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Posted by KLCS on Tue May 23 00:38:18 2006, in response to Re: LIRR East Side Access, posted by J trainloco on Mon May 22 23:35:32 2006. You talk about expanding Penn Station tracks and platforms . If you expand it, you run into the problem of the TUNNELS running at capacity (East River tunnels is maxed out with LIRR, Amtrak, Amtrak deadhead, NJT deadhead runs), North River(Hudson tubes) with NJT and Amtrak.So, the most cost efficient way to get more trains into Manhattan was to use the already built 63rd Street tunnels and extend the tunnels to a third level of Grand Central. There was a mention of dwell times in Penn. Although many trains, during the Peak) go to the yard for midday storage, many trains during the peak enter Penn, reverse and leave (both LIRR and NJT). I guess the term is many trains do not (in subway terms) relay past Penn. If NJT more NJT trains during the Peak "relayed" past Penn, it would eat into LIRR slots under the East River. Trains can't just enter and leave. They must have seats turned around (NJT), and FRA brake tests (takes some time) and other routines that must be done by the crew before departure. Plus, there are hordes of people getting on and off. The LIRR is the largest commuter line in the states and I'm not saying ESA will be cheap, it will cost a lot of money (quite a few billion), and I'm not saying that it should have been the highest priority (thought SAS should have), but you've got mostly 10-12 car 85 foot trains carrying hundreds of thouands of people daily on the LIRR into Penn. So since the island is growing, unless telecommuting becomes big, I think expansion is necessary through ESA, and other means. |
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