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Re: Egypt Revolts; Muslim Brotherhood names candidate for President of Egypt |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 1 00:24:35 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Muslim Brotherhood names candidate for President of Egypt, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 1 00:18:37 2012. Do you EVER read what you post?1. The group recently said it was considering fielding a candidate in the May election only because it was concerned that former regime figures backed by the ruling military council would win if it did not. 2. Since the ouster of Hosni Mubarak more than a year ago, the Brotherhood had said it would not nominate a candidate. When a progressive member of the organization, Abdel Moneim Aboul Fotouh, announced his intent to run last year, he was ousted from the group for breaking the rules. And as to your highlighted portion: “We affirm that the Muslim Brotherhood does not seek power in order to reach a position or to achieve wealth or status, but seeks to fulfill the purpose it was created and worked for in the past year, which is satisfying God,” Have *YOU* accepted Jesus yet? If not, then you ain't shit ... |
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Re: Egypt Revolts; Muslim Brotherhood names candidate for President of Egypt |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 1 00:42:19 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Muslim Brotherhood names candidate for President of Egypt, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 1 00:18:37 2012. Hey! Interesting writeup out of Reuters on this ... and you use Reuters all the time, so it can't be no leftie media ..."The move will worry liberals and others who fret about the rising influence of Islamists after they swept parliament and now dominate an assembly writing the new constitution." So dewd ... you've apparently become a "lib" ... just wanted to warn you so that you can take cover. :) |
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Re: Egypt Revolts; Muslim Brotherhood conspired with military to field presidential candidate |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 2 13:00:32 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts; Muslim Brotherhood names candidate for President of Egypt, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 31 18:38:21 2012. Al-Arabiya
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Egypt Revolts; Muslim Brotherhood's presidential candidate says Sharia is main goal |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 7 01:51:46 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011. Reuters
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Re: Egypt Revolts; Muslim Brotherhood's presidential candidate says Sharia is main goal |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 7 15:31:50 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts; Muslim Brotherhood's presidential candidate says Sharia is main goal, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 7 01:51:46 2012. Yeah, hello? I really don't take any pleasure in relaying this stuff. Has to be done though. |
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Egypt Revolts; White House defends meetings with their Muslim Brotherhood |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 8 16:19:29 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011. Same thing as meeting with Hamas. The equivocation is unparalleled, even for DC.Voice of Amerikay
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Re: Egypt Revolts; White House helps the MB's war on Egypt's women |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 8 16:25:20 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts; White House defends meetings with their Muslim Brotherhood, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 8 16:19:29 2012. Yahoo News
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Re: Egypt Revolts; White House defends meetings with their Muslim Brotherhood |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Sun Apr 8 16:25:41 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts; White House defends meetings with their Muslim Brotherhood, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 8 16:19:29 2012. You know NOTHING abour realpolitik |
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Re: Egypt Revolts; White House helps the MB's war on Egypt's women |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Sun Apr 8 16:26:18 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; White House helps the MB's war on Egypt's women, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 8 16:25:20 2012. Another anti-EU Blogger. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 8 16:44:47 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts; White House defends meetings with their Muslim Brotherhood, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 8 16:19:29 2012. why is JayZeeBMT no longer active in the thread he started? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 8 16:47:06 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; White House defends meetings with their Muslim Brotherhood, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 8 16:44:47 2012. Got me. I guess people like that still need to figure out the difference between democracy and elections. |
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Egypt Revolts, Cancels Natural Gas Agreement With Israel |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 22 20:05:11 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011. Ha'aretz
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Re: Egypt Revolts, Cancels Natural Gas Agreement With Israel |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 22 20:15:28 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts, Cancels Natural Gas Agreement With Israel, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 22 20:05:11 2012. Egypt's national gas company notifies EMG about cancelation; Israeli, Egyptian officials say move is due to business dispute and has nothing to do with Egypt-Israel diplomatic ties.From the upper part of your post which is reiterated within the story. It's a business dispute. your pal, Fred |
