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Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 19 22:43:17 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jun 19 19:28:23 2012. Our forebearers were smart not to support the French Republic in the 1790s. This is no different. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jun 20 01:53:40 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts; Mubarak probably dead after stroke, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 19 19:46:16 2012. I guess he's in Ariel Sharon Land now.How strange. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jun 20 02:58:52 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jun 19 19:11:05 2012. Using the Gaza strip is bad because the palestinians are divided between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank so you have two voices speaking for what is supposed to be one state and neither technically respect each other.By that logic, any comparisons to the US government aren't valid either since the House of Representatives is controlled by one party and the Senate and entire Executive Branch is controlled by the other, and there are multiple voices that not everyone has voted for. Are you starting to pick and choose which democracies are valid in your eyes? That seems to be the case here. Then you go on a notion about War, do you honestly think that Egypt with the Muslim Brotherhood would want to go to War with Israel? Under the right circumstances? Yes. Their nation is broke, wars cost money, military equipment costs money and they know if they go to war there would be economic and political sanctions and they risk isolating their nation and causing a huge refugee crisis. It wouldn't take much for Israel to win that war, מלחמת ששת הימים, ring a bell? A war would be devastating and for a rebuilding Egypt even with the Muslim Brotherhood at the helm it would be in their best interests to foster relations with the west for IMF and other international funds to rebuild their nation especially if they don't they risk a coup from the military or another uprising from the people. Muslim Brotherhood needs stability and economic recovery, a war would be counter to both, even the most hardline pressed islamist in Egypt knows that. No shit, I have (and others have) been saying that for the past 18 months. When fear is set aside and common sense prevails it makes sense. If fear is set aside and common sense prevails, then yes, you are correct. But if the Muslim Brotherhood's domestic policy doesn't work out fast enough and they sense trouble, Israel is a good for uniting the people around a common cause, even if it doesn't solve the pressing economic issues. Want proof? That is why Iran for all its talk, about how much it hates Israel has yet to fire a single missile in its direction (directly not through proxy groups ala Hezbollah), and thats been the situation since the 70s! Iran hasn't fired a nuclear warhead in Israel's direction because it doesn't have any yet. Rational action in the eyes of religious fanatics isn't usually rational in the eyes of others, and plenty of people are willing to put themselves in harm's way to do what they consider to be "right." You seem to be ignoring that possibility because as the case often seems to be, you don't acknowledge that other people don't share your viewpoints and/or you don't recognize the realities on the ground or that others may not see things the way you do. Israel by definition and by the actions of the government to its people are true of a real democracy, however its foreign policy is counter to it. Especially with the use of things like White Phosphorus, bulldozing houses, and illegal settlements (under international law). Let's assume for a moment that Israel actually does all of the "war crimes" and other "illegal activities" you claim it does. So because the Palestinians don't have a "real democracy", whatever that means to you, they don't have to play by the rules either, and can use human shields, shoot rockets at civilian areas in Israel proper (about 50 in the past 24 hours, by the way), and divert humanitarian goods for its war effort? Many UN and other observer group's initial reports about Israeli actions during Operation Cast Lead have been redacted after the fact, with far less fanfare than their initial release. If you think settlement expansion is the only barrier to a peace accord between the Israelis and the Palestinians, you are very mistaken. And where is your outrage over the Turkish occupation of Northern Cyprus and all the other supposedly illegal occupations per international law around the world? And you cite how Israel won the Six Day War, how come Israel can't build and develop the territory it won during a war the way other countries do? Perhaps the Arabs shouldn't have attacked Israel time and time again, because there is always a chance you'll lose (and they did). However even if the Brotherhood came to power Israel wouldn't face the doomsday scenario you think might happen You can predict the future? When is the Second Avenue Subway opening? the article you posted said it best "I think they will be very careful not to dismantle it. These uprisings have nothing to do with Israel. Israel isn’t the reason, and Israel isn’t the solution." How closely did you read the interview? Again, if common sense prevails, then yes, the Muslim Brotherhood doesn't try to dismantle the peace treaty. But that is if and only if common sense prevails. I've already explained a likely scenario of what might happen if common sense, as seen by you and me, does not prevail. Part of the issue here is that while you and I both agree that Egypt needs to address its domestic problems, we don't agree (and you fail to acknowledge the possibility even) on what might happen if the new government fails to address those domestic issues to the satisfaction of the Egyptian people. Perhaps by being more vocal and supportive of freedom and democracy in Egypt perhaps you might be able to keep the treaty and secure the borders with Egypt even with the Muslim Brotherhood in power. George W. Bush told Israel to go along with his idea for democratic