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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 12:16:35 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 12:15:44 2011. Perhaps a racist one... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 12:17:50 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 12:16:35 2011. Opps forgot the question mark...? There... |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 12:19:15 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 5 12:06:16 2011. Oh yeah...I took a look. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 12:20:35 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 12:15:53 2011. IAWTP |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 12:22:56 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 11:53:38 2011. The same thing you're talking about: IQ tests. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 12:24:08 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 11:56:24 2011. LOL! Praise from Caesar. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 12:25:05 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 12:10:58 2011. Isnt he the dude..always harpin about how we should read THE WHOLE THREAD before forming an opinion or commenting?Seem like someone forgot to follow his own rules.. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 12:28:19 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 12:22:56 2011. No, you're talking about some other false bullshit about what you think IQ tests are. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 12:28:37 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 5 03:02:10 2011. Haha that's if he graduates high school. I would suspect pervasive cultural effects (not wanting to step out of line, not wanting to leave home) might be in play to explain the poor performance in these places.But still even after graduating it's still not necessarily true that this white student has better prospects. (Tell that the guys I interned with at U. Wisconsin Madison who were from eastern Kentucky.) Blacks do slightly better than their scores suggest (still digging for my source for that—bear with me). As well a poor white person even with a good score faces poorer prospects getting into college than most minorities. While no doubt some discrimination against blacks is still going on, it's not as simple such that a white person of comparable intellect has a golden boulevard set before him while the black man has the rocky dirt road. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 12:28:41 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 12:14:30 2011. What a hypocrite. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 12:30:14 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 12:28:19 2011. No. Whether or not IQ tests succeed at their goal, their point is to measure intelligence, not knowledge. An ignorant person can still be highly intelligent. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 12:31:29 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 12:30:14 2011. WTF does that have to do with my original point? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 12:32:36 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 12:25:05 2011. Yup and he got caught.. Again...You better believe hes reading every post now and will repsond in kind to whom,(we all know that his MO for just ignoring some posts but will throw his in your face every chance he gets) if he so chooses. Ill be at work when that might happen so i wont be able to reply until tonight.. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 12:34:09 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 12:13:13 2011. Easy is a snide, self-hating piece of shit, he deserves it. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 12:34:50 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 12:28:37 2011. So you are quoting somebody else studies in this? Or is it just that one post? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 12:35:20 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 12:28:41 2011. Of course i am try harder Morris please... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 12:38:34 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 12:34:09 2011. Self Hatred the worst kind of hate if you ask me. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 12:47:12 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 12:31:29 2011. You said an IQ test measures intelligence. You then said that intelligence is what one knows compared to others. That is wrong. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 12:47:50 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 12:14:02 2011. An IQ test measures how much you know compared to others in your age group, I've said that a billion times and it's fallen on deaf ears despite a simple look in the dictionary proving I'm right. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 12:49:02 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 12:34:50 2011. He has quoted studies previously. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 12:50:11 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 4 23:37:52 2011. Plus, black people have had generations to "adjust" to European-style civilization, if your post is true then why are their genes slow to "adapt"?Revisiting this question, you're right, 400 years is enough time for evolution to leave a visible impact on a population, especially with such a drastic environmental change (look at Ashkenazi Jews, who evolved a great increase in intelligence in under two millennia). However the problem for blacks in the New World was the slave trade itself. The practices of slavery did not select for intelligence, if anything perhaps the opposite: As well, the slave trade was ongoing; fresh slaves from Africa were constantly being brought in. This provided a fresh influx of genes that would have diluted any changes, say for intelligence or even docility among historical slaves here. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 12:50:16 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 12:47:50 2011. Which dictionary is this? An IQ test does no such thing (at least a good one). |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 12:50:32 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 12:47:50 2011. You sure???What is an IQ? An Intelligence Quotient indicates a person's mental abilities relative to others of approximately the same age. Everyone has hundreds of specific mental abilities--some can be measured accurately and are reliable predictors of academic and financial success. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 12:53:04 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 12:34:50 2011. I think this is one of those threads that will only get worse as it progresses..not because of the nonsense being spewed..but due to those TYPE OF PEOPLE IT ATTRACTS..A pig wont eat crap if you dont feed it crap...but if you do..it will eat it all..and want more crap untill it reaches its fill. Agreeing with such foolish drivel is exactly that,,drivel. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 12:53:10 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 12:47:12 2011. I said that an IQ test measures what you know, then compares it to others in your age group. Of course outside knowledge is needed to take an IQ test, certain questions on an IQ test are expected to be answered by the test taker based on the existing knowledge of a typical person that age. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 12:54:04 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 12:50:11 2011. So what you are saying is that you got some big strong brothers who got bread to make bigger stonger brothers correct?Where does it say they wasn't intelligent? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 12:56:24 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 12:50:16 2011. Webster's Online Dictionary. I actually looked up IQ before I made my post explaining what IQ is to make sure. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 12:56:43 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 5 04:49:49 2011. While I don't agree with your assessment that "Whites are more intelligent than Blacks,No one questions that at this point, and that's abundantly clear that it is, on average, true. What has been disputed is if this has genetic roots, and that's only because certain people can't bring themselves to accept that possibility, despite evidence that strongly indicates that it does. That intelligent people reproduce much less than unintelligent people, at least in current times. Responsible, intelligent people have less kids, as they are responsible in what they can afford to have, etc. But that goes for intelligent whites AND intelligent blacks. Unintelligent whites as well as unintelligent blacks reproduce more, thus their gene pool becomes more prevalent over time. Yes, this is a "dysgenic" trend that unfortunately bringing down the average intelligence of the population, and this is true the world over (and explains why most First World countries have static to shrinking populations). To combat this, somehow bright people need to be encouraged to reproduce more, and duller people to breed less. Not sure how you would do that though. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 12:59:48 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 5 06:39:22 2011. Yes. Kids are such an investment these days, especially bright kids who demand more resources, that a lot of people put off or avoid having them altogether. This can only serve to bring down the IQ of the population as a whole with time, unless incentives were set up to slow or reverse that trend. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 13:01:47 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 12:54:04 2011. hes perpetuating his bullshit by posting more so call proof..he can post all the crap you want from like minded people till the cows come home..does make him any more RIGHT than it did before..it just means he has to work HARDER to get more idiots to believe him.. HE AND PEOPLE LIKE HIM ARE DEVILS...WORKING OVERTIME TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN SINK THEIR HOOKS INTO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 13:03:43 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 5 06:56:33 2011. Either statement would be valid. I didn't claim that a majority of doctors are Jews or that a majority of Jews become doctors. But Jews are certainly overrepresented among doctors, and among professions Jews chose doctors are overrepresented vis a vis those chosen by other races (two distinct statements statistically). |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 13:06:44 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 12:53:10 2011. I said that an IQ test measures what you know, then compares it to others in your age group. Of course outside knowledge is needed to take an IQ test, certain questions on an IQ test are expected to be answered by the test taker based on the existing knowledge of a typical person that age.That is a flawed IQ test, unless it's the sort of knowledge that EVERY taker of the test is expected to know, like the ability to read. In which case there's no comparison of that knowledge. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 13:07:43 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 08:42:01 2011. All im saying is i dont agree with your Views One bit, But i do respect the fact that you will speak them and stand by them.Still speaking ones mind and staying what you feel beats playing word/mind games and trying to hide what you feel. I can appreciate that and respect that. Thanks. :) It looks like that from what im seeing, still people dont have to agree with them or even like them as you said. This is so true. Reminds me of that horse to water comment. All I can do is present the facts. It's up to reader whether or not to accept them (with the proper scrutiny I'm sure). |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 13:08:13 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 12:56:24 2011. I looked up IQ when you mentioned a dictionary, and it calls it a measure of reasoning ability, not knowledge. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 13:08:46 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 13:01:47 2011. Im very well aware of things went down back in slavery time(Our Holocaust).My Dad took me on quiet a few fact finding trips to places the Man was a wealth of Knowledge. I can never forget that. Im just surprised to see Chris Rock to be used as a point though.. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 5 13:11:46 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 12:34:09 2011. I'm not sure what I posted to deserve such an attack. Which of my posts are you talking about? |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 13:12:08 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 09:07:54 2011. White people do have larger brains than blacks, on average. Also, twin and adoption studies have shown that home background (between different homes in the developed world, at least) has little to no effect on IQ, especially g. Smart children do tend to have smart parents, but that is entirely due to heredity. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 13:13:27 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 13:01:47 2011. Still reagrdless Edwards hes speaking what he feels is right and standing by it..I might not like it but i can respect it. Now the one(s) who just want to hump and add nothing to the discussion thats another matter.. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 13:14:52 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 13:01:47 2011. IT DOESNT MAKE HIM ANY MORE CORRECT THAN WHEN HE STARTED THIS FOOLISHNESS..USING CHRIS ROCK TO PUSH HIS BULLSHIT IS EVEN MORE INSULTING..BUT I CAN SEE THAT EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTS.. US TO ACCEPT THIS GARBAGE AS FACT BECAUSE SOMEONE SAID IT WAS.. FUCK THAT. I CAN ACCEPT..AND EVEN CHALLEGE IN A DEBATE..SOUND TRUTH.. BUT THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE...? BULLSHIT! |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 13:16:45 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 13:06:44 2011. No it's not, every IQ test expects you to know something. How can it measure mental ability if you don't have any? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 13:18:59 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 13:16:45 2011. I meant to add if you don't have a way to coney your mental ability. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 13:20:36 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 13:16:45 2011. As I said, any outside knowledge must be universal to the group being tested, such as the ability to read or count. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 13:21:29 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 09:29:44 2011. Not stuff that I posted in this thread but I certainly have posted it on this forum before. No worries, here it is again:http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=747287 I also have papers written by Arthur Jensen and J. Philippe Rushton that details the body of evidence for race differences in intelligence, and the heritability of such. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 13:23:17 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 13:13:27 2011. I UNDERSTAND if he speaking what he feels is right..that doesnt excuse him from being an asshole! THAT just makes him a SMARTASS...SPREADING SHIT ALL OVER THE PLACE. You see how it effected even some of the so called respected members here...[never will look at those bastards the same way ever].. I CAN'T nor wont respect someone who is either a SELF HATER..or a confused egoist..either way..hes got issues that needs to be addressed. maybe some couch time with a nilist[c'mon,why not someone like that,he'd ID with em great!]? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 13:23:38 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 13:08:13 2011. What does ability have to do with capacity, which is what I was originally talking about? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 13:24:35 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 13:14:52 2011. Edwards you are livid i can totally understand why. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 13:25:50 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 13:12:08 2011. White people do have larger brains than blacks, on average.Help me out here where did you get this from? Im about to leave for work so i wont be able to see it until tonight. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 13:26:03 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 5 09:46:10 2011. It's a BELL CURVE people. There are people at all levels of intelligence in all races (mostly), every race has smart people and every race has dumb people (no disrespect to TS), it's just that there are not equal amounts in each group. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 13:27:56 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 5 09:52:40 2011. OK, so why don't YOU TELL ME exactly what's wrong with them? Doesn't that sound like a good idea? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 13:30:11 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 13:25:50 2011. Seriously, and what is the corrlation between mental ability and brain size? |
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