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Re: Egypt Revolts, Cancels Natural Gas Agreement With Israel |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 22 20:21:55 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts, Cancels Natural Gas Agreement With Israel, posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 22 20:15:28 2012. April 22, 2012 Egypt Terminates Gas Deal With Israel By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS CAIRO (AP) — The head of the Egyptian Natural Gas Holding Company said Sunday it has terminated its contract to ship gas to Israel because of violations of contractual obligations, a decision Israel said overshadows the peace agreement between the two countries. The 2005 natural gas deal has become a symbol of tensions between Israel and Egypt since the uprising. For many Egyptians, it typifies the close relations the regime of deposed President Hosni Mubarak forged with Israel and how his associates benefited greatly from such business deals. Critics charge that Israel got the gas at below-market prices and that Mubarak cronies skimmed millions of dollars off the proceeds, costing Egypt millions of dollars in lost revenue. Egyptian militants have blown up the gas pipeline to Israel 14 times since the uprising more than a year ago. Israel insists it is paying a fair price for the gas. Mohamed Shoeb, the head of the Egyptian Natural Gas Holding Company, said the decision to cancel the deal was not political. "This has nothing to do with anything outside of the commercial relations," Shoeb told The Associated Press. He said Israel has not paid for its gas in four months. Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor denied that. Shoeb told Egyptian TV that the decision to cancel the contract was made Thursday because "each side has rights and we are representing our rights." On Sunday, Israel Finance Minister Yuval Steinitz said the unilateral Egyptian announcement was of "great concern" politically and economically. "This is a dangerous precedent that overshadows the peace agreements and the peaceful atmosphere between Israel and Egypt," he said in a statement. Israel and Egypt signed a peace treaty in 1979, but relations have never been warm. The Israeli side said the decision was "unlawful and in bad faith," accusing the Egyptian side of failing to supply the gas quantities it is owed. Israel insists it is paying a fair price for the gas. Israel's electricity company has been warning of possible power shortages this summer, partly because of the unreliability of the natural gas supply from Egypt. For the long term, Israel is developing its own natural gas fields off its Mediterranean coast and is expected to be self-sufficient in natural gas in a few years. Hussein Salem, a close friend of Mubarak was among the shareholders of East Mediterranean Gas Co., which is a joint Egyptian-Israeli company that carries the gas to Israel. Once a close friend of Mubarak, Salem fled Egypt for Spain and was sentenced in absentia to seven years in jail over the natural gas issue. On the Israeli side, EMG sought international arbitration in October because of the Egyptian side's failure to supply the quantity of gas stipulated in the contract — because of the frequent bombings. Under the 2005 deal, the Cairo-based East Mediterranean Gas Co. sells 1.7 billion cubic meters of natural gas to the Israeli company at a price critics say is set at $1.50 per million British thermal units — a measure of energy. The gas deal has been the subject of litigation in Egypt. An appellate court last year overturned a lower court ruling that would have halted gas exports to Israel. Opposition groups that filed the suit before the uprising claimed that Israel got the gas too cheaply under the 15-year fixed price deal between a private Egyptian company, partly owned by the government, and the state-run Israel Electric Corporation. Ibrahim Yousri, a former Egyptian diplomat who had brought the issue to court, welcomed the decision announced Sunday. "It has become a scandal bigger than the (ruling) military council can withstand," Yousri said. He said there are gas shortages in Egypt, and growing economic woes, further enflaming popular unrest. He called the business deal a "treason" to national interests, adding, "This is a great political step." ___ Additional reporting by Ian Deitch in Jerusalem. . |
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Egypt Revolts, legalizes *necrophilia* and pedophilia |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 27 05:47:51 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011. Hindustan Times
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Re: Egypt Revolts, Cancels Natural Gas Agreement With Israel—Treaty-related (not about money) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 27 06:07:38 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts, Cancels Natural Gas Agreement With Israel, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 22 20:05:11 2012. Reuters via Ha'aretz
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Egypt Revolts; Saudi Arabia recalls ambassador and closes Egyptian embassies/consulates |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 28 15:37:10 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011. Cable News Network via WRTV, ABC Channel 6, Indianapolis
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Egypt Revolts; current leading presidential candidate calls Camp David Accords "dead and buried" |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 30 12:46:20 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011. Congrats to former President Carter on having his biggest achievement "buried" by theHa'aretz
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Re: Egypt Revolts; current leading presidential candidate calls Camp David Accords ''dead and buried'' |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 30 20:30:14 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts; current leading presidential candidate calls Camp David Accords "dead and buried", posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 30 12:46:20 2012. Well done, libs. |
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Egypt Revolts; takes US money and runs (probably laughs too) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 2 20:46:34 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011. Washington Post
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Re: Egypt Revolts; takes US money and runs (probably laughs too) |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Thu May 3 07:38:16 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts; takes US money and runs (probably laughs too), posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 2 20:46:34 2012. Not to mention they didn't want the money at first either until Nobama insisted.I hope he gives another speech post election. |
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Egypt Revolts; radical preacher declares "global caliphate" with Jerusalem as capital (not Mecca) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 10 01:46:46 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011. Jerusalem Post
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Re: Egypt Revolts; radical preacher declares ''global caliphate'' with Jerusalem as capital (not Mecca) |
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Posted by SLRT on Thu May 10 16:06:55 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts; radical preacher declares "global caliphate" with Jerusalem as capital (not Mecca), posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 10 01:46:46 2012. Remember the "United Arab Republic"?It's interesting considering the concept of "Umma" (that Arabs constitute a single people, or nation) how disunited they are. |