elections in the Palestinian Territories, Israel was hesitant because of a potentially very bad outcome for Israel (Hamas winning), and look what happened. You make things far simpler than they actually are. You managed to get a treaty with a dictator... so how hard can it be? You might want to read up on your history, the peace treaty was signed by Anwar al-Sadat, not Hosni Mubarak. Sadat paid for it with his life. He signed the peace treaty because he finally realized that it was better to accept Israel's existence and move on with other priorities than to keep fighting an endless war, something that other Arab governments ought to do as well if you ask me. The Muslim Brotherhood, among other organizations, discouraged Egyptians from taking advantage of the peace treaty, so there are virtually no tourists or businesspeople coming to Israel from Egypt, only the other way around (and now, there probably isn't much of a flow in that direction either). And as I've said, things in the real world are much harder and more complex than you make them out to be. You might want to read up on your history, facts, and my prior posts. Perhaps then you'll understand a bit more what is at stake and why some people on this board are disagreeing with your outlook. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jun 20 03:02:00 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 19 18:57:08 2012. How quickly did Israel set up a democratic government?Excellent. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 03:56:34 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jun 19 19:12:11 2012. He only seems to know. He doesn't really. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jun 20 06:52:27 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jun 20 02:58:52 2012. Iran hasn't fired a nuclear warhead in Israel's direction because it doesn't have any yet. Rational action in the eyes of religious fanatics isn't usually rational in the eyes of others, and plenty of people are willing to put themselves in harm's way to do what they consider to be "right." You seem to be ignoring that possibility because as the case often seems to be, you don't acknowledge that other people don't share your viewpoints and/or you don't recognize the realities on the ground or that others may not see things the way you do.Really? Its been the 70s and Iran hasn't attacked Israel... and they know that Israel has nukes, Iran wouldn't use Nukes in a first strike because it would be suicidal, they would likely use it as a deterrent to prevent Israel from attacking it in the first place since Israel is keen on using a quick first strike capability, a nuclear deterrent would basically say "you attack us, tel avid ceases to exist" and it would be counter to what they want since likely any nuclear attack would have radiation fallout that would affect people in Palestinian Territories, Syria, Jordan, Egypt as well. Once again I stress, common sense trumps fear. You're scared of an attack that hasn't happened in over 30 years. I can say the doomsday scenario won't happen because it didn't happen with Iran... if it doesn't happen with a nation with a clear military and weapon capability then what would make a poor nation with barely a pulse want to pursue a war? To distract people? That's a horrible theory. Unrealistic... as for that quote that I posted that was from your article... so obviously I read it. Obviously you didn't... Your fear is so overreaching that the decisions lack proper common sense. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 11:03:23 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jun 20 06:52:27 2012. You are ascribing rational motives to a government run by irrational religious figures.The attack has never happened in 30 years because Iran has never had the capability in that period. Your claim is like asking why the US didn't nuke Japan in 1941 right after the Pearl Harbor attack. Wars are never started for rational reasons. Look at World Wars, Episode II: the Fascist Menace. Do you consider it entirely rational on the part of Germany? |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 20 11:31:54 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 11:03:23 2012. Wars are never started for rational reasons. Look at World Wars, Episode II: the Fascist Menace. Do you consider it entirely rational on the part of Germany?I disagree, the reasons can be quite rational. Japan, for instance, did it as a power grab to create their own sphere of influence/empire, so that they wouldn't be under the thumb of the Western powers. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 11:36:54 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 20 11:31:54 2012. This is why I did not include Japan in my analysis, but I disagree that it was rational anyway. It costs A LOT to create an empire through war against an equal or superior foe. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 20 12:16:07 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 11:36:54 2012. It does cost a lot, but Japan wasn't starting from scratch when WWII started. By 1941, they already had an army, navy, and air power, and they all proved themselves against China and Russia. With Britain, France, and the Netherlands tied up with Germany, it came down to stopping, or at least delaying, a United States response. By smashing the US Pacific fleet and its base at Pearl Harbor, Japan could grab the territory they needed to create their empire, and with the raw materials they now had access to, create a war machine that would force the US to give up trying to retake the territory. It was a calculated risk, and Japan miscalculated, among other things, but I wouldn't call it irrational. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 12:23:26 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 20 12:16:07 2012. The Pearl Harbor attack was in advancement of the war they wanted against the United States. I'm not saying it wasn't a risk worth taking, I'm saying that the war against the US in general was a bad idea. Empires are expensive and not worthwhile. HOWEVER at the time the opposite was believed so it wasn't totally irrational. