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Re: LIRR East Side Access / Roosevelt Island F Station

Posted by straphanger9 on Thu Jan 17 17:52:12 2008, in response to Re: LIRR East Side Access / Roosevelt Island F Station, posted by straphanger9 on Thu Jan 17 17:35:40 2008.

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I'd be curious to see if they could send the Q to 179 during rush hours via express - the whole way, even past Continental (ie stopping at 63rd/Lex, RI, 21st/QBridge, Roosevelt, Continental, Union Tpk, Parsons Blvd, and 179). Two trains can turn at 179, and this would just be a temporary helpful measure until Phase I of SAS is complete. A final decision would then made regarding whether or not another RI stop is feasible.

Another option for down the (rail)road, if this service becomes popular, could be running the W to Astoria (it would run weekends now, obviously), the N over the route described above, the R stays to Continental, and the Q goes up SAS. This would entirely eliminate the need for the N to switch over to the local track to access the 60th St. tunnel (because without the Q terminating at 57, the N AND Q can run through to their destinations).

The only problems with all of the above though include 3 routes using the express tracks in Queens, and problems with weekend/late night cutbacks. The Q needs to serve Brighton. The N needs to serve Sea Beach, but would be redundant in Queens during offpeak times. It couldn't terminate earlier at these times because with the Q a through train at 57, there's nowhere to relay it. The W needs to serve Astoria, and the R is necessary in Bay Ridge and as the Queens Boulevard local especially with the V not running weekends. But running all four services isn't very cost effective. Additionally, the express tracks east of Continental can't be used to store put ins and extra trains from overcrowded Jamaica Yd if the N is through them.

So there's clearly problems with it, but what the hell, I'll throw it out there anyway...

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