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Egypt Revolts: 61% of Egyptians want to scrap Camp David Accords (Pew poll) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 14 04:00:21 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011. Amr Moussa is an Islamist, FTR.Jerusalem Post
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Egypt Revolts: Muslim Brotherhood claims lead in presidential race |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 25 02:21:31 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011. AP via Houston Chronicle
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Egypt Revolts: Muslim Brotherhood candidate makes it to presidential runoff race |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 25 17:06:27 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts: Muslim Brotherhood claims lead in presidential race, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 25 02:21:31 2012. And Nasser was a Nazi, according to the article.AP via My Way News
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Re: Egypt Revolts: Muslim Brotherhood candidate makes it to presidential runoff race |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 25 17:21:48 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts: Muslim Brotherhood candidate makes it to presidential runoff race, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 25 17:06:27 2012. Miss me yet? |
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Re: Egypt Revolts: Muslim Brotherhood candidate makes it to presidential runoff race |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 25 17:23:23 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts: Muslim Brotherhood candidate makes it to presidential runoff race, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 25 17:21:48 2012. Wrong country. |
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Re: Egypt Revolts: Muslim Brotherhood candidate makes it to presidential runoff race |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Fri May 25 17:30:44 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts: Muslim Brotherhood candidate makes it to presidential runoff race, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 25 17:21:48 2012. Damn, he's one UGLY shit. |
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Re: Egypt Revolts: Muslim Brotherhood candidate makes it to presidential runoff race |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri May 25 18:05:12 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts: Muslim Brotherhood candidate makes it to presidential runoff race, posted by Rockparkman on Fri May 25 17:30:44 2012. Salaam Allah certainly is! |
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Re: Egypt Revolts: Muslim Brotherhood candidate makes it to presidential runoff race |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 25 20:39:18 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts: Muslim Brotherhood candidate makes it to presidential runoff race, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri May 25 18:05:12 2012. ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz |
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Egypt Revolts: MB candidate tells Christians to either convert, pay jizyah or leave |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 31 02:41:43 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011. Gatestone Institute
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Re: Egypt Revolts: MB candidate tells Christians to either convert, pay jizyah or leave |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Thu May 31 07:54:13 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts: MB candidate tells Christians to either convert, pay jizyah or leave, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 31 02:41:43 2012. Wonder why I don't see any pale leftist protests over those human rights. You'd think the demonkkkrats are ok with all of this cleansing and genocide with their actions.Did Code Pink get a position in their cabinet yet? They've done a lot of protesting for these guys when Hosni was in office. |
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Re: Egypt Revolts: MB candidate tells Christians to either convert, pay jizyah or leave |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 31 13:58:47 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts: MB candidate tells Christians to either convert, pay jizyah or leave, posted by orange blossom special on Thu May 31 07:54:13 2012. Code Pink(o) has been conspicuously silent on Egypt since about February of last year. It's like they got embarrassed very quickly or something . . . |
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Re: Egypt Revolts: MB candidate tells Christians to either convert, pay jizyah or leave |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu May 31 14:23:34 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts: MB candidate tells Christians to either convert, pay jizyah or leave, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 31 02:41:43 2012. I clicked on the link to the El Bashayer website. I found a scrolling ad for Chevrolet cars. Money tops all. |
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Re: Egypt Revolts: MB candidate tells Christians to either convert, pay jizyah or leave |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu May 31 14:24:37 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts: MB candidate tells Christians to either convert, pay jizyah or leave, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 31 02:41:43 2012. I got his "jizya" right here.... |
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Egypt Revolts: MB head calls Israel's creation "worst catastrophe" to hit "the world" |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 1 00:47:58 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011. Yeah, it's that Nakba thing again . . . the Arab/Muslim world's Dolchstoßlüge . . .Jerusalem Post
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Re: Egypt Revolts: MB head calls Israel's creation ''worst catastrophe'' to hit ''the world'' |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jun 1 08:56:36 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts: MB head calls Israel's creation "worst catastrophe" to hit "the world", posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 1 00:47:58 2012. Meanwhile, Romney calls for military aid to Israel's enemies in Syria and it bothers you not one whit. |
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Re: Egypt Revolts: MB head calls Israel's creation ''worst catastrophe'' to hit ''the world'' |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Jun 1 17:36:34 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts: MB head calls Israel's creation ''worst catastrophe'' to hit ''the world'', posted by AlM on Fri Jun 1 08:56:36 2012. I dunno, you don't think it's a good thing that the Obama/McCain team is giving aid to the group who wants to cleanse(meaning genocide) multiple groups out of Syria? |