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jun 20 12:26:56 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jun 20 06:52:27 2012. Figures you don't address the fact that there are rockets being shot from Gaza into Israel right now, or that the accusations of Israel violating the rules of war were redacted after the fact.I already explained how Iran didn't have the capability to nuke Israel and still doesn't, and how what might seem rational to you might not seem rational to others. You could seem to care less about anything that doesn't fit your own worldview. I don't think it is paranoid to think Iran and/or Egypt might try (again) to wipe Israel off the map in the future, especially based on past history and recent rhetoric. I'm not alone, either. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 20 12:41:16 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 20 12:23:26 2012. We can say it's a bad idea because we can look at it with 20/20 hindsight. However, IF the Japanese had destroyed the oil storage tanks at Pearl, AND if Midway wasn't such a rout, the results may not have been so cut-and-dried. Furthermore, at the time, to be a world power you needed the raw materials from which to build things, and to ensure a relatively steady supply, you took the lands which had them. Japan looked at Britain, France, Germany, etc., and decided to follow their model. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 20 12:44:43 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jun 20 12:26:56 2012. I don't think it is paranoid to think Iran and/or Egypt might try (again) to wipe Israel off the map in the future, especially based on past history and recent rhetoric.Any country that can wipe Israel off the map would get major cred in the Middle East, if not the world. Knowing that, if I was an Israeli, I would be concerned too. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jun 20 15:18:20 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jun 20 12:26:56 2012. I told you. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jun 20 15:18:33 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jun 20 12:26:56 2012. I told you. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 20 16:33:52 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by SLRT on Mon Jun 18 17:07:53 2012. So the "people's will" is always good? |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Jun 20 17:12:31 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 20 16:33:52 2012. It's considered so when it's in opposition to gay marriage.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jun 20 20:01:57 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 20 11:31:54 2012. They had the military capability and they caught the west off guard. Comparing the capability of Nazi germany to Iran is comparing a cherry to a pineapple. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 20 20:06:20 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 20 11:31:54 2012. You really buy the propaganda and lies, don't you? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 20 20:08:26 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by Rockparkman on Tue Jun 19 18:31:46 2012. Olog calls me a Nazi all the timeOnly because you call everyone who disagrees with you a Nazi. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 20 20:08:54 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jun 19 18:21:01 2012. Being critical of the Israeli government =/= antisemite =/= NaziDouble lies, Nazi. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 20 20:10:31 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 20 20:08:26 2012. Only because you call everyone who disagrees with you a Nazi.Can a Black man be a Nazi? I have disagreed with Him a few times... |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 20 20:13:33 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 20 20:10:31 2012. Dunno if national socialism is a standalone philosophy. Nasser seems to have thought so. Certainly the creators of Ba'athism seem to have thought so as well, borrowing so much from Nazism (pan-Arabism copied from pan-Germanism, one-party states, hatred of Jews, ad nauseam). |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 20 20:15:54 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jun 20 20:01:57 2012. In terms of military capability relative to their periods, I think I agree, Iran is no Nazi Germany. However, they are still considerably more hostile, IMO, than, say, USSR vs. US. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 20 20:17:25 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 20 20:13:33 2012. Sooooo is that a Yes??? |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 20 20:17:56 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 20 20:06:20 2012. Why? For saying that wars can be waged for rational reasons? |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jun 20 20:23:41 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 20 20:15:54 2012. You sure? We fought a lot of Proxy wars with the USSR... Vietnam, Korea all proxy wars with the USSR. Iran is all bark and no bite, that have to bark in order to be heard they got nothing else, and with how dense the Middle East is nation wise, a nuclear strike by Iran on Israel would have devastating consequences for Egypt and the Suez Canal in terms of radiation, for Joran, Syria, Gaza Strip and West Bank. I always saw nukes as a deterrent more than a first strike especially since its widely accepted that Israel has nuclear warheads and possibly even submarines with Nukes on board as well. So you get a nuclear deadlock, you can even compare the government of Iran right now with Japans government during WWII, |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 20 20:31:22 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jun 20 20:23:41 2012. I base it, more or less, on the fact that the US/USSR proxy wars were almost always set among the proxies (with varying levels of direct involvement of the 2 powers). Iran, OTH, is using at least one proxy to directly threaten and attack Israel, something that the USSR and the US never really did (Cuba is the closest, though no shots were actually fired). |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jun 20 20:34:17 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 20 20:31:22 2012. I think the Korean was was a hell of Proxy War... |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 20 20:43:15 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 20 20:17:25 2012. You gotta ask any blacks that openly profess national socialism, because AFAICS, white national socialists are against blacks too.Anyway, as Hermann Göring said:
