr 23 13:53:15 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Apr 21 18:08:29 2012. The "brown diamond" R signs were never supposed to be used for the Ctl- Whl service but only for the 95 St - Chambers via Nassau service even though R-46s weren't allowed up Nassau. Since the R to either Whl or Canal was not an actual separate route as was the Nassau service, but merely a short turn, there was no diamond sign to be used. |
|
|
| (1152673) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by randyo on Mon Apr 23 13:56:06 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32's with RR displayed in front?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Apr 20 22:46:55 2012. From what I was told, when the R-32s were first delivered, the BMT crews referred to them as "blue doors," |
|
|
| (1152674) | |
Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32s with RR displayed in front? |
|
|
Posted by randyo on Mon Apr 23 13:59:08 2012, in response to Re: Does anyone have any pictures of pre-GOH R32s with RR displayed in front?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 22 11:56:12 2012. I wonder if he was referring to the GE ones. When I was a M/M, I noticed that if I wrapped the GE controllers around into multiple, they would jump whereas if I placed it into switching first and then move it to multiple, it would accelerate smoothly. The WH cars didn't seem to have that problem. |
|
|
[1 2] |
||
|
Page 2 of 2 |
||