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Egypt Revolts—assaults against women get worse |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 6 22:20:21 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011. AP via NPR
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Egypt Revolts: rumors of disappearing ink in pens used to cast ballots |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 16 18:26:34 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011. AP via NPR
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Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jun 18 02:40:56 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011. OK ClearAspects, JayZee, et al. Is this the great result you were heralding a year and a half ago when this all began? Worked out well for liberal democracy, didn't it? Hate to say it, but I'm not sure this revolution worked out for the better for the people of Egypt based on how things stand at the moment, never mind how it worked out for American interests.Egypt’s military issues decree giving vast powers to armed forces, but few to president |
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Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 18 04:27:12 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jun 18 02:40:56 2012. As I said before, the transition to Democracy doesn't happen over night, and for anyone including yourself to expect Egypt to turn into a mirror of the US "overnight" is foolish. Even the US had its teething period with a Civil War. If you want things done quickly, get in a car and go to McDonalds you'll at least get your food quickly but thats it, in the real world transitions don't happen overnight. |
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Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jun 18 04:50:39 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 18 04:27:12 2012. Seems to me you are marching to a different tune now that things aren't going so well:http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=727391 http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=727396 http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=726622 I'm not going to say the Egyptian people were well off under Mubarak, but based on the newspaper articles I've read since the revolution, and especially since the presidential election process started, I don't get the sense that many of them think they are any better off post revolution, and in fact, many of them seem to feel as if they are worse off if they aren't a part of the Muslim Brotherhood. Considering you went on a whole rant about how I supposedly don't give a shit about how the Egyptian people fare as a result of their revolution but only care about myself living in Israel (which, I must remind you, is much closer to Egypt than where you live), if you somehow see recent events (military claims more power for itself, parliament dissolved due to ineligible candidates from the Muslim Brotherhood that supposedly had no interest in running the country winning election, election of the Islamist candidate who almost certainly doesn't uphold the ideals you would want to see in a democratic country in the presidential election) as a positive progression towards democracy or reasons to be optimistic about the future of Egypt, either you have a far more positive outlook on the world than I do or you are an incredibly naive hypocrite who is far more concerned with the promotion of "democracy" even though it seems to be failing before your very eyes. However, based on what you've posted about current events and your general disdain to consider facts when they are presented to you in the past, I'm inclined to go with the latter. |
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Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 18 04:59:55 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jun 18 04:50:39 2012. I think that it's time to remind everybody once again that what's going on over there was a direct result of the machinations of PNAC and the GOP's conservative movements, from Reagan to Bush the son. Seems to be working out as well as their economic policies. :( |
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Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jun 18 05:31:26 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 18 04:59:55 2012. Just so you know, they don't hold Obama in the highest regard, either, these days. But yes, American policy over many years and administrations is certainly one of many factors leading to the Arab spring. I'm not sure anyone is denying that fact (unless you think only conservative presidential policies have contributed, in which case you are out of your mind). |
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Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 18 05:47:09 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jun 18 05:31:26 2012. PNAC has been quite influential in many policies, including this one. But still ... look at who PNAC is ... there's the answer. American democracy doesn't work very well in other places. Look at the mess the EU's made of trying it without going through all the necessary steps first. Democracy is a wonderful thing, but it isn't instant coffee. |
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Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jun 18 05:58:20 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 18 05:47:09 2012. Um, how exactly is the EU an emulation of American democracy? And why are you dodging my point by harping on one think tank's mission? |
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Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 18 06:18:54 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jun 18 05:58:20 2012. Because I'm busy working or I wouldn't be up right now? Sun's coming up.Both issues are far too complex right now to get into the finer points of each since I'm busy at the moment trying to figure out why videos encoded in 1080p at 24 frames are clobbering the CPU when 30 frame 1080p only eats about 80% CPU when encoded on OSX when run through npviewer.bin in Firefox. I'd find the political discussion more relaxing myself, but gotta get this done so I can get some sleep. I'll get back to you on it sometime. But suffice it to say for now that the idiots at PNAC engineered both messes starting back in Reagan's time. It's the same cast of morons. |
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Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jun 18 07:15:37 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jun 18 02:40:56 2012. Using the definition of democracy...that appears to be it. |
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