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 20 20:45:57 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 20 20:43:15 2012. I dont concern myself with other Blk Folk or what they do unless it hits me in the pocket, im just wondering if im in that Boat you say Clear Aspect is.. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 20 20:48:13 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 20 20:45:57 2012. Everybody commie ... everybody nazi ... Olog is the shining path. :) |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 20 20:54:57 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 20 20:31:22 2012. So was Vietnam. However, neither got to the point of actually attacking the homelands - in retrospect, it was more like a chess game of global influence. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 20 20:55:15 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jun 20 20:34:17 2012. So was Vietnam. However, neither got to the point of actually attacking the homelands - in retrospect, it was more like a chess game of global influence. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 20 21:25:58 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by Fred G on Wed Jun 20 17:12:31 2012. Nice thread shift. But not real subtle. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 21 01:10:42 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 20 20:45:57 2012. Are you talking up the lies against Israel that he's been spewing? I didn't notice that you were. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jun 21 03:47:49 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 20 20:48:13 2012. Wasn't Shining Path a communist insurgency? ;-) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 21 03:59:03 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by 3-9 on Thu Jun 21 03:47:49 2012. Your irony detector is well calibrated, grasshopper! :) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jun 21 06:57:26 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 21 01:10:42 2012. Are you talking up the lies against Israel that he's been spewing? I didn't notice that you were.Looks like you are having problems following the thread here let me help you it started with THIS reply... Now can you finally answer the question? Yes or No will do thanks. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 21 07:01:03 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jun 21 06:57:26 2012. Good luck with him. Hitting the mic with him is like trying to get in front of a Sea Beach at DeKalb. :) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jun 21 07:14:22 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 21 07:01:03 2012. Theres always a method to my madness Kev... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 21 07:18:27 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jun 21 07:14:22 2012. Oh I know ... and you're definitely playing with madness there, yo. :)I'm out for the night. Happy outcomes on my end, yay! |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jun 21 07:45:19 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 21 07:18:27 2012. Troll you later..... |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 21 13:41:45 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts! Looks like we have more Military Rule, not Democracy, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jun 21 06:57:26 2012. You're not making sense. That post is not cause to accuse you of Nazism, or supporting same, as C.A. has done. |
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Re: Egypt Revolts; current leading presidential candidate calls Camp David Accords ''dead and buried'' |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 22 18:22:07 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; current leading presidential candidate calls Camp David Accords ''dead and buried'', posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 30 20:30:14 2012. Yup; knew they couldn't face this. |
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Egypt Revolts—Muslim Brotherhood candidate WINS presidency |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 24 15:59:46 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011. AP via Boston GlobeHappy now, leftists and real Nazis? |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jun 24 17:36:46 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts—Muslim Brotherhood candidate WINS presidency, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 24 15:59:46 2012. Not happy.No one has suggested a course of action by the US that would have prevented this, however. |
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Egypt Revolts: plumber beats pregnant wife to death because she didn't vote for Morsi |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 25 15:15:43 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts—Muslim Brotherhood candidate WINS presidency, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 24 15:59:46 2012. INN
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Re: Egypt Revolts: plumber beats pregnant wife to death because she didn't vote for Morsi |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 25 15:17:37 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts: plumber beats pregnant wife to death because she didn't vote for Morsi, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 25 15:15:43 2012. Horrible tragedy, but I know what you're trying to do, and you're trying to make this as a representation of whats going on with all people who didn't vote for Mursi. |
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